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reply Paul D. Anderson <paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> writes:
It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?

Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( 

Suspiciously,

Paul
Aug 17 2009
next sibling parent Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> writes:
Paul D. Anderson escribió:

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?


What? D isn't developed anymore. That's why there are no new posts...
Aug 17 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Jarrett Billingsley <jarrett.billingsley gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D.
Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?

 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(

 Suspiciously,

 Paul


Nah, it just means that - for the first time in what seems like weeks
- no one is bikeshedding.  ;)
Aug 17 2009
next sibling parent reply BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Jarrett,


 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D.
 Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is
 busy getting the new release ready?
 
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(
 
 Suspiciously,
 
 Paul
 


 Nah, it just means that - for the first time in what seems like weeks
 - no one is bikeshedding.  ;)
 


Green! Green I tell you! Green!
Aug 17 2009
next sibling parent downs <default_357-line yahoo.de> writes:
BCS wrote:

 Reply to Jarrett,
 

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D.
 Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is
 busy getting the new release ready?

 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(

 Suspiciously,

 Paul


 Nah, it just means that - for the first time in what seems like weeks
 - no one is bikeshedding.  ;)


 
 Green! Green I tell you! Green!
 
 


I just want to note again that Yellow has several highly desirable properties,
among them yellowness and resistence against Green Lanterns.

Not that anybody cares ..
Aug 18 2009
prev sibling parent reply "Simen Kjaeraas" <simen.kjaras gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:53:55 +0200, BCS <ao pathlink.com> wrote:


 Reply to Jarrett,


 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D.
 Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is
 busy getting the new release ready?
  Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(
  Suspiciously,
  Paul


 Nah, it just means that - for the first time in what seems like weeks
 - no one is bikeshedding.  ;)


 Green! Green I tell you! Green!


Octarine is the only worthy color for a bikeshed, and you should all
know that by now.

-- 
   Simen
Aug 19 2009
parent reply Daniel Keep <daniel.keep.lists gmail.com> writes:
Simen Kjaeraas wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:53:55 +0200, BCS <ao pathlink.com> wrote:
 

 Reply to Jarrett,


 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D.
 Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is
 busy getting the new release ready?
  Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(
  Suspiciously,
  Paul


 Nah, it just means that - for the first time in what seems like weeks
 - no one is bikeshedding.  ;)


 Green! Green I tell you! Green!


 
 Octarine is the only worthy color for a bikeshed, and you should all
 know that by now.


The only problem then is that the building has to have six walls (plus
the roof and floor) which makes it horribly inconvenient to carpet.
Aug 19 2009
parent reply Chad J <chadjoan __spam.is.bad__gmail.com> writes:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:

 
 Which, of course, begs the question: What color should the bikeshed's carpet 
 be? And what kind? Shag? Burbur (sp?)? With/without scotch-guarding?
 
 


No carpet.  Hard flooring all the way.  I'm going to go with wood
flooring.  No sense doing it unless you're going to do it right.
Aug 19 2009
next sibling parent Paul D. Anderson <paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> writes:
Chad J Wrote:


 Nick Sabalausky wrote:

 
 Which, of course, begs the question: What color should the bikeshed's carpet 
 be? And what kind? Shag? Burbur (sp?)? With/without scotch-guarding?
 
 


 
 No carpet.  Hard flooring all the way.  I'm going to go with wood
 flooring.  No sense doing it unless you're going to do it right.


Mmmm....that wouldl be "berber".

This is a shed, people! If there's a floor at all it's just plywood! CDX at
best.

But there's no point to this. Betelgeuse is going to go supernova any day now
anyway:
(http://blogs.discovery.com/space_disco/2009/06/warning-betelgeuse-is-shrinking-supernova-or-supernothing.html)

Or, more correctly, Betelgeuse has already gone supernova and the fiery waves
of destruction will arrive any day now!!

I say we paint the shed asbestos-colored.

Paul
Aug 20 2009
prev sibling parent reply BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Chad,


 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 

 Which, of course, begs the question: What color should the bikeshed's
 carpet be? And what kind? Shag? Burbur (sp?)? With/without
 scotch-guarding?
 


 No carpet.  Hard flooring all the way.  I'm going to go with wood
 flooring.  No sense doing it unless you're going to do it right.
 


It's a bike shed for crying out loud! Concrete slab is the only way to go.
Aug 20 2009
parent Daniel Keep <daniel.keep.lists gmail.com> writes:
BCS wrote:

 Reply to Chad,
 

 Nick Sabalausky wrote:


 Which, of course, begs the question: What color should the bikeshed's
 carpet be? And what kind? Shag? Burbur (sp?)? With/without
 scotch-guarding?


 No carpet.  Hard flooring all the way.  I'm going to go with wood
 flooring.  No sense doing it unless you're going to do it right.


 
 It's a bike shed for crying out loud! Concrete slab is the only way to go.


No; clearly the flooring should be made out of the same stuff they use
to make those super-bouncy balls.
Aug 21 2009
prev sibling parent reply Tim Matthews <tim.matthews7 gmail.com> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:


 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D.
 Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?

 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(

 Suspiciously,

 Paul


 
 Nah, it just means that - for the first time in what seems like weeks
 - no one is bikeshedding.  ;)


I hate that word. When ever anyone says any form of "bikeshed", Drink!
Aug 18 2009
parent reply "Lars T. Kyllingstad" <public kyllingen.NOSPAMnet> writes:
Tim Matthews wrote:

 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
 

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D.
 Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?

 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(

 Suspiciously,

 Paul


 Nah, it just means that - for the first time in what seems like weeks
 - no one is bikeshedding.  ;)


 
 I hate that word. When ever anyone says any form of "bikeshed", Drink!



Why? "Bikeshedding" is a perfectly fine word that means "dropping one's 
bike".

-Lars
Aug 19 2009
parent downs <default_357-line yahoo.de> writes:
Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote:

 Tim Matthews wrote:

 Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:


 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul D.
 Anderson<paul.d.removethis.anderson comcast.andthis.net> wrote:

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is
 busy getting the new release ready?

 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(

 Suspiciously,

 Paul


 Nah, it just means that - for the first time in what seems like weeks
 - no one is bikeshedding.  ;)


 I hate that word. When ever anyone says any form of "bikeshed", Drink!


 
 
 Why? "Bikeshedding" is a perfectly fine word that means "dropping one's
 bike".
 
 -Lars


Is it that time of autumn again, when programmers shed their bikes?

(Most people agree that the spectacle would be much more visually impressive if
they could just agree on a bike color before winter covers it all)
Aug 19 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent Robert Clipsham <robert octarineparrot.com> writes:
Paul D. Anderson wrote:

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?
 
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( 
 
 Suspiciously,
 
 Paul


I noticed that too! It's been quiet for the past week or so... having to 
find other things to do with my time :o
Aug 17 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Zhenyu Zhou <rinick gmail.com> writes:
Paul D. Anderson Wrote:


 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( 
 Suspiciously,
 
 Paul


http://erdani.org/

Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also there.
Aug 17 2009
parent reply Bill Baxter <wbaxter gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Zhenyu Zhou<rinick gmail.com> wrote:

 Paul D. Anderson Wrote:


 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(
 Suspiciously,

 Paul


 http://erdani.org/

 Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also there.


Bummer I wish I woulda known.  I might have gone to check it out.

I hope you rocked, Andrei.  Not sure how you managed it given the
number of posts here + new daddy status + writing TDPL status, but
doesn't seem like you were too worried.

--bb
Aug 17 2009
parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Zhenyu Zhou<rinick gmail.com> wrote:

 Paul D. Anderson Wrote:


 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(
 Suspiciously,

 Paul


 http://erdani.org/

 Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also there.


 
 Bummer I wish I woulda known.  I might have gone to check it out.
 
 I hope you rocked, Andrei.  Not sure how you managed it given the
 number of posts here + new daddy status + writing TDPL status, but
 doesn't seem like you were too worried.



I'm done!

www.erdani.org


Andrei
Aug 17 2009
next sibling parent Bill Baxter <wbaxter gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Andrei
Alexandrescu<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Zhenyu Zhou<rinick gmail.com> wrote:

 Paul D. Anderson Wrote:


 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is bu=








sy

 getting the new release ready?
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(
 Suspiciously,

 Paul


 http://erdani.org/

 Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also
 there.


 Bummer I wish I woulda known. =A0I might have gone to check it out.

 I hope you rocked, Andrei. =A0Not sure how you managed it given the
 number of posts here + new daddy status + writing TDPL status, but
 doesn't seem like you were too worried.



 I'm done!

 www.erdani.org


 Andrei



A hearty congrats to you!
And welcome to the club. ;-)
Have they taught you the handshake yet?

--bb, Ph.D.  :-P
Aug 17 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent Daniel de Kok <me danieldk.org> writes:
On Aug 18, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm done!



Congratulations! I hope you enjoy the relief ;). Still three years to  
go here (also in NLP, some machine learning).

-- Daniel
Aug 18 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Lars T. Kyllingstad" <public kyllingen.NOSPAMnet> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Zhenyu Zhou<rinick gmail.com> wrote:

 Paul D. Anderson Wrote:


 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is 
 busy getting the new release ready?
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(
 Suspiciously,

 Paul


 http://erdani.org/

 Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also 
 there.


 Bummer I wish I woulda known.  I might have gone to check it out.

 I hope you rocked, Andrei.  Not sure how you managed it given the
 number of posts here + new daddy status + writing TDPL status, but
 doesn't seem like you were too worried.


 
 
 I'm done!
 
 www.erdani.org
 
 
 Andrei



Congrats! Did your opponents give you a hard time?

Still two years to go, here. :)

-Lars
Aug 18 2009
parent Michiel Helvensteijn <m.helvensteijn.remove gmail.com> writes:
Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote:


 I'm done!


 Congrats! Did your opponents give you a hard time?


Congrats Andrei!


 Still two years to go, here. :)


Four here. I'm starting September 1 this year.

-- 
Michiel Helvensteijn
Aug 18 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu escribió:

 Bill Baxter wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Zhenyu Zhou<rinick gmail.com> wrote:

 Paul D. Anderson Wrote:


 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is 
 busy getting the new release ready?
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :(
 Suspiciously,

 Paul


 http://erdani.org/

 Andrei sustains his dissertation defense today. Maybe Walter is also 
 there.


 Bummer I wish I woulda known.  I might have gone to check it out.

 I hope you rocked, Andrei.  Not sure how you managed it given the
 number of posts here + new daddy status + writing TDPL status, but
 doesn't seem like you were too worried.


 
 
 I'm done!
 
 www.erdani.org
 
 
 Andrei


Congratulations!

Just don't enter the "now what?" panic state. :)
Aug 18 2009
prev sibling parent Piotrek <starpit tlen.pl> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu pisze:

 
 I'm done!
 
 www.erdani.org
 
 
 Andrei


Congratulations! Big beer for you!

Cheers
Piotrek
Aug 18 2009
prev sibling parent reply Jeremie Pelletier <jeremiep gmail.com> writes:
Paul D. Anderson Wrote:


 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?
 
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( 
 
 Suspiciously,
 
 Paul


It IS awfully quiet this week. I hope a new release is soon, I can't wait for
the shared qualifier to be working properly on classes and structs. The new
T[new] arrays are sexy too!
Aug 17 2009
next sibling parent reply Jason House <jason.james.house gmail.com> writes:
Jeremie Pelletier Wrote:


 Paul D. Anderson Wrote:
 

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?
 
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( 
 
 Suspiciously,
 
 Paul


 
 It IS awfully quiet this week. I hope a new release is soon, I can't wait for
the shared qualifier to be working properly on classes and structs. The new
T[new] arrays are sexy too!


I hope I'm not spoiling anything, but here are other things I know is going on:
1. An updated gdb patch was submitted. It was tested against the upcoming 2.032
release (and maybe the D1 equivalent?). Walter has made some tweaks to how
debug info is written.
2. Bartosz is rewriting thread related stuff. He has an upcoming blog on
reference counting which is part of his implementation. As part of this, I know
Bartosz got a few shared related bugs fixed. I'm unsure if they're in bugzilla
or not...
Aug 17 2009
next sibling parent MIURA Masahiro <echochamber gmail.com> writes:
Jason House wrote:

 I hope I'm not spoiling anything, but here are other things I know is going on:
 1. An updated gdb patch was submitted. It was tested against the upcoming
2.032 release (and maybe the D1 equivalent?). Walter has made some tweaks to
how debug info is written.
 2. Bartosz is rewriting thread related stuff. He has an upcoming blog on
reference counting which is part of his implementation. As part of this, I know
Bartosz got a few shared related bugs fixed. I'm unsure if they're in bugzilla
or not... 


Also "The real properties are coming soon", according to Walter.
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/99aea/reddit_what_programming_language_do_you/c0bwdq1
Aug 17 2009
prev sibling parent Jeremie Pelletier <jeremiep gmail.com> writes:
Jason House Wrote:


 Jeremie Pelletier Wrote:
 

 Paul D. Anderson Wrote:
 

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?
 
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( 
 
 Suspiciously,
 
 Paul


 
 It IS awfully quiet this week. I hope a new release is soon, I can't wait for
the shared qualifier to be working properly on classes and structs. The new
T[new] arrays are sexy too!


 
 I hope I'm not spoiling anything, but here are other things I know is going on:
 1. An updated gdb patch was submitted. It was tested against the upcoming
2.032 release (and maybe the D1 equivalent?). Walter has made some tweaks to
how debug info is written.
 2. Bartosz is rewriting thread related stuff. He has an upcoming blog on
reference counting which is part of his implementation. As part of this, I know
Bartosz got a few shared related bugs fixed. I'm unsure if they're in bugzilla
or not... 


Yeah I have been reading Bartosz's blog a lot lately, I especially liked his
entries on thin-locks and the use of shared qualifiers, which is why I can't
wait to toy with his concepts once D fully supports the primitives to implement
them.

The recent thread about CPUs/GPUs also is of big interest, I really like
Sweeney's concept of having four different processing models to form an
all-around framework. I will definitely be working on an implementation soon.
Aug 17 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent Jason House <jason.james.house gmail.com> writes:
Jeremie Pelletier Wrote:


 Paul D. Anderson Wrote:
 

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?
 
 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( 
 
 Suspiciously,
 
 Paul


 
 It IS awfully quiet this week. I hope a new release is soon, I can't wait for
the shared qualifier to be working properly on classes and structs. The new
T[new] arrays are sexy too!


I hope I'm not spoiling anything, but here are other things I know is going on:
1. An updated gdb patch was submitted. It was tested against the upcoming 2.032
release (and maybe the D1 equivalent?). Walter has made some tweaks to how
debug info is written.
2. Bartosz is rewriting thread related stuff. He has an upcoming blog on
reference counting which is part of his implementation. As part of this, I know
Bartosz got a few shared related bugs fixed. I'm unsure if they're in bugzilla
or not... 

(sorry in advance if my post appears multiple times, I'm having spotty service
with my cell phone)
Aug 17 2009
prev sibling parent reply Don <nospam nospam.com> writes:
Jeremie Pelletier wrote:

 Paul D. Anderson Wrote:
 

 It's awfully quiet on the newsgroup today. Does that mean Walter is busy
getting the new release ready?

 Or does it only mean I'm not getting new posts :( 

 Suspiciously,

 Paul


 
 It IS awfully quiet this week. I hope a new release is soon, I can't wait for
the shared qualifier to be working properly on classes and structs. The new
T[new] arrays are sexy too!


I'm pretty sure that T[new] arrays won't be in the next release. Or if 
they are, the release will be delayed for an long time still.
I have a couple of nice patches in the next release, so I'm hoping it 
won't be too far off. But I suspect it might be.

Walter also has his Compiler Construction Seminar coming up. I don't 
know if that is occupying much of his time. I hope he's had a holiday, too.
Aug 18 2009
next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Don wrote:

 I'm pretty sure that T[new] arrays won't be in the next release. Or if 
 they are, the release will be delayed for an long time still.
 I have a couple of nice patches in the next release, so I'm hoping it 
 won't be too far off. But I suspect it might be.


The next update will be largely another boatload of bug fixes. Not T[new].



 Walter also has his Compiler Construction Seminar coming up. I don't 
 know if that is occupying much of his time. I hope he's had a holiday, too.


I'm about 5/8 done preparing for it. There's still a lot of work.
Aug 18 2009
prev sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:


 Warnings As Errors) patch has made it in (or ever will for that matter). 
 That's one thing I've been really anxious to hear something about, even if 
 it's just "not likely to ever happen", so I know whether or not to plan a 
 more permanent workaround than my current "manually patch and recompile 
 every release". 



Adding a new switch means it'll have to be there for a long time 
(messing with peoples' makefiles is a bad thing). I'd like to avoid 
having a large number of compiler switches, and so would like more 
experience that such a switch is a compelling improvement.
Aug 18 2009