digitalmars.D - Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency.
- NX (1/1) Jan 20 2020 Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4
- Martin Tschierschke (2/3) Jan 20 2020 Cool. We should use this kind oft poll more often!
- H. S. Teoh (5/8) Jan 20 2020 I like how the current majority is the bikeshedding. :-D
- IGotD- (2/9) Jan 20 2020 I don't even understand the analogy.
- H. S. Teoh (19/32) Jan 20 2020 Here is the background:
- IGotD- (2/21) Jan 20 2020 Thank you for the explanation. I didn't expect a cynical slogan.
- Adam D. Ruppe (2/3) Jan 20 2020 I read it as saying "I don't care"....
- user1234 (7/11) Jan 20 2020 Indeed.
- H. S. Teoh (13/17) Jan 20 2020 Actually, I read that as "the yawn-worthy slogan".
- Patrick Schluter (2/5) Jan 21 2020 Same here.
- Mark (3/4) Jan 21 2020 If we're going for "write fast, read fast, and run fast",
- aberba (2/6) Jan 22 2020 I really liked the "yada yada yada" slogan 😀️
- Dejan Lekic (3/4) Jan 22 2020 I wish those three options fit the D programming languages, but
Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4
Jan 20 2020
On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote:Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4Cool. We should use this kind oft poll more often!
Jan 20 2020
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 06:24:34PM +0000, Martin Tschierschke via Digitalmars-d wrote:On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote:I like how the current majority is the bikeshedding. :-D T -- It won't be covered in the book. The source code has to be useful for something, after all. -- Larry WallLet's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4Cool. We should use this kind oft poll more often!
Jan 20 2020
On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 18:35:30 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 06:24:34PM +0000, Martin Tschierschke via Digitalmars-d wrote:I don't even understand the analogy.On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote:I like how the current majority is the bikeshedding. :-D TLet's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4Cool. We should use this kind oft poll more often!
Jan 20 2020
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 07:05:52PM +0000, IGotD- via Digitalmars-d wrote:On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 18:35:30 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:Here is the background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality http://bikeshed.com/ The exact quote "Once the bikeshed is up for painting, the rainbow won't suffice." is taken from one of Andrei's posts, where he expresses frustration at the frequent bikeshedding that goes on here over the most trivial of issues. What he meant is, no matter how trivial the issue is (what color should we paint the bikeshed, metaphorically speaking), people will debate it to the death, so even if you paint it in rainbow colors -- i.e., every possible color, ostensibly to satisfy everyone's preferences -- it still won't be enough to quell the complaints. Given how frequently this situation arises around here, it's kinda an in-joke to use that as our official motto, the joke being that that's what we D people like to do: argue over what color the bikeshed should be so much that even rainbow colors won't satisfy us. T -- Claiming that your operating system is the best in the world because more people use it is like saying McDonalds makes the best food in the world. -- Carl B. ConstantineOn Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 06:24:34PM +0000, Martin Tschierschke via Digitalmars-d wrote:I don't even understand the analogy.On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote:I like how the current majority is the bikeshedding. :-D TLet's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4Cool. We should use this kind oft poll more often!
Jan 20 2020
On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 19:38:53 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:Here is the background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality http://bikeshed.com/ The exact quote "Once the bikeshed is up for painting, the rainbow won't suffice." is taken from one of Andrei's posts, where he expresses frustration at the frequent bikeshedding that goes on here over the most trivial of issues. What he meant is, no matter how trivial the issue is (what color should we paint the bikeshed, metaphorically speaking), people will debate it to the death, so even if you paint it in rainbow colors -- i.e., every possible color, ostensibly to satisfy everyone's preferences -- it still won't be enough to quell the complaints. Given how frequently this situation arises around here, it's kinda an in-joke to use that as our official motto, the joke being that that's what we D people like to do: argue over what color the bikeshed should be so much that even rainbow colors won't satisfy us. TThank you for the explanation. I didn't expect a cynical slogan.
Jan 20 2020
On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 20:07:09 UTC, IGotD- wrote:Thank you for the explanation. I didn't expect a cynical slogan.I read it as saying "I don't care"....
Jan 20 2020
On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 20:11:40 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 20:07:09 UTC, IGotD- wrote:Indeed. "Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency" can be read as conservatism. It was the old slogan. The strong basement. "Write fast, Read fast, Run fast". can be read as orthodoxy. It's bullshit made for branding but as it's official you think it's right.Thank you for the explanation. I didn't expect a cynical slogan.I read it as saying "I don't care"....
Jan 20 2020
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 02:24:44AM +0000, user1234 via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]"Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency" can be read as conservatism. It was the old slogan. The strong basement.Actually, I read that as "the yawn-worthy slogan"."Write fast, Read fast, Run fast". can be read as orthodoxy. It's bullshit made for branding but as it's official you think it's right.And this is the cringe-worthy slogan. Given the choice between yawn-worthy and cringe-worthy, "Once the bikeshed is up for painting, even the rainbow won't suffice" sounds like the obvious answer. T -- In theory, software is implemented according to the design that has been carefully worked out beforehand. In practice, design documents are written after the fact to describe the sorry mess that has gone on before.
Jan 20 2020
Patrick Schluter <Patrick.Schluter bbox.fr> On Tuesday, 21 January 2020 at 03:39:58 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:Given the choice between yawn-worthy and cringe-worthy, "Once the bikeshed is up for painting, even the rainbow won't suffice" sounds like the obvious answer.Same here.
Jan 21 2020
On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote:Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4If we're going for "write fast, read fast, and run fast", shouldn't "compile fast" also be somewhere in there? :)
Jan 21 2020
On Tuesday, 21 January 2020 at 11:29:20 UTC, Mark wrote:On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote:I really liked the "yada yada yada" slogan 😀️Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4If we're going for "write fast, read fast, and run fast", shouldn't "compile fast" also be somewhere in there? :)
Jan 22 2020
On Wednesday, 22 January 2020 at 10:44:07 UTC, aberba wrote:On Tuesday, 21 January 2020 at 11:29:20 UTC, Mark wrote:yeah, I can see we have common references here ;)On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote:I really liked the "yada yada yada" slogan 😀️Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4If we're going for "write fast, read fast, and run fast", shouldn't "compile fast" also be somewhere in there? :)
Jan 22 2020
"write, read, run, compile, fast. ecosystem immature"
Jan 27 2020
On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote:Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4I wish those three options fit the D programming languages, but they do not. - Especially the first two...
Jan 22 2020