• Iliana Marquardt (8/8) Apr 09 I'm building a UI component library on top of gtk3 to aid and
• Dejan Lekic (9/14) Apr 09 I believe the best would be to start a thread in the GtkD support
• Jamie (4/12) Apr 12 Yes, you can use GTK4 in D. Although the GTK4 branch for the GtkD
• Ron Tarrant (15/16) Aug 04 Just FYI, gtk4 (compared to gtk3) dropped all responsibility for
• aberba (4/21) Aug 04 Isn't support by window managers only a matter of time?
• Ron Tarrant (10/12) Aug 07 I'm not well enough versed in that type of thing to say, really.

Iliana Marquardt <0904reg linksmonkey.com> writes:

I'm building a UI component library on top of gtk3 to aid and 
building good looking UI faster with few lines of code. Currently 
using Gtk-d (gtk3)

I know there's a gtk4 branch somewhere but doesn't seem to have 
gained much improvement a while now. I would much rather prefer 
going with the newest version of gtk, v4, rather than the soon to 
be phased out, v3

Is anyone able to use gtk4 in D?

Dejan Lekic <dejan.lekic gmail.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 at 09:15:18 UTC, Iliana Marquardt wrote:
 I know there's a gtk4 branch somewhere but doesn't seem to have 
 gained much improvement a while now. I would much rather prefer 
 going with the newest version of gtk, v4, rather than the soon 
 to be phased out, v3

 Is anyone able to use gtk4 in D?

I believe the best would be to start a thread in the GtkD support 
forum. There have been few individuals who tried to bring the v4 
branch up-to-date but it does not look like they were successful. 
It is unfair to expect Mike Wey to do everything - it should be a 
community effort. In fact, I humbly believe D Foundation should 
be involved as this is in my humble opinion one of the most 
important project in D ecosystem. GtkD is the most complete GUI 
toolkit for D, without any doubt.

Jamie <jamie652cordeiro outlook.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 at 09:15:18 UTC, Iliana Marquardt wrote:
 I'm building a UI component library on top of gtk3 to aid and 
 building good looking UI faster with few lines of code. 
 Currently using Gtk-d (gtk3)

 I know there's a gtk4 branch somewhere but doesn't seem to have 
 gained much improvement a while now. I would much rather prefer 
 going with the newest version of gtk, v4, rather than the soon 
 to be phased out, v3

 Is anyone able to use gtk4 in D?

Yes, you can use GTK4 in D. Although the GTK4 branch for the GtkD 
wrapper hasn’t been updated recently, GTK4 is still a C library 
and can be used directly from D.

Ron Tarrant <rontarrant gmail.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 at 09:15:18 UTC, Iliana Marquardt wrote:

 Is anyone able to use gtk4 in D?

Just FYI, gtk4 (compared to gtk3) dropped all responsibility for 
window placement (an application window opens in the same screen 
position where it was last closed). One of the devs told me it's 
because this type of thing should be handled by the OS's window 
manager (which, truthfully, it should). However, there is no 
window manager in Linux that will properly handle window position 
on a multi-monitor set-up.

There were other things that got dropped, but I don't recall what 
they were ATM. This one thing was enough for me to steer away 
from it.

And if you're interested in an OOP approach to GtkD (3, 
naturally) you might check out https://gtkdcoding.com. I put it 
all in the public domain, so feel free to use anything you find 
there.

aberba <karabutaworld gmail.com> writes:

On Sunday, 4 August 2024 at 07:45:50 UTC, Ron Tarrant wrote:
 On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 at 09:15:18 UTC, Iliana Marquardt 
 wrote:

 Is anyone able to use gtk4 in D?

 Just FYI, gtk4 (compared to gtk3) dropped all responsibility 
 for window placement (an application window opens in the same 
 screen position where it was last closed). One of the devs told 
 me it's because this type of thing should be handled by the 
 OS's window manager (which, truthfully, it should). However, 
 there is no window manager in Linux that will properly handle 
 window position on a multi-monitor set-up.

 There were other things that got dropped, but I don't recall 
 what they were ATM. This one thing was enough for me to steer 
 away from it.

Isn't support by window managers only a matter of time?

Like it was mentioned on that thread 
(https://discourse.gnome.org/t/how-to-center-gtkwindows-in-gtk4/3112/9)
windowing systems have gotten more complicated and also multiple monitors don't
make it easier either. So it's not an easy thing to do in such a way that it
works cross platform across all envs supported by gtk4. The only possible
chance of reliable implementation is using platform specific windowing managers
that support it. Like you said, none supports it well... probably because it's
a hard problem?

 And if you're interested in an OOP approach to GtkD (3, 
 naturally) you might check out https://gtkdcoding.com. I put it 
 all in the public domain, so feel free to use anything you find 
 there.

Ron Tarrant <rontarrant gmail.com> writes:

On Sunday, 4 August 2024 at 09:46:20 UTC, aberba wrote:
 [As] you said, none supports it well... probably because it's a 
 hard problem?

I'm not well enough versed in that type of thing to say, really. 
I've always assumed this lack was ecosystem specific or it's just 
not sexy enough as a coding problem for most volunteers to bother 
with. I say that because Windows doesn't seem to have this 
problem (I've never run into it) whereas Linux—in its many 
iterations—experiences more of a close-but-no-cigar situation.

Perhaps if dual-monitor set-ups had become the norm at some point 
in history—on alternative OS's anyway—this would have been 
resolved.