digitalmars.D - What is the most stable D compiler
- eugene (3/3) Sep 14 2016 What is the most reliable D compiler: dmd, ldc, gdc?
- rikki cattermole (2/5) Sep 14 2016 What exactly do you define as stable?
- eugene (3/8) Sep 14 2016 i mean without bugs in compiler
- rikki cattermole (12/20) Sep 14 2016 Okay well all three compilers share a frontend with all new work being
- eugene (3/3) Sep 14 2016 yes, speed is a second matter, so the first matter is
- Jacob Carlborg (6/9) Sep 14 2016 I would say 42 minutes for LDC is good enough :) [1]
- eugene (3/12) Sep 15 2016 so, ldc is also not stable as dmd?
- Klmp (6/7) Sep 14 2016 because it's slightly before DMD the answer is: LDC.
- eugene (3/10) Sep 14 2016 did you use ldc in production?
- Johan Engelen (4/15) Sep 14 2016 LDC (exclusively afaik) is used by Weka.io (http://www.weka.io).
- Guillaume Piolat (7/18) Sep 14 2016 Yes. I only ever send builds made with LDC to customers, both for
- Klmp (5/12) Sep 14 2016 I meant slightly "behind", "before" is not appropriated. i
What is the most reliable D compiler: dmd, ldc, gdc? Which can be used in production? Why there are 3(maybe more) compilers and not just one?
Sep 14 2016
On 14/09/2016 11:34 PM, eugene wrote:What is the most reliable D compiler: dmd, ldc, gdc? Which can be used in production? Why there are 3(maybe more) compilers and not just one?What exactly do you define as stable?
Sep 14 2016
On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:35:46 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:On 14/09/2016 11:34 PM, eugene wrote:i mean without bugs in compilerWhat is the most reliable D compiler: dmd, ldc, gdc? Which can be used in production? Why there are 3(maybe more) compilers and not just one?What exactly do you define as stable?
Sep 14 2016
On 14/09/2016 11:37 PM, eugene wrote:On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:35:46 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:Okay well all three compilers share a frontend with all new work being done in dmd. GDC is the slowest to update currently so that can be ignored for now. LDC has fairly fast updates in terms of the frontend and can target more platforms. So the question is simply, do you care about performance or platform availability over faster bug fixes and new features? Most people develop using dmd because of the fast turn around times, but utilize ldc IF they need performance in the end program. But in most cases you don't need to worry about performance or platform support so dmd wins out.On 14/09/2016 11:34 PM, eugene wrote:i mean without bugs in compilerWhat is the most reliable D compiler: dmd, ldc, gdc? Which can be used in production? Why there are 3(maybe more) compilers and not just one?What exactly do you define as stable?
Sep 14 2016
eugene <egordeev18 gmail.com> yes, speed is a second matter, so the first matter is reliability, i.e.: the less bugs compiler has, the more it is stable, which of them is the most stable one?
Sep 14 2016
On 2016-09-14 13:42, rikki cattermole wrote:GDC is the slowest to update currently so that can be ignored for now. LDC has fairly fast updates in terms of the frontend and can target more platforms.I would say 42 minutes for LDC is good enough :) [1] [1] http://forum.dlang.org/post/b328372d-686e-9931-03ba-c2db13e0b2de yahoo.com -- /Jacob Carlborg
Sep 14 2016
On Thursday, 15 September 2016 at 06:26:40 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:On 2016-09-14 13:42, rikki cattermole wrote:so, ldc is also not stable as dmd?GDC is the slowest to update currently so that can be ignored for now. LDC has fairly fast updates in terms of the frontend and can target more platforms.I would say 42 minutes for LDC is good enough :) [1] [1] http://forum.dlang.org/post/b328372d-686e-9931-03ba-c2db13e0b2de yahoo.com
Sep 15 2016
On Thursday, 15 September 2016 at 13:02:29 UTC, eugene wrote:On Thursday, 15 September 2016 at 06:26:40 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:If stability is more important, I recommend to only update to x.y.2 or higher releases, just don't update to x.y.0 releases.On 2016-09-14 13:42, rikki cattermole wrote:so, ldc is also not stable as dmd?GDC is the slowest to update currently so that can be ignored for now. LDC has fairly fast updates in terms of the frontend and can target more platforms.I would say 42 minutes for LDC is good enough :) [1] [1] http://forum.dlang.org/post/b328372d-686e-9931-03ba-c2db13e0b2de yahoo.com
Sep 15 2016
On Thursday, 15 September 2016 at 13:14:16 UTC, Sai wrote:On Thursday, 15 September 2016 at 13:02:29 UTC, eugene wrote:yes, reliability is more important, could you, please, point out the link where i can read about versions?On Thursday, 15 September 2016 at 06:26:40 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:If stability is more important, I recommend to only update to x.y.2 or higher releases, just don't update to x.y.0 releases.On 2016-09-14 13:42, rikki cattermole wrote:so, ldc is also not stable as dmd?GDC is the slowest to update currently so that can be ignored for now. LDC has fairly fast updates in terms of the frontend and can target more platforms.I would say 42 minutes for LDC is good enough :) [1] [1] http://forum.dlang.org/post/b328372d-686e-9931-03ba-c2db13e0b2de yahoo.com
Sep 15 2016
Here is the changelog page: https://dlang.org/changelog/2.071.1.htmlIf stability is more important, I recommend to only update to x.y.2 or higher releases, just don't update to x.y.0 releases.yes, reliability is more important, could you, please, point out the link where i can read about versions?
Sep 15 2016
On Friday, 16 September 2016 at 02:39:07 UTC, Sai wrote:thank youHere is the changelog page: https://dlang.org/changelog/2.071.1.htmlIf stability is more important, I recommend to only update to x.y.2 or higher releases, just don't update to x.y.0 releases.yes, reliability is more important, could you, please, point out the link where i can read about versions?
Sep 16 2016
On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:34:22 UTC, eugene wrote:What is the most reliable D compiler: dmd, ldc, gdc?because it's slightly before DMD the answer is: LDC. GDC is too far behind DMD is at the front LDC has most of the DMD fixes but sometimes without the regressions coming from the front.
Sep 14 2016
On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:52:00 UTC, Klmp wrote:On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:34:22 UTC, eugene wrote:did you use ldc in production? do you use ldc in production?What is the most reliable D compiler: dmd, ldc, gdc?because it's slightly before DMD the answer is: LDC. GDC is too far behind DMD is at the front LDC has most of the DMD fixes but sometimes without the regressions coming from the front.
Sep 14 2016
On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 12:13:33 UTC, eugene wrote:On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:52:00 UTC, Klmp wrote:LDC (exclusively afaik) is used by Weka.io (http://www.weka.io). Pretty serious "production use". -JohanOn Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:34:22 UTC, eugene wrote:did you use ldc in production? do you use ldc in production?What is the most reliable D compiler: dmd, ldc, gdc?because it's slightly before DMD the answer is: LDC. GDC is too far behind DMD is at the front LDC has most of the DMD fixes but sometimes without the regressions coming from the front.
Sep 14 2016
On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 12:13:33 UTC, eugene wrote:On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:52:00 UTC, Klmp wrote:Yes. I only ever send builds made with LDC to customers, both for freelance work and products. Why? I've found that with DMD there is a bigger chance of backend regressions. Using LDC you get to rely on a pretty rock-solid code generator. I do use DMD for all dev builds.On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:34:22 UTC, eugene wrote:did you use ldc in production? do you use ldc in production?What is the most reliable D compiler: dmd, ldc, gdc?because it's slightly before DMD the answer is: LDC. GDC is too far behind DMD is at the front LDC has most of the DMD fixes but sometimes without the regressions coming from the front.
Sep 14 2016
On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:52:00 UTC, Klmp wrote:On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 at 11:34:22 UTC, eugene wrote:I meant slightly "behind", "before" is not appropriated. i understand the misunderstanding in the following comments. I meant that for LDC being just one step behind is an asset because there's always a risk of regression in DMD.What is the most reliable D compiler: dmd, ldc, gdc?because it's slightly before DMD the answer is: LDC.GDC is too far behind DMD is at the front LDC has most of the DMD fixes but sometimes without the regressions coming from the front.
Sep 14 2016