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digitalmars.D.announce - D has low down to number 21!

reply "Boris Wang" <nano.kago hotmail.com> writes:
http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm.
Jul 04 2006
parent reply Jeremy <Jeremy_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <e8d4fs$150p$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Boris Wang says...

http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm.


I know! :( However, I think "Ruby" and those other languages popping up in the
list are advertised more (e.g. tutorials showing on Slashdot, digg)... D just
isn't "in your face" like many other languages :-\
Jul 05 2006
next sibling parent reply Lucas Goss <lgoss007 gmail.com> writes:
Jeremy wrote:

 In article <e8d4fs$150p$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Boris Wang says...

 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm.


 I know! :( However, I think "Ruby" and those other languages popping up in the
 list are advertised more (e.g. tutorials showing on Slashdot, digg)... D just
 isn't "in your face" like many other languages :-\
 


I think it's because D is still smoothing out some rough edges, as in 
const, private import, raii and auto, etc. Once the rough edges are more 
well defined (and hopefully more intuitive), the language will be more 
concrete which should open up the doors for more development. I just 
hope the "rough edges" aren't left in because it's "too late" to change.

Lucas
Jul 05 2006
parent reply John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
Lucas Goss wrote:

 Jeremy wrote:

 In article <e8d4fs$150p$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Boris Wang says...

 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm.


 I know! :( However, I think "Ruby" and those other languages popping 
 up in the
 list are advertised more (e.g. tutorials showing on Slashdot, digg)... 
 D just
 isn't "in your face" like many other languages :-\


 
 I think it's because D is still smoothing out some rough edges, as in 
 const, private import, raii and auto, etc. Once the rough edges are more 
 well defined (and hopefully more intuitive), the language will be more 
 concrete which should open up the doors for more development. I just 
 hope the "rough edges" aren't left in because it's "too late" to change.
 
 Lucas



Um... maybe tiobe.com shouldn't be taken too seriously in the first place?

If we base D's popularity by tiobe, we are in for a roller coaster ride 
of emotions.  It appears to be a rather meaningless measurement of 
language use and an easily manipulated one at that.  Some people have 
already shown some examples of how to increase a language's standing in 
the list (as previous posts have mentioned?)

I suggest we ignore it almost completely rather than watch it with 
superstition. :)

-JJR
Jul 05 2006
parent reply Jeremy <Jeremy_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <e8h2k3$3a1$1 digitaldaemon.com>, John Reimer says...

Lucas Goss wrote:

 Jeremy wrote:

 In article <e8d4fs$150p$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Boris Wang says...

 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm.


 I know! :( However, I think "Ruby" and those other languages popping 
 up in the
 list are advertised more (e.g. tutorials showing on Slashdot, digg)... 
 D just
 isn't "in your face" like many other languages :-\


 
 I think it's because D is still smoothing out some rough edges, as in 
 const, private import, raii and auto, etc. Once the rough edges are more 
 well defined (and hopefully more intuitive), the language will be more 
 concrete which should open up the doors for more development. I just 
 hope the "rough edges" aren't left in because it's "too late" to change.
 
 Lucas



Um... maybe tiobe.com shouldn't be taken too seriously in the first place?

If we base D's popularity by tiobe, we are in for a roller coaster ride 
of emotions.  It appears to be a rather meaningless measurement of 
language use and an easily manipulated one at that.  Some people have 
already shown some examples of how to increase a language's standing in 
the list (as previous posts have mentioned?)

I suggest we ignore it almost completely rather than watch it with 
superstition. :)

-JJR


Heh.. ignore it when the numbers are low, celebrate when it is high!

Say what you want about 'the list,' but I'm sure things would be better (more
supporters etc.) if we were ranking higher.
Jul 05 2006
next sibling parent reply "Andrei Khropov" <andkhropov nospam_mtu-net.ru> writes:
 Jeremy wrote:

 
 Say what you want about 'the list,' but I'm sure things would be better (more
 supporters etc.) if we were ranking higher.


I think things would be better if we had better libraries and some success
stories.


--
Jul 05 2006
parent Jeremy <Jeremy_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <e8h7cv$7bh$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Andrei Khropov says...

 Jeremy wrote:

 
 Say what you want about 'the list,' but I'm sure things would be better (more
 supporters etc.) if we were ranking higher.


I think things would be better if we had better libraries and some success
stories.


Of course; there are quite a few things that would make things better. 'The
list' is rough measurement of how good things are going for a particular
language. If we had better libraries and success stories, we might move up on
the list :) I'm working on FreeUniverse (dsource) -- hopefully I'll have a
success story to add :)
Jul 05 2006
prev sibling parent reply John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
Jeremy wrote:


 Um... maybe tiobe.com shouldn't be taken too seriously in the first place?

 If we base D's popularity by tiobe, we are in for a roller coaster ride 
 of emotions.  It appears to be a rather meaningless measurement of 
 language use and an easily manipulated one at that.  Some people have 
 already shown some examples of how to increase a language's standing in 
 the list (as previous posts have mentioned?)

 I suggest we ignore it almost completely rather than watch it with 
 superstition. :)

 -JJR


 
 Heh.. ignore it when the numbers are low, celebrate when it is high!
 



lol. :)



 Say what you want about 'the list,' but I'm sure things would be better (more
 supporters etc.) if we were ranking higher.
 
 



I have to disagree with that.  If tiobe.com is anything, it is more 
likely to be the effect rather than the cause. But no matter. :)
Jul 05 2006
parent Jeremy <Jeremy_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <e8h8oq$88d$1 digitaldaemon.com>, John Reimer says...

Jeremy wrote:


 Um... maybe tiobe.com shouldn't be taken too seriously in the first place?

 If we base D's popularity by tiobe, we are in for a roller coaster ride 
 of emotions.  It appears to be a rather meaningless measurement of 
 language use and an easily manipulated one at that.  Some people have 
 already shown some examples of how to increase a language's standing in 
 the list (as previous posts have mentioned?)

 I suggest we ignore it almost completely rather than watch it with 
 superstition. :)

 -JJR


 
 Heh.. ignore it when the numbers are low, celebrate when it is high!
 



lol. :)



 Say what you want about 'the list,' but I'm sure things would be better (more
 supporters etc.) if we were ranking higher.
 
 



I have to disagree with that.  If tiobe.com is anything, it is more 
likely to be the effect rather than the cause. But no matter. :)


I agree it is not a cause, but an effect. I don't think I made that very clear
in that line, but I wanted to say the two are related (e.g. more supporters =>
higher ranking)
Jul 05 2006
prev sibling parent Stjepan Zlodi <stjepan remove.gmail.com> writes:
Jeremy <Jeremy_member pathlink.com> wrote in
news:e8ghfk$366$1 digitaldaemon.com: 


 
 I know! :( However, I think "Ruby" and those other languages popping
 up in the list are advertised more (e.g. tutorials showing on
 Slashdot, digg)... D just isn't "in your face" like many other
 languages :-\ 
 


Secret of Ruby's success is just one framework (Ruby On Rails). D need just 
one killer app. ;-)


-- 
http://wolfwoodscrowd.info
Jul 06 2006