• superdan <super dan.org> Jul 22 2008
• JAnderson <ask me.com> Jul 29 2008
• superdan <super dan.org> Jul 29 2008
• BCS <ao pathlink.com> Jul 29 2008
• JAnderson <ask me.com> Jul 31 2008
• superdan <super dan.org> Jul 31 2008
• "Chris R. Miller" <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> Jul 29 2008
• superdan <super dan.org> Jul 29 2008
• "Chris R. Miller" <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> Jul 29 2008
• BCS <ao pathlink.com> Jul 29 2008
• superdan <super dan.org> Jul 29 2008
• "Chris R. Miller" <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> Jul 29 2008
• Yigal Chripun <yigal100 gmail.com> Aug 01 2008
• "Simen Kjaeraas" <simen.kjaras gmail.com> Jul 29 2008

superdan <super dan.org> writes:

Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:

 "superdan" <super dan.org> wrote in message 
 news:g5qa4f$n1g$1 digitalmars.com...
 Matti Niemenmaa Wrote:

 Walter Bright wrote:
 I don't see the need for an inline or non-inline specifier. It's as
 obsolete as the register keyword.


 Then why was "inout" renamed to "ref"?

 Before you say, "so that we could have 'const ref'", let me note that ref 
 in
 that sense is as obsolete as inline or register. It should just be "in" 
 or the
 default and the compiler should figure out whether it's by-reference or 
 by-value.


 how is that even close to making sense?

 before you say, "but value vs. 'in' is entirely transparent to the user", 
 let me note that aliasing is going to fuck that plan right there.

 deciding value vs. reference only works for invariant shit. it's in fact 
 part of why invariant shit is so fucking brilliant.


 Dan, you make good points and seem to have a head on your shoulders, but the 
 swearing really is unnecessary.  That doesn't mean I don't swear, I do it 
 all the time.  But this is not really the place for it.
 
 Consider how much more coherent and reasonable your post sounds like this:
 
 ----
 how is that even close to making sense?
 
 before you say, "but value vs. 'in' is entirely transparent to the user", 
 let me note that aliasing is going to completely invalidate that plan right 
 there.
 
 deciding value vs. reference only works for invariant data. it's in fact 
 part of why invariant data is so incredibly brilliant.
 ----
 
 Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like 
 you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just 
 makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy. 


you're a good guy jarrett so i'll reply to this. the problem is i'm not a good
guy. anyone who knows me would agree i'm a gaping asshole. but at least i'm not
bullshitting. if i say something online you know i could say the same to your
face. and anyone fucking with me will get a good serving of knuckle juice with
shin extract for good measure. so why would i lie online by being nice.

if anything pisses me off it's the opposite phenomenon: people who are all
nicey-nicey in real life and they let their fucking aggression go berserk
online. if most would have to say to another's face 10% of what they say
online, they'd shit in their pants. as an example. i couldn't make it to the d
conference last year. did anyone start a fight? i bet not. yet if this group
was any indication, that would've been a fucking ufc conference, not a d
conference.

sticking online with what you could afford saying irl is the best way.

JAnderson <ask me.com> writes:

superdan wrote:
 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:


 Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like 
 you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just 
 makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy. 




I'm glad I'm not the only one.

In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all 
over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no 
valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be 
thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.

If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least 
communicate with proper edicate.

-Joel

superdan <super dan.org> writes:

JAnderson Wrote:

 superdan wrote:
 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:


 Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like 
 you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just 
 makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy. 




 I'm glad I'm not the only one.
 
 In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all 
 over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no 
 valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be 
 thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.
 
 If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least 
 communicate with proper edicate.


you almost had me convinced. then i saw the last word. shit man. edicate? did
you mean etiquette? are you gwb undercover?

BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:

Reply to superdan,

 you almost had me convinced. then i saw the last word. shit man.
 edicate? did you mean etiquette? are you gwb undercover?
 


Bad speling does not invalideat a point  (ignoreing things like "this
statemeant 
is speled corectly"). The only reson that bad speling wood make a diference 
is if the readar is incapeble of  logikal though and asumes that if the righter 
can spel that the argumint is valod.

Bad spelling does not invalidate a point (ignoring things like "this statement 
is spelled correctly"). The only reason that bad spelling would make a
difference 
is if the reader is incapable of logical though and assumes that if the writer 
can spell that the argument is valid.

QED

JAnderson <ask me.com> writes:

superdan wrote:
 JAnderson Wrote:
 
 superdan wrote:
 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
 Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like 
 you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just 
 makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy. 





 In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all 
 over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no 
 valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be 
 thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.

 If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least 
 communicate with proper edicate.


 you almost had me convinced. then i saw the last word. edicate? did you mean
etiquette? are you gwb undercover?


What if English was my second language?  Would that invalidate my opinion?

-Joel

BTW: My first language is C++ followed by D, then English :)

superdan <super dan.org> writes:

JAnderson Wrote:

 superdan wrote:
 JAnderson Wrote:
 
 superdan wrote:
 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
 Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like 
 you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just 
 makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy. 





 In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all 
 over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no 
 valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be 
 thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.

 If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least 
 communicate with proper edicate.


 you almost had me convinced. then i saw the last word. edicate? did you mean
etiquette? are you gwb undercover?


 What if English was my second language?  Would that invalidate my opinion?
 
 -Joel
 
 BTW: My first language is C++ followed by D, then English :)


odd. "edicate" is typical for americans who hear it and don't bother to spell
it. foreigners usually spell properly. at any rate: spell checkers leave little
room for excuse. until a good argument comes along, i'll continue making
sailors cry.

"Chris R. Miller" <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> writes:

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JAnderson wrote:
 superdan wrote:
 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:


 Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel =






 like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the=20
 internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy.=20




 I'm glad I'm not the only one.
=20
 In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all=20
 over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no=20
 valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be=20
 thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.
=20
 If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least=20
 communicate with proper edicate.


Well if you're ______ity _____ cussing all the _____ time it makes your=20
_______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so ______ing long =

to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore them.

superdan <super dan.org> writes:

Chris R. Miller Wrote:

 JAnderson wrote:
 superdan wrote:
 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:


 Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel 
 like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the 
 internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy. 




 I'm glad I'm not the only one.
 
 In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all 
 over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no 
 valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be 
 thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.
 
 If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least 
 communicate with proper edicate.


 Well if you're ______ity _____ cussing all the _____ time it makes your 
 _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so ______ing long 
 to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore them.


did you mean "your"?

"Chris R. Miller" <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> writes:

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superdan wrote:
 Chris R. Miller Wrote:
=20
 JAnderson wrote:
 superdan wrote:
 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
 Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you fee=










 like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the=20
 internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy.=20





 In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all=






 over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no=20
 valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be=20
 thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.

 If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least=20
 communicate with proper edicate.






 _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so ______ing lo=




 to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore them.


 did you mean "your"?


No, my grammar was correct.  You're =3D you are (contraction), your =3D y=
ou=20
(possessive).

Perhaps you'd like to go play the part of a Grammar Nazi with the other=20
guys on irc.freenode.net/##English ?

BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:

Reply to Chris,

 superdan wrote:
 
 Chris R. Miller Wrote:
 
 Well if you're ______ity _____ cussing all the _____ time it makes
 your _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so
 ______ing long to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore
 them.
 


 


 you (possessive).
 
 Perhaps you'd like to go play the part of a Grammar Nazi with the
 other guys on irc.freenode.net/##English ?
 


to give him /some/ credit: I think, depending on what ______ and _____ is 
used, "your" and "you're" may both be correct. But who the _____* cares!

* I can see it now, this thread will end in a post with nothing but _s and 
' 's.

superdan <super dan.org> writes:

Chris R. Miller Wrote:

 superdan wrote:
 Chris R. Miller Wrote:
 
 JAnderson wrote:
 superdan wrote:
 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
 Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel 
 like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the 
 internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy. 





 In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all 
 over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no 
 valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be 
 thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.

 If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least 
 communicate with proper edicate.


 _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so ______ing long 
 to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore them.


 did you mean "your"?


 No, my grammar was correct.  You're = you are (contraction), your = you 
 (possessive).
 
 Perhaps you'd like to go play the part of a Grammar Nazi with the other 
 guys on irc.freenode.net/##English ?


it was a legit question, einstein. i couldn't figure out what "____ity" means.

at any rate. if someone asks me to change my language, they'd be a lot more
credible if they had theirs in good shape. cussing is a choice. "edicate" is
ignorance.

"Chris R. Miller" <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> writes:

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superdan wrote:
 Chris R. Miller Wrote:
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 superdan wrote:
 Chris R. Miller Wrote:

 JAnderson wrote:
 superdan wrote:
 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
 Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you f=














 like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the=20
 internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy.=20





 In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing a=










 over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no=20
 valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be=20
 thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.

 If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least =










 communicate with proper edicate.










 _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so ______ing =








 to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore them.








 (possessive).

 Perhaps you'd like to go play the part of a Grammar Nazi with the othe=




 guys on irc.freenode.net/##English ?


 it was a legit question, einstein. i couldn't figure out what "____ity"=



Fair enough.

 at any rate. if someone asks me to change my language, they'd be a lot =


cate" is ignorance.

Cussing in a _public_ forum is absolutely intolerable.  Savvy?

Yigal Chripun <yigal100 gmail.com> writes:

superdan wrote:
<snip/>
 
 it was a legit question, einstein. i couldn't figure out what
 "____ity" means.
 
 at any rate. if someone asks me to change my language, they'd be a
 lot more credible if they had theirs in good shape. cussing is a
 choice. "edicate" is ignorance.


I disagree. cussing shows lack of manners and lack of respect towards
the people you try to communicate with. bad spelling can only show a
lack of a spell checker. you forget that this is an international forum
and so is most of the internet. Not all humanity is required to speak
English, and even English speakers can make typos.

I try to write in proper English (even though it's /not/ my native
tongue) and I also run the spell checker because I respect the people of
this forum. Certainly you can also show a little more respect towards
the people here.

"Simen Kjaeraas" <simen.kjaras gmail.com> writes:

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:47:41 +0200, BCS <ao pathlink.com> wrote:

 Reply to Chris,

 superdan wrote:

 Chris R. Miller Wrote:

 Well if you're ______ity _____ cussing all the _____ time it makes
 your _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so
 ______ing long to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore
 them.




 you (possessive).
  Perhaps you'd like to go play the part of a Grammar Nazi with the
 other guys on irc.freenode.net/##English ?


 to give him /some/ credit: I think, depending on what ______ and _____  
 is used, "your" and "you're" may both be correct. But who the _____*  
 cares!

 * I can see it now, this thread will end in a post with nothing but _s  
 and ' 's.



___ _____ __! _____ __. ______ __ __ _____ __________________.

-- 
Simen