• terranium <spam here.lot> May 07 2008
• "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> May 07 2008
• Robert Fraser <fraserofthenight gmail.com> May 07 2008
• Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> May 07 2008

terranium <spam here.lot> writes:

Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

 Python's semantically-meaningful indentation was intended to fix the problem 
 of poorly-indented code by enforcing proper indentation in the language and 
 compiler. But the problem is, it *doesn't* actually enforce it.


:-/ It's a hard task to keep code poorly formatted in MS Visual Studio, since a
code formatter is built into editor.

"Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:

"terranium" <spam here.lot> wrote in message 
news:fvsdet$231s$1 digitalmars.com...
 Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

 Python's semantically-meaningful indentation was intended to fix the 
 problem
 of poorly-indented code by enforcing proper indentation in the language 
 and
 compiler. But the problem is, it *doesn't* actually enforce it.


 :-/ It's a hard task to keep code poorly formatted in MS Visual Studio, 
 since a code formatter is built into editor.


Exactly. That's the second reason I disagree with Python's rationale for 
their indentation mechanism: Automatic code formatters already solve the 
issue without introducing hidden bugs. And, they're relatively easy to 
implement anyway, or at least compared to a full-blown compiler (especially 
if you write it in D ;-) ). 

Robert Fraser <fraserofthenight gmail.com> writes:

Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 "terranium" <spam here.lot> wrote in message 
 news:fvsdet$231s$1 digitalmars.com...
 Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

 Python's semantically-meaningful indentation was intended to fix the 
 problem
 of poorly-indented code by enforcing proper indentation in the language 
 and
 compiler. But the problem is, it *doesn't* actually enforce it.


 since a code formatter is built into editor.


 Exactly. That's the second reason I disagree with Python's rationale for 
 their indentation mechanism: Automatic code formatters already solve the 
 issue without introducing hidden bugs. And, they're relatively easy to 
 implement anyway, or at least compared to a full-blown compiler (especially 
 if you write it in D ;-) ). 


There is a D code formatter... it's written in Java, though. It has ~300 
options last time I touched it, but I think it'll get a couple more when 
I get around to updating it for D2.

Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> writes:

Robert Fraser escribió:
 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 "terranium" <spam here.lot> wrote in message 
 news:fvsdet$231s$1 digitalmars.com...
 Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

 Python's semantically-meaningful indentation was intended to fix the 
 problem
 of poorly-indented code by enforcing proper indentation in the 
 language and
 compiler. But the problem is, it *doesn't* actually enforce it.


 Studio, since a code formatter is built into editor.


 Exactly. That's the second reason I disagree with Python's rationale 
 for their indentation mechanism: Automatic code formatters already 
 solve the issue without introducing hidden bugs. And, they're 
 relatively easy to implement anyway, or at least compared to a 
 full-blown compiler (especially if you write it in D ;-) ). 


 There is a D code formatter... it's written in Java, though. It has ~300 
 options last time I touched it, but I think it'll get a couple more when 
 I get around to updating it for D2.


My intentions are to update to 1.029, then support latest 2.x, then 
optimize while retaining correct semantic funcionality. :-)