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digitalmars.D - GSOC 2018 - no slots for D

reply Jakub =?UTF-8?B?xYFhYmFq?= <uaaabbjjkl gmail.com> writes:
https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
Seems like we didn't make it this year :(

Is there any feedback from Google when they don't accept an 
organisation? Do you think that maybe they don't perceive D as a 
viable option or just the projects could have been defined better?
Feb 12 2018
next sibling parent psychoticRabbit <meagain meagain.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:20:57 UTC, Jakub Łabaj wrote:

 https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
 Seems like we didn't make it this year :(

 Is there any feedback from Google when they don't accept an 
 organisation? Do you think that maybe they don't perceive D as 
 a viable option or just the projects could have been defined 
 better?


Does D need GSoc to attract contibutors?

If so, then Google has achieved exactly what it wants to achieve.
Feb 12 2018
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Seb <seb wilzba.ch> writes:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:20:57 UTC, Jakub Łabaj wrote:

 https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
 Seems like we didn't make it this year :(

 Is there any feedback from Google when they don't accept an 
 organisation?


Zero feedback.


 Do you think that maybe they don't perceive D as a viable 
 option or just the projects could have been defined better?


Well, Google traditionally has a bias for projects or tools that 
they internally use (e.g. gRPC or Python).
According to them they also try to prefer projects which have 
never been a GSoC organization and if you browse the list there 
are quite a few "no-names" in there.
In the end its a very subjective decision and imho the 
application was a lot stronger than in 2016.

Anyhow, I'm really sorry that we didn't get accepted this year. 
Sometimes one just has bad luck :/

To give the bad news positives ones too: I'm currently 
investigating to extend the Research Scholarships [1] the D 
Language Foundation offers to students of the UPB to all students.
Nothing official yet, but there could be a DLang Winter of Code 
if everything works out ;-)

[1] https://dlang.org/foundation/upb-scholarship.html
Feb 12 2018
parent reply psychoticRabbit <meagain meagain.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:51:44 UTC, Seb wrote:

 To give the bad news positives ones too: I'm currently 
 investigating to extend the Research Scholarships [1] the D 
 Language Foundation offers to students of the UPB to all 
 students.
 Nothing official yet, but there could be a DLang Winter of Code 
 if everything works out ;-)

 [1] https://dlang.org/foundation/upb-scholarship.html


First, great if the D Foundation can take control of this itself, 
and not depend on GSoc.

Second, I don't get it. Are you saying D Foundation currently 
only provides such to students of UPB?
Feb 12 2018
parent reply Seb <seb wilzba.ch> writes:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:59:16 UTC, psychoticRabbit 
wrote:

 Second, I don't get it. Are you saying D Foundation currently 
 only provides such to students of UPB?


https://dlang.org/blog/2016/12/05/the-d-language-foundations-scholarship-program/

You gotta start somewhere ;-)
Feb 12 2018
parent reply psychoticRabbit <meagain meagain.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 02:12:10 UTC, Seb wrote:

 On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:59:16 UTC, psychoticRabbit 
 wrote:

 Second, I don't get it. Are you saying D Foundation currently 
 only provides such to students of UPB?


 https://dlang.org/blog/2016/12/05/the-d-language-foundations-scholarship-program/

 You gotta start somewhere ;-)


ok.. but I've never heard of UPB. Where is Romania anyway? Is 
that one of those little islands in the pacific?

In any case, I think it would be great if the foundation setup a 
process whereby everyday people can contribute funds to projects. 
Those projects need to be approved and costed. Funds upto those 
'per project costs' get accepted, then contributions are no 
longer accepted for that project - (otherwise contributions will 
exceed the cost of the project).

The projects once approved, could be published for people to see, 
and then people decide if they want to contribute. Then the 
commuinity of contributors essentially get to decide which 
projects are worthwhile - i.e those that get funded by 
contributors.

Essentially, crowd sourcing, and stop replying on big 
corporations to decide what is worthwhile and what is not.
Feb 12 2018
next sibling parent reply Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 02:38:28 UTC, psychoticRabbit 
wrote:


 In any case, I think it would be great if the foundation setup 
 a process whereby everyday people can contribute funds to 
 projects.


Stay tuned.
Feb 12 2018
parent "Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa)" <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On 02/12/2018 09:49 PM, Mike Parker wrote:

 On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 02:38:28 UTC, psychoticRabbit wrote:
 

 In any case, I think it would be great if the foundation setup a 
 process whereby everyday people can contribute funds to projects.


 
 Stay tuned.


Oh? I am anxiously not touching that dial...
Feb 12 2018
prev sibling parent bauss <jj_1337 live.dk> writes:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 02:38:28 UTC, psychoticRabbit 
wrote:

 On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 02:12:10 UTC, Seb wrote:

 On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:59:16 UTC, psychoticRabbit 
 wrote:

 Second, I don't get it. Are you saying D Foundation currently 
 only provides such to students of UPB?


 https://dlang.org/blog/2016/12/05/the-d-language-foundations-scholarship-program/

 You gotta start somewhere ;-)


 ok.. but I've never heard of UPB. Where is Romania anyway? Is 
 that one of those little islands in the pacific?

 In any case, I think it would be great if the foundation setup 
 a process whereby everyday people can contribute funds to 
 projects. Those projects need to be approved and costed. Funds 
 upto those 'per project costs' get accepted, then contributions 
 are no longer accepted for that project - (otherwise 
 contributions will exceed the cost of the project).

 The projects once approved, could be published for people to 
 see, and then people decide if they want to contribute. Then 
 the commuinity of contributors essentially get to decide which 
 projects are worthwhile - i.e those that get funded by 
 contributors.

 Essentially, crowd sourcing, and stop replying on big 
 corporations to decide what is worthwhile and what is not.


Romania is in Eastern Europe.
Feb 13 2018
prev sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 02/12/2018 08:20 PM, Jakub Łabaj wrote:

 https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
 Seems like we didn't make it this year :(
 
 Is there any feedback from Google when they don't accept an 
 organisation? Do you think that maybe they don't perceive D as a viable 
 option or just the projects could have been defined better?


Google does not provide feedback to rejected organizations. Far as I can 
imagine approval depends on a number of imponderables such as the person 
who does the review etc.

GSoC 2018 was not a considerable part of our plans so we are not 
affected negatively.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Seb who worked on the 
application. It was stronger than in past years (including those when 
we've been accepted).


Andrei
Feb 13 2018
next sibling parent psychoticRabbit <meagain meagain.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 13:33:00 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 On 02/12/2018 08:20 PM, Jakub Łabaj wrote:

 https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
 Seems like we didn't make it this year :(
 
 Is there any feedback from Google when they don't accept an 
 organisation? Do you think that maybe they don't perceive D as 
 a viable option or just the projects could have been defined 
 better?


 Google does not provide feedback to rejected organizations. Far 
 as I can imagine approval depends on a number of imponderables 
 such as the person who does the review etc.

 GSoC 2018 was not a considerable part of our plans so we are 
 not affected negatively.

 I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Seb who worked on 
 the application. It was stronger than in past years (including 
 those when we've been accepted).


 Andrei


just out of interest, is that application publicly available?

I just would be interested to see what it was about, that is all.
Feb 13 2018
prev sibling parent Craig Dillabaugh <craig.dillabaugh gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 13:33:00 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 On 02/12/2018 08:20 PM, Jakub Łabaj wrote:

 https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
 Seems like we didn't make it this year :(
 
 Is there any feedback from Google when they don't accept an 
 organisation? Do you think that maybe they don't perceive D as 
 a viable option or just the projects could have been defined 
 better?


 Google does not provide feedback to rejected organizations. Far 
 as I can imagine approval depends on a number of imponderables 
 such as the person who does the review etc.

 GSoC 2018 was not a considerable part of our plans so we are 
 not affected negatively.

 I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Seb who worked on 
 the application. It was stronger than in past years (including 
 those when we've been accepted).


 Andrei


I also want to thank Seb for the excellent work he did on this 
year's application. It looked really solid, so I am a bit 
disappointed it didn't get accepted, but I am sure D will carry 
on without Google's money just fine.  Being a big fan of 
conspiracy theories I personally think it was blocked by the Go 
folks :o)
Feb 13 2018