digitalmars.D - Re: [Slight OT] TDPL in Russia
- Sean Kelly <sean invisibleduck.org> Sep 10 2010
- "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> Sep 10 2010
- "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> Sep 10 2010
- Sean Kelly <sean invisibleduck.org> Sep 10 2010
- retard <re tard.com.invalid> Sep 10 2010
Nick Sabalausky Wrote:I was avoiding stating my own Metallica opinions, but now that you mention it, that's exactly how I feel (and yea, I have heard a lot of other people say Load was the start of a downfall). I did kind of like "Until it Sleeps" and maybe one other (forget what), but yea, most of Load/Reload I just never got into. "Black album" was filed with good stuff, and I never understood people that said "St. Anger" was a return to Metallica's former glory. Just sounded like noise to me, and I'm a big metal fan!
I think the first album of their downhill slide was the Black Album. Its production quality was extremely high, and one of the things I liked best about Metallica was the garage sound of the earlier albums. Musically, I really can't fault it though.Speaking of all this, am I correct in my understanding that Load was right after Megadeth split off? (And that "black album" was right before?)
Dave Mustaine left Metallica before they'd ever released an album, I believe. He had a strong influence on their early sound though, and I believe he actually wrote a bunch of their early songs. Overall I think Metallica is more intelligent but Megadeth wins for raw power. I prefer Anthrax over either though :-)
Sep 10 2010
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:31:05 -0400, Sean Kelly <sean invisibleduck.org> wrote:Nick Sabalausky Wrote:I was avoiding stating my own Metallica opinions, but now that you mention it, that's exactly how I feel (and yea, I have heard a lot of other people say Load was the start of a downfall). I did kind of like "Until it Sleeps" and maybe one other (forget what), but yea, most of Load/Reload I just never got into. "Black album" was filed with good stuff, and I never understood people that said "St. Anger" was a return to Metallica's former glory. Just sounded like noise to me, and I'm a big metal fan!
I think the first album of their downhill slide was the Black Album. Its production quality was extremely high, and one of the things I liked best about Metallica was the garage sound of the earlier albums. Musically, I really can't fault it though.
I have a video of Metallica documenting the making of the Black album (A year and a half in the life of Metallica). You may not like the not-garage sound of the album, but it was one of the best produced albums they had, and Bob Rock did an excellent job. One of the coolest things on that video was how they built a special bizarre shaped enclosure for the rhythm guitar on Sad But True, in order to get the correct deep guttural sound. They definitely worked hard to get exactly the sound they wanted, so I feel like that album was almost the peak of how they wanted to sound. Kirk Hammett said the solo on The Unforgiven was the best solo he's ever done. It is a pretty good solo :) Second to that sound, I like the sound of the band from Garage Days Re-Re visited, and then Master of Puppets. Justice was completely horrible sounding, although the music was extremely good, probably my favorite. Many people feel that they sold out on the Justice album because that was the first album they released a video for. It all depends on your preference for "nicheness." -Steve
Sep 10 2010
"Sean Kelly" <sean invisibleduck.org> wrote in message news:i6dq0p$2mua$1 digitalmars.com...Dave Mustaine left Metallica before they'd ever released an album, I believe. He had a strong influence on their early sound though, and I believe he actually wrote a bunch of their early songs. Overall I think Metallica is more intelligent but Megadeth wins for raw power. I prefer Anthrax over either though :-)
I'm not familiar with much of Anthrax's stuff, but "Got the Time" is fantastic. And that one guy, forget his name, but the one with the big Fu Manchu and shows up on VH1 a lot, he seems like a really cool guy, very intelligent.
Sep 10 2010
Nick Sabalausky Wrote:"Sean Kelly" <sean invisibleduck.org> wrote in message news:i6dq0p$2mua$1 digitalmars.com...Dave Mustaine left Metallica before they'd ever released an album, I believe. He had a strong influence on their early sound though, and I believe he actually wrote a bunch of their early songs. Overall I think Metallica is more intelligent but Megadeth wins for raw power. I prefer Anthrax over either though :-)
I'm not familiar with much of Anthrax's stuff, but "Got the Time" is fantastic. And that one guy, forget his name, but the one with the big Fu Manchu and shows up on VH1 a lot, he seems like a really cool guy, very intelligent.
Scott Ian. I think he's half the reason I've continued to like the band so much.
Sep 10 2010
Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:46:13 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:31:05 -0400, Sean Kelly <sean invisibleduck.org> wrote:Nick Sabalausky Wrote:I was avoiding stating my own Metallica opinions, but now that you mention it, that's exactly how I feel (and yea, I have heard a lot of other people say Load was the start of a downfall). I did kind of like "Until it Sleeps" and maybe one other (forget what), but yea, most of Load/Reload I just never got into. "Black album" was filed with good stuff, and I never understood people that said "St. Anger" was a return to Metallica's former glory. Just sounded like noise to me, and I'm a big metal fan!
I think the first album of their downhill slide was the Black Album. Its production quality was extremely high, and one of the things I liked best about Metallica was the garage sound of the earlier albums. Musically, I really can't fault it though.
I have a video of Metallica documenting the making of the Black album (A year and a half in the life of Metallica). You may not like the not-garage sound of the album, but it was one of the best produced albums they had, and Bob Rock did an excellent job. One of the coolest things on that video was how they built a special bizarre shaped enclosure for the rhythm guitar on Sad But True, in order to get the correct deep guttural sound. They definitely worked hard to get exactly the sound they wanted, so I feel like that album was almost the peak of how they wanted to sound. Kirk Hammett said the solo on The Unforgiven was the best solo he's ever done. It is a pretty good solo :)
I'm not a big fan of Metallica, but have to admit that the Black album is one of my favorites. I've actually bought it twice. The first one just disappeared many years ago.
Sep 10 2010