digitalmars.D - Why is there still a web archive for the newsgroup?
- Joakim (18/18) May 23 2014 I was just googling for some info and I ran across the old web
- w0rp (7/7) May 23 2014 I wonder what effect this has on PageRank. I have been told that
- H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d (21/28) May 23 2014 Which is the whole point of putting stuff online in the first place. :-P
- Chris (3/51) May 23 2014 And the address of that hobby website would be ...?
- H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d (16/40) May 23 2014 http://eusebeia.dyndns.org/4d
- Chris (5/65) May 23 2014 duckduckgo.com:
I was just googling for some info and I ran across the old web archive: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/radical_ideas_about_GC_and_ARC_need_to_be_time_driven_231949.html Why is this web archive being kept around? It means that there are three different places where any particular newsgroup message is archived, the web forums, http://forum.dlang.org/thread/lkltve$2u2t$1 digitalmars.com the web archive created by the mailing list, http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/digitalmars-d/2014-May/197973.html and the old web archive, with its horribly outdated look and incorrect formatting of messages. All three show up in google results for D-related topics, likely confusing users about where to access the newsgroup. If nothing else, perhaps crawlers should be told not to index those domains, if you still want to keep the webpages around for whatever reason, so that only forum.dlang.org shows up on google. I think the old web archive should be taken down, as I doubt anybody uses it.
May 23 2014
I wonder what effect this has on PageRank. I have been told that Google can identify a site as an originator of content some times, and could reduce the rank of another site based on that, something like that. Then again, all SEO is basically nonsense, due to nobody truly understanding Google and the inevitable nature of Google growing too complex for anyone to be able to take any action that isn't just "show good content, format well."
May 23 2014
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:35:18AM +0000, w0rp via Digitalmars-d wrote:I wonder what effect this has on PageRank. I have been told that Google can identify a site as an originator of content some times, and could reduce the rank of another site based on that, something like that. Then again, all SEO is basically nonsense, due to nobody truly understanding Google and the inevitable nature of Google growing too complex for anyone to be able to take any action that isn't just "show good content, format well."Which is the whole point of putting stuff online in the first place. :-P I've always been skeptical of SEO. Google is known to implement changes to their ranking algorithm specifically to counter artificially inflated PageRank's. Why spend the time and energy pulling all those stunts, that could be better spent producing *good content* instead??! IME, if you have good, regularly updated content, eventually Google will find you, and once it finds you, you'll have a solid PageRank way up near the top, and you won't easily fall back down (unlike if you invested in questionable SEO tactics that gets targeted by the next algorithm upgrade, then suddenly your precious PageRank evaporates overnight). This happened to my personal hobby website: I did absolutely no SEO whatsoever, and for the first few years I was nowhere to be found on Google (unsurprisingly). But I kept up with the solid content, and eventually Google found me. Then others found me through Google, and started linking to me, and up I went in rank. Today my website is way up there with related Wikipedia entries and other high-ranking sites. Total amount of SEO effort: zero. Draw your own conclusions. T -- Leather is waterproof. Ever see a cow with an umbrella?
May 23 2014
On Friday, 23 May 2014 at 14:12:38 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:35:18AM +0000, w0rp via Digitalmars-d wrote:And the address of that hobby website would be ...?I wonder what effect this has on PageRank. I have been told that Google can identify a site as an originator of content some times, and could reduce the rank of another site based on that, something like that. Then again, all SEO is basically nonsense, due to nobody truly understanding Google and the inevitable nature of Google growing too complex for anyone to be able to take any action that isn't just "show good content, format well."Which is the whole point of putting stuff online in the first place. :-P I've always been skeptical of SEO. Google is known to implement changes to their ranking algorithm specifically to counter artificially inflated PageRank's. Why spend the time and energy pulling all those stunts, that could be better spent producing *good content* instead??! IME, if you have good, regularly updated content, eventually Google will find you, and once it finds you, you'll have a solid PageRank way up near the top, and you won't easily fall back down (unlike if you invested in questionable SEO tactics that gets targeted by the next algorithm upgrade, then suddenly your precious PageRank evaporates overnight). This happened to my personal hobby website: I did absolutely no SEO whatsoever, and for the first few years I was nowhere to be found on Google (unsurprisingly). But I kept up with the solid content, and eventually Google found me. Then others found me through Google, and started linking to me, and up I went in rank. Today my website is way up there with related Wikipedia entries and other high-ranking sites. Total amount of SEO effort: zero. Draw your own conclusions. T
May 23 2014
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 02:30:56PM +0000, Chris via Digitalmars-d wrote:On Friday, 23 May 2014 at 14:12:38 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:[...]http://eusebeia.dyndns.org/4d If you search for "4D space" or "4D Euclidean space" it comes out on the 4th result in the first page. Other related search terms vary in rank, but a good number of 4D-related keywords have my website on the first page, for example "16-cell", "24-cell", etc., which appear right below the corresponding Wikipedia and Wolfram Mathworld pages. If you search for "bilunabirotunda" (admittedly, that's a very rare search term :P), my website outranks Wolfram Mathworld. :P The page ranks do vary quite a bit depending on the exact search term, but remember, I did absolutely *zero* SEO here -- not even to organize my pages in ways recommended by most SEO experts. T -- Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous? -- Hobbes, from Calvin & HobbesI've always been skeptical of SEO. Google is known to implement changes to their ranking algorithm specifically to counter artificially inflated PageRank's. Why spend the time and energy pulling all those stunts, that could be better spent producing *good content* instead??! IME, if you have good, regularly updated content, eventually Google will find you, and once it finds you, you'll have a solid PageRank way up near the top, and you won't easily fall back down (unlike if you invested in questionable SEO tactics that gets targeted by the next algorithm upgrade, then suddenly your precious PageRank evaporates overnight). This happened to my personal hobby website: I did absolutely no SEO whatsoever, and for the first few years I was nowhere to be found on Google (unsurprisingly). But I kept up with the solid content, and eventually Google found me. Then others found me through Google, and started linking to me, and up I went in rank. Today my website is way up there with related Wikipedia entries and other high-ranking sites. Total amount of SEO effort: zero. Draw your own conclusions. TAnd the address of that hobby website would be ...?
May 23 2014
On Friday, 23 May 2014 at 15:12:06 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 02:30:56PM +0000, Chris via Digitalmars-d wrote:duckduckgo.com: 4D Euclidean space = 2nd result 4D space = 3rd result (not counting the sponsored link)On Friday, 23 May 2014 at 14:12:38 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:[...]http://eusebeia.dyndns.org/4d If you search for "4D space" or "4D Euclidean space" it comes out on the 4th result in the first page. Other related search terms vary in rank, but a good number of 4D-related keywords have my website on the first page, for example "16-cell", "24-cell", etc., which appear right below the corresponding Wikipedia and Wolfram Mathworld pages. If you search for "bilunabirotunda" (admittedly, that's a very rare search term :P), my website outranks Wolfram Mathworld. :P The page ranks do vary quite a bit depending on the exact search term, but remember, I did absolutely *zero* SEO here -- not even to organize my pages in ways recommended by most SEO experts. TI've always been skeptical of SEO. Google is known to implement changes to their ranking algorithm specifically to counter artificially inflated PageRank's. Why spend the time and energy pulling all those stunts, that could be better spent producing *good content* instead??! IME, if you have good, regularly updated content, eventually Google will find you, and once it finds you, you'll have a solid PageRank way up near the top, and you won't easily fall back down (unlike if you invested in questionable SEO tactics that gets targeted by the next algorithm upgrade, then suddenly your precious PageRank evaporates overnight). This happened to my personal hobby website: I did absolutely no SEO whatsoever, and for the first few years I was nowhere to be found on Google (unsurprisingly). But I kept up with the solid content, and eventually Google found me. Then others found me through Google, and started linking to me, and up I went in rank. Today my website is way up there with related Wikipedia entries and other high-ranking sites. Total amount of SEO effort: zero. Draw your own conclusions. TAnd the address of that hobby website would be ...?
May 23 2014