• H. S. Teoh (16/31) Aug 01 2013 [...]
• John Colvin (4/46) Aug 01 2013 I used to be put off by using bugzilla as it seemed complicated.
• Walter Bright (5/16) Aug 01 2013 Bugzilla is infinitely better than what we were doing before. After usin...

"H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh quickfur.ath.cx> writes:

On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 07:14:04PM +0200, Wyatt wrote:
 On Thursday, 1 August 2013 at 16:55:21 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Y'know, one feature I've always wanted is the equivalent of
preprocessed C code -- with all mixins expanded, aliases substituted
with their final target, templates fully expanded, all syntactic
sugar lowered, with the original code lines in comments, so that you
can see exactly how your code was translated, and whether it matches
what you *think* it does.  This would also be invaluable for
debugging, as then it will map to the assembly code much better,
which will help you trace where things went wrong.

 Considering how useful that sounds, I'm a little surprised this only
 has three votes in three years:
 http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5051

[...]

Heh, I didn't even know it was there! Thanks for the link!


On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 07:23:45PM +0200, Tofu Ninja wrote:
[...]
 I didn't even know that was out there, I never go to the issue
 tracker, seems unwieldy and unfriendly to me..

I've to admit I don't understand that sentiment at all. It's just
bugzilla, one of the many bug tracking systems out there. You run into a
problem, you post a bug, describe the problem, show the code, show the
results, explain what you expected to see, etc., and the devs set tags
on it to indicate what kind of problem it is, give feedback, discuss the
issue with you, and then post an update when the problem has been
addressed. I don't see what's so unwieldy about it -- that's what you
basically have to do to resolve an issue!


T

-- 
Never trust an operating system you don't have source for! -- Martin Schulze

"John Colvin" <john.loughran.colvin gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 1 August 2013 at 17:44:17 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 07:14:04PM +0200, Wyatt wrote:
 On Thursday, 1 August 2013 at 16:55:21 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Y'know, one feature I've always wanted is the equivalent of
preprocessed C code -- with all mixins expanded, aliases 
substituted
with their final target, templates fully expanded, all 
syntactic
sugar lowered, with the original code lines in comments, so 
that you
can see exactly how your code was translated, and whether it 
matches
what you *think* it does.  This would also be invaluable for
debugging, as then it will map to the assembly code much 
better,
which will help you trace where things went wrong.

 Considering how useful that sounds, I'm a little surprised 
 this only
 has three votes in three years:
 http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5051

 [...]

 Heh, I didn't even know it was there! Thanks for the link!


 On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 07:23:45PM +0200, Tofu Ninja wrote:
 [...]
 I didn't even know that was out there, I never go to the issue
 tracker, seems unwieldy and unfriendly to me..

 I've to admit I don't understand that sentiment at all. It's 
 just
 bugzilla, one of the many bug tracking systems out there. You 
 run into a
 problem, you post a bug, describe the problem, show the code, 
 show the
 results, explain what you expected to see, etc., and the devs 
 set tags
 on it to indicate what kind of problem it is, give feedback, 
 discuss the
 issue with you, and then post an update when the problem has 
 been
 addressed. I don't see what's so unwieldy about it -- that's 
 what you
 basically have to do to resolve an issue!


 T

I used to be put off by using bugzilla as it seemed complicated. 
Then I used it once and found it ridiculously simple. (Although I 
still don't know whether P1 is more urgent than P5)

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

On 8/1/2013 10:58 AM, John Colvin wrote:
 I've to admit I don't understand that sentiment at all. It's just
 bugzilla, one of the many bug tracking systems out there. You run into a
 problem, you post a bug, describe the problem, show the code, show the
 results, explain what you expected to see, etc., and the devs set tags
 on it to indicate what kind of problem it is, give feedback, discuss the
 issue with you, and then post an update when the problem has been
 addressed. I don't see what's so unwieldy about it -- that's what you
 basically have to do to resolve an issue!


Bugzilla is infinitely better than what we were doing before. After using 
bugzilla for years now, I don't really have any complaints about it. It does
the 
job with a minimum of fuss.


 I used to be put off by using bugzilla as it seemed complicated. Then I used it
 once and found it ridiculously simple. (Although I still don't know whether P1
 is more urgent than P5)

It also seems redundant with the critical/major/normal setting.