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reply Simen Haugen <simen norstat.no> writes:
I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of 
getting answers. If much of the questions on the learn newsgroup was 
asked there, there would be some free publicity.
Jun 25 2010
next sibling parent reply Justin Johansson <no spam.com> writes:
Simen Haugen wrote:

 I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of 
 getting answers. If much of the questions on the learn newsgroup was 
 asked there, there would be some free publicity.


That's a very good idea;  Simen's topic should not go unnoticed.

Question is then, how best would D learn questions be 
propagated/redirected to stackoverflow and possibly other better read sites?
Jun 25 2010
parent Ankh <IBuySpam spamforfree.com> writes:
In article <i026nh$bbs$1 digitalmars.com>, no spam.com says...
|
|Simen Haugen wrote:
|> I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of 
|> getting answers. If much of the questions on the learn newsgroup was 
|> asked there, there would be some free publicity.
|
|That's a very good idea; 

No it's not.

| Simen's topic should not go unnoticed.

If you only knew.

|Question is then, how best would D learn questions be 
|propagated/redirected to stackoverflow and possibly other better read sites?

'twas not the question at all grasshopper.
Jun 21 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Simen Haugen" <simen norstat.no> wrote in message 
news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...

 I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of getting 
 answers.


All I'm going to say is:
http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html

-------------------------------
Not sent from an iPhone.
Jun 25 2010
next sibling parent reply =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simen_Endsj=F8?= <simen.endsjo pandavre.com> writes:
On 25.06.2010 19:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

 "Simen Haugen"<simen norstat.no>  wrote in message
 news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...

 I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of getting
 answers.


 All I'm going to say is:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html

 -------------------------------
 Not sent from an iPhone.


Hehe. From this and other posts you make, it seems you are suffering 
from a serious case of the NIH syndrome :)
Jun 26 2010
next sibling parent reply BCS <none anon.com> writes:
Hello Simen,


 On 25.06.2010 19:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 

 "Simen Haugen"<simen norstat.no>  wrote in message
 news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
 

 I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of
 getting answers.
 


 All I'm going to say is:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html
 -------------------------------
 Not sent from an iPhone.


 Hehe. From this and other posts you make, it seems you are suffering
 from a serious case of the NIH syndrome :)
 


Why do you say that? After writing about half of that thread, I am of the 
opinion he holds his opinion for reason that have nothing to do worth NIH. 

-- 
... <IXOYE><
Jun 26 2010
parent reply retard <re tard.com.invalid> writes:
Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:26:19 +0000, BCS wrote:


 Hello Simen,
 

 On 25.06.2010 19:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 

 "Simen Haugen"<simen norstat.no>  wrote in message
 news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
 

 I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of
 getting answers.
 


 All I'm going to say is:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html
 -------------------------------
 Not sent from an iPhone.


 Hehe. From this and other posts you make, it seems you are suffering
 from a serious case of the NIH syndrome :)
 
 


 Why do you say that? After writing about half of that thread, I am of
 the opinion he holds his opinion for reason that have nothing to do
 worth NIH.


The sad fact is, there can't be many good stackoverflow kind of sites. 
You can perhaps attract some part of the community, e.g. noobs or d users 
in this case, but you can't beat stackoverflow anymore. What we had 
before? Expert-sexchange. All kinds of crap with closed source mentality. 
And national programming boards. Stackoverflow revolutionized things, you 
can't beat it. And no, writing the web server won't make it better/faster 
- it would just suck more. NIH.
Jun 26 2010
next sibling parent reply BCS <none anon.com> writes:
Hello retard,


 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:26:19 +0000, BCS wrote:
 

 Hello Simen,
 

 On 25.06.2010 19:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 

 "Simen Haugen"<simen norstat.no>  wrote in message
 news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
 

 I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of
 getting answers.
 


 All I'm going to say is:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.ht
 ml
 -------------------------------
 Not sent from an iPhone.


 Hehe. From this and other posts you make, it seems you are suffering
 from a serious case of the NIH syndrome :)
 


 Why do you say that? After writing about half of that thread, I am of
 the opinion he holds his opinion for reason that have nothing to do
 worth NIH.
 


 The sad fact is, there can't be many good stackoverflow kind of sites.
 You can perhaps attract some part of the community, e.g. noobs or d
 users in this case, but you can't beat stackoverflow anymore. What we
 had before? Expert-sexchange. All kinds of crap with closed source
 mentality. And national programming boards. Stackoverflow
 revolutionized things, you can't beat it. And no, writing the web
 server won't make it better/faster - it would just suck more. NIH.


I still don't see how that is NIH. The issues Nick brought up are
implementation 
issues (the use of OpenID, mandatory JavaScript, etc.) Under the constraints 
he has chosen to apply to him self, SO as implemented is effectively unusable. 
From what I remember, I suspect that if these issue were addressed Nick
wouldn't 
have any problem using SO.

-- 
... <IXOYE><
Jun 26 2010
next sibling parent reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"BCS" <none anon.com> wrote in message 
news:a6268ff15bf58cce33805255eea news.digitalmars.com...

 Hello retard,


 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:26:19 +0000, BCS wrote:


 Hello Simen,


 On 25.06.2010 19:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote:


 "Simen Haugen"<simen norstat.no>  wrote in message
 news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...


 I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of
 getting answers.


 All I'm going to say is:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.ht
 ml
 -------------------------------
 Not sent from an iPhone.


 Hehe. From this and other posts you make, it seems you are suffering
 from a serious case of the NIH syndrome :)


 Why do you say that? After writing about half of that thread, I am of
 the opinion he holds his opinion for reason that have nothing to do
 worth NIH.


 The sad fact is, there can't be many good stackoverflow kind of sites.
 You can perhaps attract some part of the community, e.g. noobs or d
 users in this case, but you can't beat stackoverflow anymore. What we
 had before? Expert-sexchange. All kinds of crap with closed source
 mentality. And national programming boards. Stackoverflow
 revolutionized things, you can't beat it. And no, writing the web
 server won't make it better/faster - it would just suck more. NIH.


 I still don't see how that is NIH. The issues Nick brought up are 
 implementation issues (the use of OpenID, mandatory JavaScript,


...JS nag banner...
...and no so much the use of OpenID, but the requirement of it for any login 
(and the consequential "pushing" of OpenID).


 etc.) Under the constraints he has chosen to apply to him self, SO as 
 implemented is effectively unusable. From what I remember, I suspect that 
 if these issue were addressed Nick wouldn't have any problem using SO.


Exactly. (As long as they didn't screw up something else in the process.)

And I did make [polite] suggestions for these improvements awhile back, but 
they were outright dismissed. It's clear they're not willing to fix any of 
it.

And for the record, the anti-NIH horse gets trotted out far too often, 
anyway. There used to be a well-known saying, "If you want something done 
right, you have to do it yourself." (Experience frequently demonstrates that 
to be true.) But then a bunch of managers (inherently stupid) and IT monkeys 
showed up that didn't know anything about software and decided the best 
thing to do in any conceivable situation is always to go out and buy 
whatever package some salesman is pitching no matter how crappy it is. And 
they defended their idiocy with a FUD-storm against anyone ever writing 
anything in-house. And it worked, and now all the buzzword sheep out there 
trot out that damn NIH garbage anytime there's a hint of someone wanting to 
write something that's similar to something else that exists but sucks. (And 
yes, of course there are extreme cases where NIH does occur to an absurd 
degree, but those cases are far less common than the anti-NIH brigade would 
[and does] have everyone believe.)
Jun 26 2010
parent Ankh <IBuySpam spamforfree.com> writes:
In article <i05i5n$1vrt$1 digitalmars.com>, a a.a says...
|
|"BCS" <none anon.com> wrote in message 
|news:a6268ff15bf58cce33805255eea news.digitalmars.com...
|> Hello retard,
|>
|>> Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:26:19 +0000, BCS wrote:
|>>
|>>> Hello Simen,
|>>>
|>>>> On 25.06.2010 19:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
|>>>>
|>>>>> "Simen Haugen"<simen norstat.no>  wrote in message
|>>>>> news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
|>>>>>
|>>>>>> I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of
|>>>>>> getting answers.
|>>>>>>
|>>>>> All I'm going to say is:
|>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.ht
|>>>>> ml
|>>>>> -------------------------------
|>>>>> Not sent from an iPhone.
|>>>> Hehe. From this and other posts you make, it seems you are suffering
|>>>> from a serious case of the NIH syndrome :)
|>>>>
|>>> Why do you say that? After writing about half of that thread, I am of
|>>> the opinion he holds his opinion for reason that have nothing to do
|>>> worth NIH.
|>>>
|>> The sad fact is, there can't be many good stackoverflow kind of sites.
|>> You can perhaps attract some part of the community, e.g. noobs or d
|>> users in this case, but you can't beat stackoverflow anymore. What we
|>> had before? Expert-sexchange. All kinds of crap with closed source
|>> mentality. And national programming boards. Stackoverflow
|>> revolutionized things, you can't beat it. And no, writing the web
|>> server won't make it better/faster - it would just suck more. NIH.
|>>
|>
|> I still don't see how that is NIH. The issues Nick brought up are 
|> implementation issues (the use of OpenID, mandatory JavaScript,
|
|...JS nag banner...
|...and no so much the use of OpenID, but the requirement of it for any login 
|(and the consequential "pushing" of OpenID).
|
|> etc.) Under the constraints he has chosen to apply to him self, SO as 
|> implemented is effectively unusable. From what I remember, I suspect that 
|> if these issue were addressed Nick wouldn't have any problem using SO.
|>
|
|Exactly. (As long as they didn't screw up something else in the process.)
|
|And I did make [polite] suggestions for these improvements awhile back, but 
|they were outright dismissed. It's clear they're not willing to fix any of 
|it.
|
|And for the record, the anti-NIH horse gets trotted out far too often, 
|anyway.

They sounded a bit like a charitable org to me, but "national", by 
defintion, cannot be so, and I know it. But "that aside", K. Gorlen's 
work is known and historical and paid for. Who is K. Gorlen?

( There used to be a well-known saying, "If you want something done 
|right, you have to do it yourself." (Experience frequently demonstrates that 
|to be true.) But then a bunch of managers (inherently stupid) and IT monkeys 
|showed up that didn't know anything about software and decided the best 
|thing to do in any conceivable situation is always to go out and buy 
|whatever package some salesman is pitching no matter how crappy it is. And 
|they defended their idiocy with a FUD-storm against anyone ever writing 
|anything in-house.

YMMV. You just described the stock market. You're a gambler, or not. The 
odds are stacked against you if you gamble. 


  And it worked, and now all the buzzword sheep out there 


|trot out that damn NIH garbage anytime there's a hint of someone wanting to 
|write something that's similar to something else that exists but sucks. (And 
|yes, of course there are extreme cases where NIH does occur to an absurd 
|degree, but those cases are far less common than the anti-NIH brigade would 
|[and does] have everyone believe.)

"to be honest", I knew the usage of 'NIH' was different than my 
knowledge, but not from the start of this thread (just now). So, what is 
"NIH"?
Jun 21 2010
prev sibling parent Ankh <IBuySpam spamforfree.com> writes:
In article <a6268ff15bf58cce33805255eea news.digitalmars.com>, 
none anon.com says...
|
|Hello retard,
|
|> Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:26:19 +0000, BCS wrote:
|> 
|>> Hello Simen,
|>> 
|>>> On 25.06.2010 19:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
|>>> 
|>>>> "Simen Haugen"<simen norstat.no>  wrote in message
|>>>> news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
|>>>> 
|>>>>> I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of
|>>>>> getting answers.
|>>>>> 
|>>>> All I'm going to say is:
|>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.ht
|>>>> ml
|>>>> -------------------------------
|>>>> Not sent from an iPhone.
|>>> Hehe. From this and other posts you make, it seems you are suffering
|>>> from a serious case of the NIH syndrome :)
|>>> 
|>> Why do you say that? After writing about half of that thread, I am of
|>> the opinion he holds his opinion for reason that have nothing to do
|>> worth NIH.
|>> 
|> The sad fact is, there can't be many good stackoverflow kind of sites.
|> You can perhaps attract some part of the community, e.g. noobs or d
|> users in this case, but you can't beat stackoverflow anymore. What we
|> had before? Expert-sexchange. All kinds of crap with closed source
|> mentality. And national programming boards. Stackoverflow
|> revolutionized things, you can't beat it. And no, writing the web
|> server won't make it better/faster - it would just suck more. NIH.
|>
|
|I still don't see how that is NIH. 

National Institute of Health. WTF?! (USA)
Jun 21 2010
prev sibling parent Ankh <IBuySpam spamforfree.com> writes:
In article <i05bgh$1hsh$1 digitalmars.com>, re tard.com.invalid says...
|
|Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:26:19 +0000, BCS wrote:
|
|> Hello Simen,
|> 
|>> On 25.06.2010 19:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
|>> 
|>>> "Simen Haugen"<simen norstat.no>  wrote in message
|>>> news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
|>>> 
|>>>> I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of
|>>>> getting answers.
|>>>> 
|>>> All I'm going to say is:
|>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html
|>>> -------------------------------
|>>> Not sent from an iPhone.
|>>
|>> Hehe. From this and other posts you make, it seems you are suffering
|>> from a serious case of the NIH syndrome :)
|>> 
|>> 
|> Why do you say that? After writing about half of that thread, I am of
|> the opinion he holds his opinion for reason that have nothing to do
|> worth NIH.
|
|The sad fact is, there can't be many good stackoverflow kind of sites. 

Hello, "retard" stating the obvious. (You are such a retard!).

|You can perhaps attract some part of the community, 

Whoa! Is there a glossary in here? What does "community" mean?

|e.g. noobs or d users 
|in this case, but you can't beat stackoverflow anymore. What we had 
|before? Expert-sexchange. All kinds of crap with closed source mentality. 
|And national programming boards. Stackoverflow revolutionized things, you 
|can't beat it. And no, writing the web server won't make it better/faster 
|- it would just suck more. NIH.

Retard, you are all over the map! Get a grip dude!
Jun 21 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Simen Endsjų" <simen.endsjo pandavre.com> wrote in message 
news:i04r76$2m13$1 digitalmars.com...

 On 25.06.2010 19:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

 "Simen Haugen"<simen norstat.no>  wrote in message
 news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...

 I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of 
 getting
 answers.


 All I'm going to say is:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html

 -------------------------------
 Not sent from an iPhone.


 Hehe. From this and other posts you make, it seems you are suffering from 
 a serious case of the NIH syndrome :)


NIH doesn't remotely enter into it. SH has become the de facto programmer QA 
site, and yet it decides that it is its own business to try to cram JS and 
OpenID down people's throats. That is unacceptable, period. And to "retard": 
Throwing one's hands up in the air and saying "Well, I'm not going to be 
able to change anything, so I'd better just bend down and take it" is 
exactly the attitude that allows bullshit like that to exist in the first 
place. Anyone with an attitude like that may as well be the one making the 
bone-headed design in the first place.
Jun 26 2010
prev sibling parent Ankh <IBuySpam spamforfree.com> writes:
In article <i04r76$2m13$1 digitalmars.com>, simen.endsjo pandavre.com 
says...
|
|On 25.06.2010 19:47, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
|> "Simen Haugen"<simen norstat.no>  wrote in message
|> news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
|>> I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of getting
|>> answers.
|>
|> All I'm going to say is:
|> http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html
|>
|> -------------------------------
|> Not sent from an iPhone.
|>
|>
|
|Hehe. From this and other posts you make, it seems you are suffering 
|from a serious case of the NIH syndrome :)

NIH to me = K. Gorlen's C++ class library. (Remember that?).
Jun 21 2010
prev sibling parent reply Ankh <IBuySpam spamforfree.com> writes:
In article <i02q36$1jds$1 digitalmars.com>, a a.a says...
|
|"Simen Haugen" <simen norstat.no> wrote in message 
|news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
|> I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of getting 
|> answers.
|
|All I'm going to say is:
|http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html
|

Yeah, like I'm stupid and gonna click on that virus.
Jun 21 2010
parent reply "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:32:24 -0400, Ankh <IBuySpam spamforfree.com> wrote:


 In article <i02q36$1jds$1 digitalmars.com>, a a.a says...
 |
 |"Simen Haugen" <simen norstat.no> wrote in message
 |news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
 |> I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of  
 getting
 |> answers.
 |
 |All I'm going to say is:
 |http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html
 |

 Yeah, like I'm stupid and gonna click on that virus.


Thanks for warning us.  I learned from McAfee online link scanner(TM) that  
the link in question contains the GoodTimes virus which destroys your  
entire hard drive, and will make your disk unusable!  It also sends an  
electric shock through your mouse!  Anyone clicking on that link is lucky  
to be alive!  Microsoft and Netscape both say this is the worst virus ever!

Thank goodness for diligent posters like you keeping us safe.

-Steve
Jun 28 2010
next sibling parent "Simen kjaeraas" <simen.kjaras gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:33:04 +0200, Steven Schveighoffer  
<schveiguy yahoo.com> wrote:


 On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:32:24 -0400, Ankh <IBuySpam spamforfree.com>  
 wrote:


 In article <i02q36$1jds$1 digitalmars.com>, a a.a says...
 |
 |"Simen Haugen" <simen norstat.no> wrote in message
 |news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
 |> I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of  
 getting
 |> answers.
 |
 |All I'm going to say is:
 |http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html
 |

 Yeah, like I'm stupid and gonna click on that virus.


 Thanks for warning us.  I learned from McAfee online link scanner(TM)  
 that the link in question contains the GoodTimes virus which destroys  
 your entire hard drive, and will make your disk unusable!  It also sends  
 an electric shock through your mouse!  Anyone clicking on that link is  
 lucky to be alive!  Microsoft and Netscape both say this is the worst  
 virus ever!

 Thank goodness for diligent posters like you keeping us safe.


Please don't feed the troll. Overweight trolls are such a nuisance.

-- 
Simen
Jun 28 2010
prev sibling parent "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:op.ve0c1egpeav7ka localhost.localdomain...

 On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:32:24 -0400, Ankh <IBuySpam spamforfree.com> wrote:


 In article <i02q36$1jds$1 digitalmars.com>, a a.a says...
 |
 |"Simen Haugen" <simen norstat.no> wrote in message
 |news:i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com...
 |> I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of 
 getting
 |> answers.
 |
 |All I'm going to say is:
 |http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg31735.html
 |

 Yeah, like I'm stupid and gonna click on that virus.


 Thanks for warning us.  I learned from McAfee online link scanner(TM) that 
 the link in question contains the GoodTimes virus which destroys your 
 entire hard drive, and will make your disk unusable!  It also sends an 
 electric shock through your mouse!  Anyone clicking on that link is lucky 
 to be alive!  Microsoft and Netscape both say this is the worst virus 
 ever!


Actually, it's this virus:
http://www.elyrics.net/read/w/weird-al-yankovic-lyrics/virus-alert-lyrics.html
Jun 28 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
Simen Haugen wrote:

 I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of 
 getting answers. If much of the questions on the learn newsgroup was 
 asked there, there would be some free publicity.


Here's where to put D questions: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/d
Jun 25 2010
prev sibling parent Ankh <IBuySpam spamforfree.com> writes:
In article <i01t9q$2oj8$1 digitalmars.com>, simen norstat.no says...
|
|I've just started using stackoverflow.com, and it's a great way of 
|getting answers. If much of the questions on the learn newsgroup was 
|asked there, there would be some free publicity.

OK, I did the "web newsgroup" thing that you referred to. Do tell (puh-
leeeze!), how that is "a great" anything.
Jun 21 2010