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reply Laeeth Isharc <laeeth kaleidic.io> writes:
Hi.

I wrote down a few things I am doing for covid preparedness and 
thought I should share them here. It was written hurriedly for 
internal use, but maybe it could be interesting to others.

PRs welcomed.

https://github.com/symmetry-covid/personal-plan


Laeeth
Oct 19 2020
next sibling parent reply rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:
A couple lessons we learned in NZ that worked extremely well:

Hand sanitizer at every chance you can get (i.e. every time you enter a 
building, use it).

Distance yourself, 2 meters.


What we didn't do until much later (but by the looks of things, if it 
gets bad we would have no choice): masks. This is preventative. You will 
not know that you have COVID-19 until it is too late.

Last but no less important: Stay at home! If you are not perfectly 
healthy, keep away from others.


We had a non existent flu season this year because of all these measures.

Is Symmetry offering the hand sanitizer and where possible encouraging 
social distancing within their offices?
Oct 19 2020
next sibling parent John Colvin <john.loughran.colvin gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 19 October 2020 at 23:55:57 UTC, rikki cattermole 
wrote:

 A couple lessons we learned in NZ that worked extremely well:

 Hand sanitizer at every chance you can get (i.e. every time you 
 enter a building, use it).

 Distance yourself, 2 meters.


 What we didn't do until much later (but by the looks of things, 
 if it gets bad we would have no choice): masks. This is 
 preventative. You will not know that you have COVID-19 until it 
 is too late.

 Last but no less important: Stay at home! If you are not 
 perfectly healthy, keep away from others.


 We had a non existent flu season this year because of all these 
 measures.

 Is Symmetry offering the hand sanitizer and where possible 
 encouraging social distancing within their offices?


Without discussing internal affairs too much, infer as you see 
fit:

I haven't been in person to a Symmetry office since the end of 
February. I have moved >100 miles drive away from the office and 
have no regrets. If I catch covid, it won't be from a colleague.
Oct 22 2020
prev sibling parent reply Laeeth Isharc <laeeth laeeth.com> writes:
On Monday, 19 October 2020 at 23:55:57 UTC, rikki cattermole 
wrote:

 What we didn't do until much later (but by the looks of things, 
 if it gets bad we would have no choice): masks. This is 
 preventative. You will not know that you have COVID-19 until it 
 is too late.

 Last but no less important: Stay at home! If you are not 
 perfectly healthy, keep away from others.




 Is Symmetry offering the hand sanitizer and where possible 
 encouraging social distancing within their offices?


We started preparing for everyone to work from home in January 
and the final instruction not to come into the office went out 
Feb 23.  We told everyone in January to prepare by having three 
weeks of food at home, order masks and to consider vitamin D.

We pay for vitamin D tests for all employees and consultants and 
we are trialling antigen strip tests with the hope we can pay for 
weekly testing of Symmetry people and their families.

We have also written some public policy proposals to try to 
improve Covid policy in the UK.

It's not really an issue to have social distancing within the 
office because they have been closed since February and I don't 
see a way that we can reopen any time soon.

Hand sanitiser is a good idea if you can't safely wash your 
hands, but for a disease spread by droplets and aerosol it's only 
something. Our building is owned by the NHS so unfortunately it's 
tough to get them to fit HEPA filters and viricidal UV to the 
HVAC. A bare minimum to reopen safely.

We are opening a Jersey office and giving people the option to 
relocate here.  It's a bit easier to govern an island than a 
great nation.
Oct 25 2020
parent rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:
Very nice!
Oct 25 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Bastiaan Veelo <Bastiaan Veelo.net> writes:
On Monday, 19 October 2020 at 23:34:50 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 Hi.

 I wrote down a few things I am doing for covid preparedness


...

 https://github.com/symmetry-covid/personal-plan


 Laeeth


Good to see you made it through, and thanks for sharing your 
findings. Good job preventing the infection of your family 
members!

Bastiaan
Oct 20 2020
parent Laeeth Isharc <laeeth laeeth.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 08:28:35 UTC, Bastiaan Veelo wrote:

 On Monday, 19 October 2020 at 23:34:50 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 Hi.

 I wrote down a few things I am doing for covid preparedness


 ...

 https://github.com/symmetry-covid/personal-plan


 Laeeth


 Good to see you made it through, and thanks for sharing your 
 findings. Good job preventing the infection of your family 
 members!

 Bastiaan


Thanks, Bastiaan.
Oct 25 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent Russel Winder <russel winder.org.uk> writes:
Laeeth,


 PRs welcomed.
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It is perhaps worth noting that there has been a shortage in some areas of =
the
UK of some of the reagents for doing many of the biochemistry (yellow SST
vial) tests associated with many "blood test" in the last few weeks. This h=
as
had a huge effect on managing prostate cancer in the last few weeks, and
indeeed any other cancer that requires bone and renal profiles =E2=80=93 th=
ough I can
only speak directly about managing prostate cancer. This does not affect fu=
ll
blood count (Lavender vial).

The demand for biochemistry blood tests country-wide seems (at first sight,
more investigation needed to get actual facts) to have led to NHS not being
able to support people currently in treatment. :-(

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Dr Russel Winder      t: +44 20 7585 2200
41 Buckmaster Road    m: +44 7770 465 077
London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk
Oct 20 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Russel Winder <russel winder.org.uk> writes:
Laeeth,

It is also worth noting that we currently appear to have a UK national
shortage of sensible (*) Vitamin D supplements. Sad for those of us that kn=
ow
we need the supplement but now can't get them. :-(

(*) And even the useless ones. :-( :-(
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Dr Russel Winder      t: +44 20 7585 2200
41 Buckmaster Road    m: +44 7770 465 077
London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk
Oct 20 2020
parent reply Laeeth Isharc <laeeth laeeth.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 11:11:05 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:

 Laeeth,

 It is also worth noting that we currently appear to have a UK 
 national shortage of sensible (*) Vitamin D supplements. Sad 
 for those of us that know we need the supplement but now can't 
 get them. :-(

 (*) And even the useless ones. :-( :-(


I think that vitamin D sprays 3,000 IU are still available on 
Amazon UK.
Oct 25 2020
parent Russel Winder <russel winder.org.uk> writes:
On Mon, 2020-10-26 at 02:29 +0000, Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d wrote:

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 Amazon UK.
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Some 4,500 IU vitamin D capsules are appearing again online, including Amaz=
on,
so my panic is over (at least for now).

OH research over the years indicates that coconut oil (not sunflower oil)
carried vitamin D > 3,000 IU in capsules taken together with some form of
Omega 3/Omega 6 capsule is the best way of getting vitamin D absorbed into =
the
body. Mixed vitamin D and vitamin K tend to be not so good.

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Dr Russel Winder      t: +44 20 7585 2200
41 Buckmaster Road    m: +44 7770 465 077
London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk
Oct 26 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Russel Winder <russel winder.org.uk> writes:
Laeeth,

I hope you are now feeling well after your foray with Covid-19, and especia=
lly
that you do not have any signs at all of "Long Covid".


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Dr Russel Winder      t: +44 20 7585 2200
41 Buckmaster Road    m: +44 7770 465 077
London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk
Oct 20 2020
parent reply Basile B. <b2.temp gmx.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 11:13:20 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:

 Laeeth,

 I hope you are now feeling well after your foray with Covid-19, 
 and especially that you do not have any signs at all of "Long 
 Covid".


you've been infected Laeeth?
Oct 20 2020
parent reply Basile B. <b2.temp gmx.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 18:44:20 UTC, Basile B. wrote:

 On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 11:13:20 UTC, Russel Winder 
 wrote:

 Laeeth,

 I hope you are now feeling well after your foray with 
 Covid-19, and especially that you do not have any signs at all 
 of "Long Covid".


 you've been infected Laeeth?


I'have been By the the throat.
My immune sustem just fought very well.
Oct 20 2020
parent Laeeth Isharc <laeeth laeeth.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 20:09:37 UTC, Basile B. wrote:

 On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 18:44:20 UTC, Basile B. wrote:

 On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 11:13:20 UTC, Russel Winder 
 wrote:

 Laeeth,

 I hope you are now feeling well after your foray with 
 Covid-19, and especially that you do not have any signs at 
 all of "Long Covid".


 you've been infected Laeeth?


 I'have been By the the throat.
 My immune sustem just fought very well.


Sorry to hear that.  I hope you're better now.

Yes - I had it, and it was fine initially and then it wasn't so 
easy.  I don't think it would have gone very well if I hadn't 
prepared for certain deficiencies in our national health service 
and been able to treat myself.  I did have long covid but I am 
mostly better now.  Long covid is much more of a risk than death 
for most younger people.

You know it was interesting reading about the US politicians 
receiving a special briefing and then selling all their stocks. I 
thought to myself, if they had only read Reddit and followed some 
insightful people on Twitter they would have been by far better 
informed even in January.

So if we were able to prepare reasonably well so far this year 
then I owe it to social media and open source.
Oct 25 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent Guillaume Piolat <first.name guess.com> writes:
On Monday, 19 October 2020 at 23:34:50 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 https://github.com/symmetry-covid/personal-plan


 Laeeth


Interesting thanks for the experimentation! At this point Vit D 
seems like a good contender to lessen impact of COVID, as 
multiple studies have demonstrated. The adverse effect is likely 
inexistant as 60% of people are in need of more vit D anyway.
Oct 20 2020
prev sibling parent Laeeth Isharc <laeeth laeeth.com> writes:
Paper I co-authored on decision-making under uncertainty and 
vitamin D.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/346423180_Vitamin_D_and_COVID-19_Is_There_a_Lack_of_RiskReward_Understanding_Among_Health_Authorities
Nov 28 2020