• eris <jvburnes gmail.com> Jul 13 2010
• Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> Jul 13 2010
• KennyTM~ <kennytm gmail.com> Jul 13 2010
• "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> Jul 13 2010
• eris <jvburnes gmail.com> Jul 13 2010
• Alix Pexton <alix.DOT.pexton gmail.DOT.com> Jul 14 2010
• =?iso-8859-2?B?VG9tZWsgU293afFza2k=?= <just ask.me> Jul 23 2010

eris <jvburnes gmail.com> writes:

Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:

 std.stdio -> std.io
 
 Rationale: stuttering sucks.
 


Absolutely.

 BidirectionalRange -> DoublyEndedRange
 
 Rationale: bidirectional suggests something that can move *in* either 
 direction, whereas in fact the range can be shortened from either end.


It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for something that
is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's also easier and shorter
to pronounce.  Say it with me now:

"DuplexRange"

Keep up the awesome work Andre.

BTW: D really needs some promotional work.  Would there be any chance that you
or Walter could give a talk at Google?  A short presentation with a list of
topics that could improve D would be great as a way to get Google Summer of
Code resources allocated.

Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:

On 07/13/2010 11:30 AM, eris wrote:
 Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:

 std.stdio ->  std.io

 Rationale: stuttering sucks.


 Absolutely.

 BidirectionalRange ->  DoublyEndedRange

 Rationale: bidirectional suggests something that can move *in*
 either direction, whereas in fact the range can be shortened from
 either end.


 It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for
 something that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's
 also easier and shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:

 "DuplexRange"

 Keep up the awesome work Andre.

 BTW: D really needs some promotional work.  Would there be any chance
 that you or Walter could give a talk at Google?  A short presentation
 with a list of topics that could improve D would be great as a way to
 get Google Summer of Code resources allocated.


Google invited me for a talk via Benjamin Shropshire (thanks!). I am 
waiting for my manager's approval.

Andrei

KennyTM~ <kennytm gmail.com> writes:

On Jul 14, 10 00:30, eris wrote:
 Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:

 std.stdio ->  std.io

 Rationale: stuttering sucks.


 Absolutely.

 BidirectionalRange ->  DoublyEndedRange

 Rationale: bidirectional suggests something that can move *in* either
 direction, whereas in fact the range can be shortened from either end.


 It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for something
that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's also easier and
shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:

 "DuplexRange"


[bikeshed]
When one say "duplex" it's usually associated with telecommunication 
(half-duplex/full-duplex) or printing (duplex = two-sided).

And usually it's called "Double-ended" (as in Double-ended queue), not 
Doubly ended.
[/bikeshed]

 Keep up the awesome work Andre.

 BTW: D really needs some promotional work.  Would there be any chance that you
or Walter could give a talk at Google?  A short presentation with a list of
topics that could improve D would be great as a way to get Google Summer of
Code resources allocated.

"Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:

"eris" <jvburnes gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:i1i4bs$1c0e$1 digitalmars.com...
 It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for something 
 that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's also easier and 
 shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:

 "DuplexRange"


I'm a native Englsh speaker, and if I saw something called "DuplexRange", my 
first thought would be "Wait, is that full-duplex or half-duplex?" But maybe 
that's just me :)

eris <jvburnes gmail.com> writes:

Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

 "eris" <jvburnes gmail.com> wrote in message 
 news:i1i4bs$1c0e$1 digitalmars.com...
 It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for something 
 that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's also easier and 
 shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:

 "DuplexRange"


 I'm a native Englsh speaker, and if I saw something called "DuplexRange", my 
 first thought would be "Wait, is that full-duplex or half-duplex?" But maybe 
 that's just me :)
 


Well everyone is going to have an opinion based on the usage of "Duplex" they
are most familiar with.  Full duplex is actually redundant.  Duplex means
double.  Half-Duplex ironically just means single or more properly simplex.

Duplex in comms means double ended communications or a communications channel
that supports simultaneous communications in both directions.

Duplex in printing means printing from both sides.

I was just suggesting a neat and tidy term that when combined with Range means
double-ended range.

If this is not what is meant then by all means suggest a more proper term for
double-ended or double sided.  Could be there is a better term than any of
those.

eris

 

Alix Pexton <alix.DOT.pexton gmail.DOT.com> writes:

On 13/07/2010 20:26, eris wrote:
 Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

 "eris"<jvburnes gmail.com>  wrote in message
 news:i1i4bs$1c0e$1 digitalmars.com...
 It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for something
 that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's also easier and
 shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:

 "DuplexRange"


 I'm a native Englsh speaker, and if I saw something called "DuplexRange", my
 first thought would be "Wait, is that full-duplex or half-duplex?" But maybe
 that's just me :)


 Well everyone is going to have an opinion based on the usage of "Duplex" they
are most familiar with.  Full duplex is actually redundant.  Duplex means
double.  Half-Duplex ironically just means single or more properly simplex.

 Duplex in comms means double ended communications or a communications channel
that supports simultaneous communications in both directions.

 Duplex in printing means printing from both sides.

 I was just suggesting a neat and tidy term that when combined with Range means
double-ended range.

 If this is not what is meant then by all means suggest a more proper term for
double-ended or double sided.  Could be there is a better term than any of
those.

 eris


To me, Half-Duplex != Simplex, as the former is two-way, but not 
simultaneously, as opposed to just single direction, but anyway...

DuplexRange.vote++;

A...

=?iso-8859-2?B?VG9tZWsgU293afFza2k=?= <just ask.me> writes:

Dnia 14-07-2010 o 13:32:44 Alix Pexton <alix.DOT.pexton gmail.dot.com>  =

napisa=B3(a):

 DuplexRange.vote++;


++vote

And it's already used for with similar meaning:
...can communicate with one another in both directions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duplex_(telecommunications)

Tomek