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reply Neto <business.mongol2525 gmail.com> writes:
Hey guys, I'm posting this here because I plan to do some tools 
for D. Is this the proper sub? Could you guys help giving me some 
information about your thoughts about IDEs, compilers, IA and 
software development tools in general? any feedback is welcome, 
including questions that you think would be useful to include in 
the survey.
Thank for your time!

survey link:

https://bitly.com/developersDevelopersDevelopers
Sep 22 2020
next sibling parent reply Imperatorn <johan_forsberg_86 hotmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 03:56:40 UTC, Neto wrote:

 Hey guys, I'm posting this here because I plan to do some tools 
 for D. Is this the proper sub? Could you guys help giving me 
 some information about your thoughts about IDEs, compilers, IA 
 and software development tools in general? any feedback is 
 welcome, including questions that you think would be useful to 
 include in the survey.
 Thank for your time!

 survey link:

 https://bitly.com/developersDevelopersDevelopers


Does it take ~24 minutes to complete? 🤔

Make it 5 mins and you will get more people responding 🙄
Sep 23 2020
parent Neto <business.mongol2525 gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 08:37:29 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 03:56:40 UTC, Neto wrote:

 Hey guys, I'm posting this here because I plan to do some 
 tools for D. Is this the proper sub? Could you guys help 
 giving me some information about your thoughts about IDEs, 
 compilers, IA and software development tools in general? any 
 feedback is welcome, including questions that you think would 
 be useful to include in the survey.
 Thank for your time!

 survey link:

 https://bitly.com/developersDevelopersDevelopers


 Does it take ~24 minutes to complete? 🤔


I didn't find to be accurate, I was considering remove this


 Make it 5 mins and you will get more people responding 🙄


Yeah I did reduce this alot, I was going to cross some data but 
it seems will not be possible with this survey.
Sep 24 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Patrick Schluter <Patrick.Schluter bbox.fr> writes:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 03:56:40 UTC, Neto wrote:

 Hey guys, I'm posting this here because I plan to do some tools 
 for D. Is this the proper sub? Could you guys help giving me 
 some information about your thoughts about IDEs, compilers, IA 
 and software development tools in general? any feedback is 
 welcome, including questions that you think would be useful to 
 include in the survey.
 Thank for your time!

 survey link:

 https://bitly.com/developersDevelopersDevelopers


I don't see how the questions in the first page are relevant to D 
tools and IDE. Most of them are none of your business. That 
survey looks more like a trojan horse to collect sensible data 
than a real survey.
Sep 23 2020
next sibling parent bachmeier <no spam.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 12:39:24 UTC, Patrick Schluter 
wrote:

 On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 03:56:40 UTC, Neto wrote:

 Hey guys, I'm posting this here because I plan to do some 
 tools for D. Is this the proper sub? Could you guys help 
 giving me some information about your thoughts about IDEs, 
 compilers, IA and software development tools in general? any 
 feedback is welcome, including questions that you think would 
 be useful to include in the survey.
 Thank for your time!

 survey link:

 https://bitly.com/developersDevelopersDevelopers


 I don't see how the questions in the first page are relevant to 
 D tools and IDE. Most of them are none of your business. That 
 survey looks more like a trojan horse to collect sensible data 
 than a real survey.


I just clicked on it and was going to make the same comment. 
(Actually, I was going to comment that they forgot to ask for my 
credit card information.) If it was so easy to get that type of 
information from people, Facebook wouldn't exist. They're going 
to have to create the IDE first, give it away for free, and then 
steal the information silently like everyone else.
Sep 23 2020
prev sibling parent Neto <business.mongol2525 gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 12:39:24 UTC, Patrick Schluter 
wrote:

 On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 03:56:40 UTC, Neto wrote:

 Hey guys, I'm posting this here because I plan to do some 
 tools for D. Is this the proper sub? Could you guys help 
 giving me some information about your thoughts about IDEs, 
 compilers, IA and software development tools in general? any 
 feedback is welcome, including questions that you think would 
 be useful to include in the survey.
 Thank for your time!

 survey link:

 https://bitly.com/developersDevelopersDevelopers


 I don't see how the questions in the first page are relevant to 
 D tools and IDE. Most of them are none of your business. That 
 survey looks more like a trojan horse to collect sensible data 
 than a real survey.


Alright, initially I tried cross alot of data but I didn't 
realize most people would refuse to give their name, company's 
name etc. I removed all those. The first questions weren't as I 
tried to collect some data about the developer's profile but it's 
hard to get than I thought, I'll not do that. I'll ask just some 
IDE related questions. It was initially all interconnected but 
yeah the survey get lengthy.
Sep 24 2020
prev sibling parent reply Ruby The Roobster <michaeleverestc79 gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 03:56:40 UTC, Neto wrote:

 Hey guys, I'm posting this here because I plan to do some tools 
 for D. Is this the proper sub? Could you guys help giving me 
 some information about your thoughts about IDEs, compilers, IA 
 and software development tools in general? any feedback is 
 welcome, including questions that you think would be useful to 
 include in the survey.
 Thank for your time!

 survey link:

 https://bitly.com/developersDevelopersDevelopers


Ok. I was going to do this but then once I saw that 90% of it was 
asking for information(alot doesn't even apply to me) I just 
closed the page.  Maybe if you remake the form by deleting all 
that you can get peoples opinion. I don't think any of us is 
going to give away that information. Especially the people who 
didn't use their real name in their account.
Sep 23 2020
next sibling parent reply Ruby The Roobster <michaeleverestc79 gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 13:22:08 UTC, Ruby The 
Roobster wrote:

 On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 03:56:40 UTC, Neto wrote:

[...]





I don't think any of us
 is going to give away that information. Especially the people 
 who didn't use their real name in their account.


Just realized that you probably aren't using your real name so 
why are you asking for ours then?
Sep 23 2020
parent Neto <business.mongol2525 gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 13:24:32 UTC, Ruby The 
Roobster wrote:

 On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 13:22:08 UTC, Ruby The 
 Roobster wrote:

 On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 03:56:40 UTC, Neto wrote:

[...]





I don't think any of us
 is going to give away that information. Especially the people 
 who didn't use their real name in their account.


 Just realized that you probably aren't using your real name so 
 why are you asking for ours then?


That's my last name also used as nickname in my country. I do 
usually put my name and email on this kind of survey but I didn't 
realize most people wouldn't do the same. I related those
Sep 24 2020
prev sibling parent reply Neto <business.mongol2525 gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 13:22:08 UTC, Ruby The 
Roobster wrote:

 On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 03:56:40 UTC, Neto wrote:

 [...]


 Ok. I was going to do this but then once I saw that 90% of it 
 was asking for information(alot doesn't even apply to me) I 
 just closed the page.  Maybe if you remake the form by deleting 
 all that you can get peoples opinion. I don't think any of us 
 is going to give away that information. Especially the people 
 who didn't use their real name in their account.


I deleted all the personal questions, IA and blockchain-based
Sep 24 2020
parent reply Ruby The Roobster <michaeleverestc79 gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 24 September 2020 at 14:59:00 UTC, Neto wrote:

 I deleted all the personal questions, IA and blockchain-based


It still asks where we are from. It also asks about our job. So, 
this means it's probably some sort of targeted ads survey.
Sep 24 2020
parent Neto <business.mongol2525 gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 24 September 2020 at 15:03:37 UTC, Ruby The Roobster 
wrote:

 On Thursday, 24 September 2020 at 14:59:00 UTC, Neto wrote:

 I deleted all the personal questions, IA and blockchain-based


 It still asks where we are from. It also asks about our job. 
 So, this means it's probably some sort of targeted ads survey.


No it isn't for target ads. I dislike companies like Facebook, 
Google, seeling user's data. Would you like some disclaimer about 
not using those data for target ads? It's to see developer's 
strugles and needs and relate things. So we can visualize things 
like "developers in the X-Y range company size are working on a 
10 years old code base (that's why there's a backward compability 
section) written in C++ and can't migrate to D because the tool Z 
only works for C++" or "I'm stuck using this old code editor 
because the up-to-date version doesn't support that old code 
base". So we have a direction of what could be done.
Sep 24 2020