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digitalmars.D - Scala design process vs D

reply retard <re tard.com.invalid> writes:
I only now realized how disciplined and professional the Scala design 
process is vs amateur languages like D. Just look how clearly they are 
able to express the changes of a minor release update:

http://www.scala-lang.org/node/4587

They also have the concept of improvement documents (kind of like DIP):

http://www.scala-lang.org/sid/8

It's no wonder Scala is doing so well whilst it's still very young.
Feb 03 2010
next sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
retard wrote:

 Just look how clearly they are 
 able to express the changes of a minor release update:


You're more than welcome to come help out with the documentation. The 
stuff is all generated from templates. If you want to help improve the 
look of the docs, or the content, please join in.
Feb 03 2010
next sibling parent Justin Johansson <no spam.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 retard wrote:

 Just look how clearly they are able to express the changes of a minor 
 release update:


 
 You're more than welcome to come help out with the documentation. The 
 stuff is all generated from templates. If you want to help improve the 
 look of the docs, or the content, please join in.


Slightly off current thread topic, but nevertheless, feel
this is a good-as-any, and appropriate, opportunity to offer
the following thoughts about digitalmars D and its diverse
newsgroup community (and in no particular order)

1) there is no censorship
2) given there are virtually no electronic controls, the amount of XXX
spam is negligible, if any
3) Walter is the quintessential webbuddist (ack. usage of term by
another DNG poster)
4) Andrei has an opinion but you can easily shut him up with a
compelling argument
5) Don (have I the right person?) does lots of back-end work
like a Mother Theresa without any (apparent) expectation of reward
6) You can rely on Nick to always give a humorous reality check
on your sanity
7) Though known colloquially as 'bearophile', everybody really
knowing he is one Leonardo, this really cool dude presents D NG
readers with many CS complexity etc. topics for the practical
(and admittedly sometimes no so practical) evolution of D
8) The likes of superfan (or was that language fan or language dan?)
whilst sometimes behaving like uncivilized Devil's Advocates,
sometimes shine a torch in our direction, only often to drop it
by not offering to help out on the issues that they find inadequate.

Best wishes to all,

Justin Johansson
Feb 03 2010
prev sibling parent Trass3r <un known.com> writes:
 You're more than welcome to come help out with the documentation. The  
 stuff is all generated from templates.


Where are these files?
Feb 09 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent Leandro Lucarella <llucax gmail.com> writes:
retard, el  3 de febrero a las 08:40 me escribiste:

 I only now realized how disciplined and professional the Scala design 
 process is vs amateur languages like D. Just look how clearly they are 
 able to express the changes of a minor release update:
 
 http://www.scala-lang.org/node/4587
 
 They also have the concept of improvement documents (kind of like DIP):
 
 http://www.scala-lang.org/sid/8
 
 It's no wonder Scala is doing so well whilst it's still very young.


Every serious language (not designed by a committee) have a development
process similar to that (at least, Python, Ruby, Tcl/Tk). D is still very
far from that unfortunately. But it's moving forward, very slow though.
Sadly, I think it moves too slow to survive (or hit mainstream as those
other languages did).

-- 
Leandro Lucarella (AKA luca)                     http://llucax.com.ar/
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Feb 03 2010
prev sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
retard wrote:

 I only now realized how disciplined and professional the Scala design 
 process is vs amateur languages like D. Just look how clearly they are 
 able to express the changes of a minor release update:
 
 http://www.scala-lang.org/node/4587
 
 They also have the concept of improvement documents (kind of like DIP):
 
 http://www.scala-lang.org/sid/8
 
 It's no wonder Scala is doing so well whilst it's still very young.


Walter vs. Odersky is like Rocky vs. Drago: while Odersky is training in 
the most controlled conditions and with the best equipment, Walter is 
training most alone in the mountains, in the most primitive conditions 
(e.g. microemacs has no syntax coloring!) and with only one lousy companion.

(Walter from the mountaintop: Oderskyyyyyyyyy!...)


Andrei
Feb 03 2010
parent reply Bane <branimir.milosavljevic gmail.com> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:


 retard wrote:

 I only now realized how disciplined and professional the Scala design 
 process is vs amateur languages like D. Just look how clearly they are 
 able to express the changes of a minor release update:
 
 http://www.scala-lang.org/node/4587
 
 They also have the concept of improvement documents (kind of like DIP):
 
 http://www.scala-lang.org/sid/8
 
 It's no wonder Scala is doing so well whilst it's still very young.


 
 Walter vs. Odersky is like Rocky vs. Drago: while Odersky is training in 
 the most controlled conditions and with the best equipment, Walter is 
 training most alone in the mountains, in the most primitive conditions 
 (e.g. microemacs has no syntax coloring!) and with only one lousy companion.
 
 (Walter from the mountaintop: Oderskyyyyyyyyy!...)
 
 
 Andrei


As far as I know, C was always the preferred language of wild guns and gung ho
programmers (opposed of pascal and academic by the book bunch of coders). Guess
the legacy continued to C++/D. So Walther chops wood while Odersky write docs...
Feb 03 2010
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Bane wrote:

 So Walther chops wood while Odersky write docs...


I'm not much of a writer. That's why Andrei is writing TDPL, not me.
Feb 03 2010
parent Bane <branimir.milosavljevic gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright Wrote:


 Bane wrote:

 So Walther chops wood while Odersky write docs...


 
 I'm not much of a writer. That's why Andrei is writing TDPL, not me.


This reminds me of popular joke here where I live - 'Why do cops go in pairs?'
'Because first one knows how to read, and second how to write' :D
Feb 03 2010