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reply "Jonathan Marler" <johnnymarler gmail.com> writes:
I created a PR for optlink about 7 months ago and I don't think 
it's been looked at.

PR: https://github.com/DigitalMars/optlink/pull/16
Bug: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4831

Can someone take a look?
Jan 27 2015
parent reply "H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d" <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 07:01:02PM +0000, Jonathan Marler via Digitalmars-d
wrote:

 I created a PR for optlink about 7 months ago and I don't think it's
 been looked at.
 
 PR: https://github.com/DigitalMars/optlink/pull/16
 Bug: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4831
 
 Can someone take a look?


Probably Walter is the only person who is qualified to look at optlink
PRs. Maybe ping him directly?


T

-- 
Written on the window of a clothing store: No shirt, no shoes, no service.
Jan 27 2015
parent reply "Jonathan Marler" <johnnymarler gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 19:35:44 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 07:01:02PM +0000, Jonathan Marler via 
 Digitalmars-d wrote:

 I created a PR for optlink about 7 months ago and I don't 
 think it's
 been looked at.
 
 PR: https://github.com/DigitalMars/optlink/pull/16
 Bug: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4831
 
 Can someone take a look?


 Probably Walter is the only person who is qualified to look at 
 optlink
 PRs. Maybe ping him directly?


 T


How do I ping him directly?
Jan 27 2015
parent reply "H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d" <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 07:48:15PM +0000, Jonathan Marler via Digitalmars-d
wrote:

 On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 19:35:44 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 07:01:02PM +0000, Jonathan Marler via
Digitalmars-d wrote:

I created a PR for optlink about 7 months ago and I don't think it's
been looked at.

PR: https://github.com/DigitalMars/optlink/pull/16
Bug: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4831

Can someone take a look?


Probably Walter is the only person who is qualified to look at optlink
PRs. Maybe ping him directly?


T


 
 How do I ping him directly?


Email him?


T

-- 
Береги платье снову, а здоровье смолоду.
Jan 27 2015
parent reply "Jonathan Marler" <johnnymarler gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 19:55:06 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 07:48:15PM +0000, Jonathan Marler via 
 Digitalmars-d wrote:

 On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 19:35:44 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 07:01:02PM +0000, Jonathan Marler via
Digitalmars-d wrote:

I created a PR for optlink about 7 months ago and I don't 
think it's
been looked at.

PR: https://github.com/DigitalMars/optlink/pull/16
Bug: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4831

Can someone take a look?


Probably Walter is the only person who is qualified to look 
at optlink
PRs. Maybe ping him directly?


T


 
 How do I ping him directly?


 Email him?


 T


I still haven't figured out how to email someone without knowing 
their email address.  Could we get a developer to work on that? 
Maybe I'll file a bug report.

Internet Bug: Unable to email someone without knowing their email 
address

Silly internet, why didn't Al Gore think of this!
Jan 27 2015
next sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 1/27/15 12:31 PM, Jonathan Marler wrote:

 I still haven't figured out how to email someone without knowing their
 email address.


http://goo.gl/go5Dks -- Andrei
Jan 27 2015
parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 1/27/15 12:42 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 1/27/15 12:31 PM, Jonathan Marler wrote:

 I still haven't figured out how to email someone without knowing their
 email address.


 http://goo.gl/go5Dks -- Andrei


I got destroyed - his "Send email to Walter Bright" button doesn't 
work... -- Andrei
Jan 27 2015
next sibling parent "eles" <eles eles.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 20:44:53 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:

 On 1/27/15 12:42 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 1/27/15 12:31 PM, Jonathan Marler wrote:

 I still haven't figured out how to email someone without 
 knowing their
 email address.


 http://goo.gl/go5Dks -- Andrei


 I got destroyed - his "Send email to Walter Bright" button 
 doesn't work... -- Andrei


Yes, me too I tried that button in the last 30 minutes...
Jan 27 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent "eles" <eles eles.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 20:44:53 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 On 1/27/15 12:42 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 1/27/15 12:31 PM, Jonathan Marler wrote:

 I still haven't figured out how to email someone without 
 knowing their
 email address.


 http://goo.gl/go5Dks -- Andrei


 I got destroyed - his "Send email to Walter Bright" button 
 doesn't work... -- Andrei


I bet that Walter is aiming for the Zero Inbox :) That's part of 
his strategy for that!
Jan 27 2015
prev sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 1/27/2015 12:44 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 1/27/15 12:42 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 1/27/15 12:31 PM, Jonathan Marler wrote:

 I still haven't figured out how to email someone without knowing their
 email address.


 http://goo.gl/go5Dks -- Andrei


 I got destroyed - his "Send email to Walter Bright" button doesn't work... --
 Andrei


Apparently it works on Explorer and Firefox, does not on Chrome.
Jan 27 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent "Daniel Murphy" <yebbliesnospam gmail.com> writes:
"Jonathan Marler"  wrote in message 
news:ziogluwispkhxncgrrbn forum.dlang.org...


 I still haven't figured out how to email someone without knowing their 
 email address.  Could we get a developer to work on that? Maybe I'll file 
 a bug report.


The trick is to find their email address, then use that to send the email. 
Walter's email address if visible online if you look hard enough: 
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/50DAD8BA.8030205 digitalmars.com
Jan 27 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 1/27/2015 12:31 PM, Jonathan Marler wrote:

 I still haven't figured out how to email someone without knowing their email
 address.


Reply to me!
Jan 27 2015
prev sibling parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 20:31:57 UTC, Jonathan Marler 
wrote:

 I still haven't figured out how to email someone without 
 knowing their email address.  Could we get a developer to work 
 on that? Maybe I'll file a bug report.

 Internet Bug: Unable to email someone without knowing their 
 email address

 Silly internet, why didn't Al Gore think of this!


The web forum does not expose the email addresses users post with 
via a clickable link (so that evil spam robots don't harvest 
them). That doesn't mean that they're not available.

You can view the raw message source by getting a post's 
permalink, then replacing /post/ with /source/. The email address 
will be there.
Jan 27 2015
next sibling parent "Jonathan Marler" <johnnymarler gmail.com> writes:
 The web forum does not expose the email addresses users post 
 with via a clickable link (so that evil spam robots don't 
 harvest them). That doesn't mean that they're not available.

 You can view the raw message source by getting a post's 
 permalink, then replacing /post/ with /source/. The email 
 address will be there.


Very helpful thank you.
Jan 27 2015
prev sibling parent reply "Jonathan Marler" <johnnymarler gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 at 00:20:08 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

 On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 20:31:57 UTC, Jonathan Marler 
 wrote:

 I still haven't figured out how to email someone without 
 knowing their email address.  Could we get a developer to work 
 on that? Maybe I'll file a bug report.

 Internet Bug: Unable to email someone without knowing their 
 email address

 Silly internet, why didn't Al Gore think of this!


 The web forum does not expose the email addresses users post 
 with via a clickable link (so that evil spam robots don't 
 harvest them). That doesn't mean that they're not available.

 You can view the raw message source by getting a post's 
 permalink, then replacing /post/ with /source/. The email 
 address will be there.


Just had a thought.  You could expose the email addresses only 
for users that are logged in.  That way the evil robots won't be 
able to steal the email addresses but real people can still 
access them easily.  However, maybe it is meant to be difficult 
by design? in which case nevermind :)
Jan 27 2015
parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 at 04:17:12 UTC, Jonathan Marler 
wrote:

 Just had a thought.  You could expose the email addresses only 
 for users that are logged in.  That way the evil robots won't 
 be able to steal the email addresses but real people can still 
 access them easily.  However, maybe it is meant to be difficult 
 by design? in which case nevermind :)


Registration on the forum is currently very simple because it 
grants no additional privileges. Half of the spam that we had was 
coming from registered accounts, so it's not likely to be a 
considerable deterrent.

I have thought about (and even implemented, but never enabled) 
adding a link which allows getting a user's email address after 
solving a CAPTCHA challenge.

I am hesitant to enable this, because:

- The reCAPTCHA MailHide API documentation has been quietly 
removed from Google's website.
- The email hiding feature on Google Code now no longer allows 
solving a CAPTCHA to get an email address.

Something tells me that in spam economics, a working email 
address is worth much more than the cost of solving a CAPTCHA.

Of course, in our case, it would be easy to harvest everyone's 
email from the NNTP server. But most spammers don't know that.
Jan 28 2015
parent reply "Jonathan Marler" <johnnymarler gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 at 21:12:58 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

 On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 at 04:17:12 UTC, Jonathan Marler 
 wrote:

 Just had a thought.  You could expose the email addresses only 
 for users that are logged in.  That way the evil robots won't 
 be able to steal the email addresses but real people can still 
 access them easily.  However, maybe it is meant to be 
 difficult by design? in which case nevermind :)


 Registration on the forum is currently very simple because it 
 grants no additional privileges. Half of the spam that we had 
 was coming from registered accounts, so it's not likely to be a 
 considerable deterrent.

 I have thought about (and even implemented, but never enabled) 
 adding a link which allows getting a user's email address after 
 solving a CAPTCHA challenge.

 I am hesitant to enable this, because:

 - The reCAPTCHA MailHide API documentation has been quietly 
 removed from Google's website.
 - The email hiding feature on Google Code now no longer allows 
 solving a CAPTCHA to get an email address.

 Something tells me that in spam economics, a working email 
 address is worth much more than the cost of solving a CAPTCHA.

 Of course, in our case, it would be easy to harvest everyone's 
 email from the NNTP server. But most spammers don't know that.


They may not have known before but now they do! lol :)  Robots 
are sniffing our sites with valid accounts! I was not expecting 
that...wow.  Writing a generic robot that can create accounts and 
login with them seems like a tough problem, I'm impressed.
Jan 28 2015
next sibling parent "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 at 21:17:25 UTC, Jonathan Marler 
wrote:

 They may not have known before but now they do! lol :)  Robots 
 are sniffing our sites with valid accounts! I was not expecting 
 that...wow.  Writing a generic robot that can create accounts 
 and login with them seems like a tough problem, I'm impressed.


That's because they're not robots. The spam we had was coming 
from humans posting spamvertisements by hand.
Jan 28 2015
prev sibling parent reply ketmar <ketmar ketmar.no-ip.org> writes:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 21:17:24 +0000, Jonathan Marler wrote:


 They may not have known before but now they do! lol :)  Robots are
 sniffing our sites with valid accounts! I was not expecting that...wow.=20
 Writing a generic robot that can create accounts and login with them
 seems like a tough problem, I'm impressed.


this is the best universal robot created to date: human being. ;-)=
Jan 28 2015
parent "eles" <eles eles.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 at 22:06:16 UTC, ketmar wrote:

 On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 21:17:24 +0000, Jonathan Marler wrote:



 this is the best universal robot created to date: human being. 
 ;-)



quote attributed to a 1965 NASA report advocating manned space 
flight: "Man is the lowest-cost, 150-pound, nonlinear, 
all-purpose computer system which can be mass-produced by 
unskilled labor."

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/10/where-human-workers-can-still-beat-robots-at-least-for-now/247259/
Feb 01 2015