• Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) (11/11) Apr 20 2017 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago...
• Timon Gehr (2/13) Apr 20 2017 It's not just you. I have the same issues.
• lawrence (3/21) Apr 20 2017 I used to have this same problem, until I sent the server settings to
• David Gileadi (3/10) Apr 20 2017 I don't have this problem, but my server settings check every 2 minutes
• Nick B (2/12) Apr 20 2017 the browser access is very fast as an alternative.
• drug (2/4) Apr 20 2017 Affirmative
• captaindet (6/9) Apr 20 2017 same here, started several weeks ago, very annoying.
• captaindet (2/4) Apr 21 2017 correction: this seems to help quite a bit, got only one connection
• =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= (8/19) Apr 20 2017 Started happening more in recent weeks.
• Vladimir Panteleev (4/12) Apr 21 2017 It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log
• Mike Wey (6/22) Apr 21 2017 Ok, here is an Wireshark export of the error and a few successful
• Mike Wey (7/29) Aug 01 2017 The errors seem to be getting more frequent lately. But i nog also get
• =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= (6/10) Aug 01 2017 Is there a better (lightweight, more stable, etc.) Thunderbird? A couple...
• H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d (14/16) Aug 01 2017 [...]
• Kagamin (1/1) Aug 02 2017 Sylpheed?
• Schrom, Brian T via Digitalmars-d (4/11) Aug 02 2017 +1 for Mutt. davmail (for exchange)+offlineimap make for a terrific

"Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa)" <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:

Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago 
(IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:

When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a 
10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when 
attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further 
attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I 
hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back, 
which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few 
messages later).

*Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.

Timon Gehr <timon.gehr gmx.ch> writes:

On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:

 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

 But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further
 attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I
 hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back,
 which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few
 messages later).

 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.

It's not just you. I have the same issues.

lawrence <lawrence.hemsley gmail.com> writes:

On 04/20/2017 02:09 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
 On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this
 problem?:

 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

 But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further
 attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I
 hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back,
 which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few
 messages later).

 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local
 issue.

 It's not just you. I have the same issues.

I used to have this same problem, until I sent the server settings to 
check for updates every 2 minutes.

David Gileadi <gileadisNOSPM gmail.com> writes:

On 4/20/17 2:05 PM, lawrence wrote:
 On 04/20/2017 02:09 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
 On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 [snip]

 It's not just you. I have the same issues.

 I used to have this same problem, until I sent the server settings to 
 check for updates every 2 minutes.

I don't have this problem, but my server settings check every 2 minutes 
as well.

Nick B <nick.barbalich gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 21:16:38 UTC, David Gileadi wrote:
 On 4/20/17 2:05 PM, lawrence wrote:
 On 04/20/2017 02:09 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
 On 20.04.2017 21:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 [snip]

 It's not just you. I have the same issues.

 I used to have this same problem, until I sent the server 
 settings to check for updates every 2 minutes.

 I don't have this problem, but my server settings check every 2 
 minutes as well.

the browser access is very fast as an alternative.

drug <drug2004 bk.ru> writes:

20.04.2017 22:45, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) пишет:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:

Affirmative

captaindet <2krnk gmx.net> writes:

 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

same here, started several weeks ago, very annoying.

i have used the same local config/settings for years w/o probs, also, 
have NOT upgraded thunderbird, so the issue must be on the server side.

tried the 'check for new messages every 2 minutes' hotfix suggestion 
(was set to 10), but it does not help in my case.

/det

captaindet <2krnk gmx.net> writes:

 tried the 'check for new messages every 2 minutes' hotfix suggestion
 (was set to 10), but it does not help in my case.

correction: this seems to help quite a bit, got only one connection 
refused since.

=?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:

On 04/20/2017 12:45 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
 Using Thunderbird to access this NG, but as of about a couple months ago
 (IIRC), this problem started happening. Anybody else having this problem?:

 When I try to select a new unread message to read, I've got roughly a
 10% or so chance that it'll fail with a "The connection was refused when
 attempting to contact news.digitalmars.com:119."

 But here's the weird thing: Once that error DOES occur, then ALL further
 attempts to download/view a new post fail with the same error...until I
 hit "Get Messages" or switch to a different sub-forum and then back,
 which consistently fixes the issue (until it happens again a few
 messages later).

 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.

Started happening more in recent weeks.

I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a 
newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last 
couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another D 
newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the 
failed one; then it always succeeds.

Ali

Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 23:37:25 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy 
 local issue.

 Started happening more in recent weeks.

 I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on 
 a newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in 
 the last couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to 
 click on another D newsgroup to make a successful connection 
 and then come back to the failed one; then it always succeeds.

It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log 
(e.g. with Wireshark) of the problem. The information therein 
could be the first step towards diagnosing the problem.

Mike Wey <mike-wey example.com> writes:

On 04/21/2017 10:27 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
 On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 23:37:25 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local 
 issue.

 Started happening more in recent weeks.

 I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a 
 newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last 
 couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another 
 D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the 
 failed one; then it always succeeds.

 
 It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log (e.g. 
 with Wireshark) of the problem. The information therein could be the 
 first step towards diagnosing the problem.
 

Ok, here is an Wireshark export of the error and a few successful 
packets beforehand. Hopefully this gives some insight in whats going on.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6DxRRR3v-n9QzhtZmNEbUQzWmM

-- 
Mike Wey

Mike Wey <mike-wey example.com> writes:

On 21-04-17 19:03, Mike Wey wrote:
 On 04/21/2017 10:27 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
 On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 23:37:25 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
 *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local 
 issue.

 Started happening more in recent weeks.

 I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a 
 newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last 
 couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on 
 another D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come 
 back to the failed one; then it always succeeds.

 It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log (e.g. 
 with Wireshark) of the problem. The information therein could be the 
 first step towards diagnosing the problem.

 
 Ok, here is an Wireshark export of the error and a few successful 
 packets beforehand. Hopefully this gives some insight in whats going on.
 
 https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6DxRRR3v-n9QzhtZmNEbUQzWmM

The errors seem to be getting more frequent lately. But i nog also get 
these errors on the GtkD newsgroup (vibenews) so it might be a 
Thunderbird issue.

Is anybody getting the errors with a different client?

-- 
Mike Wey

=?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:

On 08/01/2017 09:58 AM, Mike Wey wrote:

 The errors seem to be getting more frequent lately. But i nog also get
 these errors on the GtkD newsgroup (vibenews) so it might be a
 Thunderbird issue.

 Is anybody getting the errors with a different client?

Is there a better (lightweight, more stable, etc.) Thunderbird? A couple 
of weeks ago it could not open my Yahoo Inbox any more, so I had to add 
my account again.

Perhaps I should get used to reading news and email with Emacs already. :/

Ali

"H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d" <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:

On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 03:50:02PM -0700, Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[...]
 Perhaps I should get used to reading news and email with Emacs
 already. :/

[...]

I've been using Mutt for years, and quite happy with it.  There's a
version/patch floating around somewhere that has built-in NNTP support,
but IME it's a little klunky with high-traffic newsgroups.  I just use
the mailing list interface to the D forums, and things work perfectly.

The best part of using Mutt is that it has full threading support, so if
a particular topic doesn't interest you, you can delete the entire
(sub)thread with a single keystroke.  Indispensible for handling busy
forums like this one.


T

-- 
Freedom of speech: the whole world has no right *not* to hear my spouting off!

Kagamin <spam here.lot> writes:

Sylpheed?

"Schrom, Brian T via Digitalmars-d" <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:

On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 04:58:43PM -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 03:50:02PM -0700, Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 [...]
 Perhaps I should get used to reading news and email with Emacs
 already. :/

 [...]
 
 I've been using Mutt for years, and quite happy with it.

+1  for Mutt.  davmail (for  exchange)+offlineimap make  for a  terrific
combination (though  it takes  a day to  work through  configuration and
setup)