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digitalmars.D.announce - The Windows API translation project has gone quiet

reply Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
Once upon a time, this collaborative project to translate the Windows 
API headers into D was quite active.

http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?WindowsAPI

I think it had four or five contributors at one point.  But over the 
last month or three, there have only been minor updates.

Of course, the core stuff has been translated, though not all polished. 
  And I've just taken a few more modules.  I think it's time for 
contributors, both new and old, to bring the project to life again.

Please read the translation instructions.  The readme.txt file is 
probably rather out of date with the wiki page, but I hope to get this 
fixed soon.


While at it, there are a number of open discussions on the wiki page 
awaiting your feedback.  In particular, I consider the following 
discussions to be open:

- winsock/winsock2 - in particular, which should be imported by default
- meanings of the statuses - Don has come up with a decent system, does 
everyone agree that we should implement it?
- what to do with variable-length structs


I've noticed that two files have mysteriously appeared in the Dsource 
repository, both added by rko:

http://www.dsource.org/projects/bindings/browser/trunk/win32/format
http://www.dsource.org/projects/bindings/browser/trunk/win32/README.txt

The latter is not to be confused with readme.txt.  Does anybody know how 
these got in here?

Stewart.

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Sep 01 2006
next sibling parent reply Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:
Stewart Gordon wrote:

 Once upon a time, this collaborative project to translate the Windows 
 API headers into D was quite active.
 
 http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?WindowsAPI
 
 I think it had four or five contributors at one point.  But over the 
 last month or three, there have only been minor updates.
 
 Of course, the core stuff has been translated, though not all polished. 
  And I've just taken a few more modules.  I think it's time for 
 contributors, both new and old, to bring the project to life again.


That would be great.  If it helps, I would commit to having Ares using 
these libraries in future releases.


 I've noticed that two files have mysteriously appeared in the Dsource 
 repository, both added by rko:
 
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/bindings/browser/trunk/win32/format
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/bindings/browser/trunk/win32/README.txt
 
 The latter is not to be confused with readme.txt.  Does anybody know how 
 these got in here?


They look like accidental check-ins.  I say delete them :-p


Sean
Sep 01 2006
next sibling parent Justin C Calvarese <technocrat7 gmail.com> writes:
Sean Kelly wrote:

 I've noticed that two files have mysteriously appeared in the Dsource 
 repository, both added by rko:

 http://www.dsource.org/projects/bindings/browser/trunk/win32/format
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/bindings/browser/trunk/win32/README.txt

 The latter is not to be confused with readme.txt.  Does anybody know 
 how these got in here?


 
 They look like accidental check-ins.  I say delete them :-p


Yeah, it looks like an accident to me.

A bunch of random stuff seemed to be checked in for changeset 149:
http://www.dsource.org/projects/bindings/changeset/149

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jcc7
Sep 02 2006
prev sibling parent Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
Sean Kelly wrote:

 Stewart Gordon wrote:

 Once upon a time, this collaborative project to translate the Windows 
 API headers into D was quite active.

 http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?WindowsAPI

 I think it had four or five contributors at one point.  But over the 
 last month or three, there have only been minor updates.

 Of course, the core stuff has been translated, though not all 
 polished.  And I've just taken a few more modules.  I think it's time 
 for contributors, both new and old, to bring the project to life again.


 
 That would be great.  If it helps, I would commit to having Ares using 
 these libraries in future releases.


Indeed.  And I would like to make SDWF use this translation sometime. 
Not sure whether to wait until it becomes part of Phobos.  Once that's 
done, maybe I'll make a start on making SDWF support Unicode.


 I've noticed that two files have mysteriously appeared in the Dsource 
 repository, both added by rko:

 http://www.dsource.org/projects/bindings/browser/trunk/win32/format
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/bindings/browser/trunk/win32/README.txt

 The latter is not to be confused with readme.txt.  Does anybody know 
 how these got in here?


 
 They look like accidental check-ins.  I say delete them :-p


And I noticed a bit later that that changeset included a number of weird 
folders as well.

Stewart.

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Sep 02 2006
prev sibling parent reply Serg Kovrov <kovrov no.spam> writes:
Speaking of translation... I wonder what purpose of fixed arrays of 1 
element? Such as BYTE[1] (vs just BYTE).

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serg.
Dec 03 2006
parent Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
Serg Kovrov wrote:

 Speaking of translation... I wonder what purpose of fixed arrays of 1 
 element? Such as BYTE[1] (vs just BYTE).


They're a kludge to have a structure immediately followed by an array in 
memory.  The idea is that you allocate enough memory to contain the 
struct plus the array members beyond the first, and then access the 
array through the BYTE[1] member.

Because D has array bounds checking, which screws up this idea, the 
practice has been to translate these by naming the one-element array 
itself with a leading underscore and then defining a getter to turn this 
into a pointer.  There's been a bit of a debate about which approach to 
use - see the more recent thread "Getting back into translating the 
Win32 headers - anyone?"

Stewart.
Dec 04 2006