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reply Sean Kelly <sean invisibleduck.org> writes:
Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
 
 I was avoiding stating my own Metallica opinions, but now that you mention 
 it, that's exactly how I feel (and yea, I have heard a lot of other people 
 say Load was the start of a downfall). I did kind of like "Until it Sleeps" 
 and maybe one other (forget what), but yea, most of Load/Reload I just never 
 got into. "Black album" was filed with good stuff, and I never understood 
 people that said "St. Anger" was a return to Metallica's former glory. Just 
 sounded like noise to me, and I'm a big metal fan!

I think the first album of their downhill slide was the Black Album. Its production quality was extremely high, and one of the things I liked best about Metallica was the garage sound of the earlier albums. Musically, I really can't fault it though.
 Speaking of all this, am I correct in my understanding that Load was right 
 after Megadeth split off? (And that "black album" was right before?)

Dave Mustaine left Metallica before they'd ever released an album, I believe. He had a strong influence on their early sound though, and I believe he actually wrote a bunch of their early songs. Overall I think Metallica is more intelligent but Megadeth wins for raw power. I prefer Anthrax over either though :-)
Sep 10 2010
next sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:31:05 -0400, Sean Kelly <sean invisibleduck.org>  
wrote:

 Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
 I was avoiding stating my own Metallica opinions, but now that you  
 mention
 it, that's exactly how I feel (and yea, I have heard a lot of other  
 people
 say Load was the start of a downfall). I did kind of like "Until it  
 Sleeps"
 and maybe one other (forget what), but yea, most of Load/Reload I just  
 never
 got into. "Black album" was filed with good stuff, and I never  
 understood
 people that said "St. Anger" was a return to Metallica's former glory.  
 Just
 sounded like noise to me, and I'm a big metal fan!

I think the first album of their downhill slide was the Black Album. Its production quality was extremely high, and one of the things I liked best about Metallica was the garage sound of the earlier albums. Musically, I really can't fault it though.

I have a video of Metallica documenting the making of the Black album (A year and a half in the life of Metallica). You may not like the not-garage sound of the album, but it was one of the best produced albums they had, and Bob Rock did an excellent job. One of the coolest things on that video was how they built a special bizarre shaped enclosure for the rhythm guitar on Sad But True, in order to get the correct deep guttural sound. They definitely worked hard to get exactly the sound they wanted, so I feel like that album was almost the peak of how they wanted to sound. Kirk Hammett said the solo on The Unforgiven was the best solo he's ever done. It is a pretty good solo :) Second to that sound, I like the sound of the band from Garage Days Re-Re visited, and then Master of Puppets. Justice was completely horrible sounding, although the music was extremely good, probably my favorite. Many people feel that they sold out on the Justice album because that was the first album they released a video for. It all depends on your preference for "nicheness." -Steve
Sep 10 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Sean Kelly" <sean invisibleduck.org> wrote in message 
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 Dave Mustaine left Metallica before they'd ever released an album, I 
 believe.  He had a strong influence on their early sound though, and I 
 believe he actually wrote a bunch of their early songs.  Overall I think 
 Metallica is more intelligent but Megadeth wins for raw power.  I prefer 
 Anthrax over either though :-)

I'm not familiar with much of Anthrax's stuff, but "Got the Time" is fantastic. And that one guy, forget his name, but the one with the big Fu Manchu and shows up on VH1 a lot, he seems like a really cool guy, very intelligent.
Sep 10 2010
parent Sean Kelly <sean invisibleduck.org> writes:
Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

 "Sean Kelly" <sean invisibleduck.org> wrote in message 
 news:i6dq0p$2mua$1 digitalmars.com...
 Dave Mustaine left Metallica before they'd ever released an album, I 
 believe.  He had a strong influence on their early sound though, and I 
 believe he actually wrote a bunch of their early songs.  Overall I think 
 Metallica is more intelligent but Megadeth wins for raw power.  I prefer 
 Anthrax over either though :-)

I'm not familiar with much of Anthrax's stuff, but "Got the Time" is fantastic. And that one guy, forget his name, but the one with the big Fu Manchu and shows up on VH1 a lot, he seems like a really cool guy, very intelligent.

Scott Ian. I think he's half the reason I've continued to like the band so much.
Sep 10 2010
prev sibling parent retard <re tard.com.invalid> writes:
Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:46:13 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:31:05 -0400, Sean Kelly <sean invisibleduck.org>
 wrote:
 
 Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
 I was avoiding stating my own Metallica opinions, but now that you
 mention
 it, that's exactly how I feel (and yea, I have heard a lot of other
 people
 say Load was the start of a downfall). I did kind of like "Until it
 Sleeps"
 and maybe one other (forget what), but yea, most of Load/Reload I just
 never
 got into. "Black album" was filed with good stuff, and I never
 understood
 people that said "St. Anger" was a return to Metallica's former glory.
 Just
 sounded like noise to me, and I'm a big metal fan!

I think the first album of their downhill slide was the Black Album. Its production quality was extremely high, and one of the things I liked best about Metallica was the garage sound of the earlier albums. Musically, I really can't fault it though.

I have a video of Metallica documenting the making of the Black album (A year and a half in the life of Metallica). You may not like the not-garage sound of the album, but it was one of the best produced albums they had, and Bob Rock did an excellent job. One of the coolest things on that video was how they built a special bizarre shaped enclosure for the rhythm guitar on Sad But True, in order to get the correct deep guttural sound. They definitely worked hard to get exactly the sound they wanted, so I feel like that album was almost the peak of how they wanted to sound. Kirk Hammett said the solo on The Unforgiven was the best solo he's ever done. It is a pretty good solo :)

I'm not a big fan of Metallica, but have to admit that the Black album is one of my favorites. I've actually bought it twice. The first one just disappeared many years ago.
Sep 10 2010