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reply "Janice Caron" <caron800 googlemail.com> writes:
OK, that Eclipse video looks so cool it makes me want to start using Descent.

So, I googled "Descent IDE", and found the Descent home page, where it
said: "Descent is an Eclipse plugin".

Of course I had absolutely no idea what Eclipse was, so I googled
"Eclipse IDE", and found the Eclipse Newcomers FAQ, where it said:

How can I get started using Eclipse?

Most people start by downloading one of the four different download packages:

   1. If you are a Java developer and need a Java IDE start with this package.
   2. If you are a Java developer creating Java EE application start
with this package.
   3. If you are a C/C++ developer and need a C/C++ IDE start with this package.
   4. If you are planning to build Eclipse plugins and/or RCP
applications start with this package.

At this point, I figured I'd better ask this forum for help, since I
want to do none of those four things.

Are there any detailed instructions on how to get Eclipse running,
starting from scratch, anywhere? If so, can you point me to them?
Oct 01 2007
next sibling parent Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> writes:
Janice Caron wrote:

 OK, that Eclipse video looks so cool it makes me want to start using Descent.
 
 So, I googled "Descent IDE", and found the Descent home page, where it
 said: "Descent is an Eclipse plugin".
 
 Of course I had absolutely no idea what Eclipse was, so I googled
 "Eclipse IDE", and found the Eclipse Newcomers FAQ, where it said:
 
 How can I get started using Eclipse?
 
 Most people start by downloading one of the four different download packages:
 
    1. If you are a Java developer and need a Java IDE start with this package.
    2. If you are a Java developer creating Java EE application start
 with this package.
    3. If you are a C/C++ developer and need a C/C++ IDE start with this
package.
    4. If you are planning to build Eclipse plugins and/or RCP
 applications start with this package.
 
 At this point, I figured I'd better ask this forum for help, since I
 want to do none of those four things.
 
 Are there any detailed instructions on how to get Eclipse running,
 starting from scratch, anywhere? If so, can you point me to them?


The whole eclipse thing is a bit bloated and sometimes use of 
terminology is confusing, but it is quite simple to use. Just select the 
first option and unzip it, then follow the instructions on the descent 
page on dsource. Now you'll have a java IDE too, can't help that...
Oct 01 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent Jari-Matti =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E4kel=E4?= <jmjmak utu.fi.invalid> writes:
Janice Caron wrote:


 Most people start by downloading one of the four different download
 packages:
 
    1. If you are a Java developer and need a Java IDE start with this
    package. 2. If you are a Java developer creating Java EE application
    start
 with this package.
    3. If you are a C/C++ developer and need a C/C++ IDE start with this
    package. 4. If you are planning to build Eclipse plugins and/or RCP
 applications start with this package.
 
 At this point, I figured I'd better ask this forum for help, since I
 want to do none of those four things.
 
 Are there any detailed instructions on how to get Eclipse running,
 starting from scratch, anywhere? If so, can you point me to them?


AFAIK the only differences between those versions are additional plugins. If
you're only developing D programs, you don't probably need those. YMMV, but
I've had the best success with the 3.4 milestones (ubuntu repos do not have

3.2 yet and 3.3 was buggy). Just install the SDK, then Descent via the


integrated update tool. If you need more plugins, they can be installed
with the same tool.

Here's a link to the latest release
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.4M2-200709210919/index.php
Oct 01 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent Ary Manzana <ary esperanto.org.ar> writes:
You can download the first one, as other said. I've added a link to 
www.eclipse.org in the "Eclipse" word in Descent's front page.

Note that the features I showed in that video are not in the current 
release: just in svn.

Janice Caron wrote:

 OK, that Eclipse video looks so cool it makes me want to start using Descent.
 
 So, I googled "Descent IDE", and found the Descent home page, where it
 said: "Descent is an Eclipse plugin".
 
 Of course I had absolutely no idea what Eclipse was, so I googled
 "Eclipse IDE", and found the Eclipse Newcomers FAQ, where it said:
 
 How can I get started using Eclipse?
 
 Most people start by downloading one of the four different download packages:
 
    1. If you are a Java developer and need a Java IDE start with this package.
    2. If you are a Java developer creating Java EE application start
 with this package.
    3. If you are a C/C++ developer and need a C/C++ IDE start with this
package.
    4. If you are planning to build Eclipse plugins and/or RCP
 applications start with this package.
 
 At this point, I figured I'd better ask this forum for help, since I
 want to do none of those four things.
 
 Are there any detailed instructions on how to get Eclipse running,
 starting from scratch, anywhere? If so, can you point me to them?
Oct 01 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Bruno Medeiros <brunodomedeiros+spam com.gmail> writes:
Janice Caron wrote:

 
 Of course I had absolutely no idea what Eclipse was, so I googled
 "Eclipse IDE", and found the Eclipse Newcomers FAQ, where it said:
 


What do you mean you never heard of Eclipse before??... O_O

-- 
Bruno Medeiros - MSc in CS/E student
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?BrunoMedeiros#D
Oct 02 2007
parent reply "Janice Caron" <caron800 googlemail.com> writes:
On 10/2/07, Bruno Medeiros <brunodomedeiros+spam com.gmail> wrote:

 What do you mean you never heard of Eclipse before??... O_O


Correct. Why? Do you imagine everyone on the planet has heard of everything?
Oct 02 2007
parent reply BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Janice,


 On 10/2/07, Bruno Medeiros <brunodomedeiros+spam com.gmail> wrote:
 

 What do you mean you never heard of Eclipse before??... O_O
 


 Correct. Why? Do you imagine everyone on the planet has heard of
 everything?
 


Not knowing what Eclipse is, is like not knowing about Saab. Yeah, they many 
not be the biggest car maker on the block (and there is nothing wrong with 
not knowing about them), but most people see Saabs on a halfway regular basis.
Oct 02 2007
parent reply "Janice Caron" <caron800 googlemail.com> writes:
On 10/2/07, BCS <ao pathlink.com> wrote:

 Not knowing what Eclipse is, is like not knowing about Saab.


This is a big planet and all of us have only the tinest experience of
it. You should never be surprised when something you encounter every
day is totally unknown to someone else. Moreover, it's a good idea to
be helpful in that circumstance, rather than critical. Everything is a
first experience once.

Saab - that's a sort of car, I take it? ;-)
Oct 02 2007
next sibling parent reply Nathan Reed <nathaniel.reed gmail.com> writes:
Janice Caron wrote:

 Saab - that's a sort of car, I take it? ;-)


I never heard of Saab either.  I'm guessing they're more common in 
Europe than the USA?
Oct 02 2007
next sibling parent reply BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Nathan,


 Janice Caron wrote:
 

 Saab - that's a sort of car, I take it? ;-)
 


 I never heard of Saab either.  I'm guessing they're more common in
 Europe than the USA?
 



Ok maybe I picked /to/ obscure an example. <g>

There a sweedish company that got started making jets
Oct 02 2007
next sibling parent B <b a.co.uk> writes:
BCS Wrote:


 Reply to Nathan,
 

 Janice Caron wrote:
 

 Saab - that's a sort of car, I take it? ;-)
 


 I never heard of Saab either.  I'm guessing they're more common in
 Europe than the USA?
 


 
 
 Ok maybe I picked /to/ obscure an example. <g>
 
 There a sweedish company that got started making jets
 


I would have gone with C++ user's who haven't heard of java and visa versa.
Still, a few of us die hard emacs users might as well have never
heard of eclipse.
Oct 02 2007
prev sibling parent Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
BCS wrote:

 Reply to Nathan,
 

 Janice Caron wrote:


 Saab - that's a sort of car, I take it? ;-)


 I never heard of Saab either.  I'm guessing they're more common in
 Europe than the USA?


 
 
 Ok maybe I picked /to/ obscure an example. <g>
 
 There a sweedish company that got started making jets


Nope they're plenty common in the USA.  My uncle used to have one.

--bb
Oct 02 2007
prev sibling parent Alexander Panek <a.panek brainsware.org> writes:
Nathan Reed wrote:

 Janice Caron wrote:

 Saab - that's a sort of car, I take it? ;-)


 
 I never heard of Saab either.  I'm guessing they're more common in 
 Europe than the USA?


Have you heard of Windows? Eclipse is almost as common [in at least the 
Java & surrounding world], I dare to assume.
Oct 02 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Janice,


 On 10/2/07, BCS <ao pathlink.com> wrote:
 

 Not knowing what Eclipse is, is like not knowing about Saab.
 


 This is a big planet and all of us have only the tinest experience of
 it. You should never be surprised when something you encounter every
 day is totally unknown to someone else. Moreover, it's a good idea to
 be helpful in that circumstance, rather than critical. Everything is a
 first experience once.
 


that is just about the exact point I was going for.


 Saab - that's a sort of car, I take it? ;-)
Oct 02 2007
prev sibling parent Bruno Medeiros <brunodomedeiros+spam com.gmail> writes:
Janice Caron wrote:

 On 10/2/07, BCS <ao pathlink.com> wrote:

 Not knowing what Eclipse is, is like not knowing about Saab.


 
 This is a big planet and all of us have only the tinest experience of
 it. You should never be surprised when something you encounter every
 day is totally unknown to someone else. Moreover, it's a good idea to
 be helpful in that circumstance, rather than critical. Everything is a
 first experience once.
 


Calm down, I wasn't exactly criticizing or anything.

It's just that I'd say that is *very* uncommon. Not *using* Eclipse is 
something else: some people prefer lightweight editors, other people use 
languages where Eclipse IDEs aren't that powerful, so they use other 
IDEs, and even for Java, there are people who prefer IntelliJ IDEA, or 
NetBeans(!), over Eclipse JDT. But not *knowing* about Eclipse, it's 
like... like never hearing about Ruby or something. Highly uncommon for 
someone who is a software developer (which I assume you are).

-- 
Bruno Medeiros - MSc in CS/E student
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?BrunoMedeiros#D
Oct 02 2007
prev sibling parent "Martin Fuchs" <martin-fuchs gmx.net> writes:
There are some nice tutorial about D including installation of Eclipse and 
Descent:

http://d.whosme.de/view_movie.php?movie=tutorials/7_Eclipse_Install/7_Eclipse_Install_en.swf&language=en



 At this point, I figured I'd better ask this forum for help, since I
 want to do none of those four things.

 Are there any detailed instructions on how to get Eclipse running,
 starting from scratch, anywhere? If so, can you point me to them?
Oct 03 2007