• Jesse Phililps <jessekphillips+D gmail.com> May 11 2011
• Matthew Ong <ongbp yahoo.com> May 12 2011
• Matthew Ong <ongbp yahoo.com> May 12 2011

Jesse Phililps <jessekphillips+D gmail.com> writes:

Your points have been covered by others, but in general they are a little
confusing. You're making statements about things that just aren't true or
shouldn't be true for D. I'm going to request you try and elaborate what you
mean. And recap some information.

Matthew Ong Wrote:

...
 I also downloaded the http://d-ide.sourceforge.net/.
 This IDE is small foot print and tries to be like visual studio.
 Why not someone in D consider porting this to a more mature IDE like:
 
 SharpDevelop
 http://sharpdevelop.net/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx
 Or
 NetBeans or Eclipse
 Instead of re-inventing the wheel?


Writing something from scratch is a lot of fun and can be easier, especially
when you think everyone else is doing it wrong.

There are integration projects for Eclipse and Visual Studio too.
 

 2) D Supports Interface and Class inheritance. (Nice!!)
    However I seems to have problem to model something like this in D:


    I tried:
    class MyException : Exception, SomeInterface{ // << That cause
 compilation error. Why??? How to work around or solution?
    }
 


This should work with the exception that you will have to implement the
interface functions. What compiler error are you getting?
...
 4) Is there also a Code formatting tool like:
    gofmt Gofmt formats Go programs. // That save me a lot to time.
    The Netbeans and eclipse has this build in feature.


Nope. D is very close to C so you can probably use ident, it has enough options
it should be able to do whatever you want it to.

http://linux.die.net/man/1/indent

 5) import std.stdio; // The imports seems to be more complex to use
 than java's import. There should be a tool to help resolved this and
 also makes the order of importing of not important like in java.


What do you mean order matters?

On the compilation side of things D is more complicated in that dmd must be
told where ever file being compiled is located and won't go looking for it.
rdmd however does come with dmd and will do this search for you.

 
 6) Is there some build in source code checking command like:
  govet
 http://golang.org/cmd/


Nope.

 
 7) How about unit test, is there a library like junit or cppunit
    is there something similar that can allow code to be profile,
 tested and validated?


As others/Walter mentioned. unttest blocks are part of the language, along with
contracts. dmd has profile and coverage switches.

 May I also ask, does the compiler and linker highlight the unused
 import to the user so that they can be removed from source code.


No. Though the linker should not compile unused code into the executable. A
common view is this should be handled by your IDE.

 The have experienced with C++ and C since back in the turbo c dos day
 and Java. D seems to be promising. Overall nice and good. But can be
 improved more to simplified coding cycle.


D needs much better tool support, especially for the Application developers.
But in some places it is just different.

Matthew Ong <ongbp yahoo.com> writes:

 Jesse Phililps,

Your points have been covered by others, but in general they are a little


shouldn't be true for D.
I'm going to request you try and elaborate what you mean. And recap some
information.


That might be for some of the cases. Yes. This thread deserved to have some
point
cleared.
The post may have mix up the task of the ide and sdk tool/compiler tool. What I
am
looking at is the
entire development process of a developer day by day.

Library importing/creation, formatting code, documenting, Re-factoring,
Resource+memory+...etc
I did specified in my first post I narrowed down into D/Go compare to pure java
or
pure C/C++.

Writing something from scratch is a lot of fun and can be easier,
especially when you think everyone else is doing it wrong.
 No. Though the linker should not compile unused code into the executable.
 A common view is this should be handled by your IDE.


error with either compiler or linker phase of the dmd process.

Some how the web newsgroup interface does not allow me to attached images either
that or the site update is slow.

Matthew Ong <ongbp yahoo.com> writes:

!!!! AH!!!! The past few post that I updated with png file is not shown.
I suspected the web news group is not working that smooth.