• Larry (13/13) Aug 01 2013 Hello,
• Russel Winder (20/38) Aug 01 2013 GCC is structured as front ends and backends. Different language front
• Olivier Pisano (12/12) Aug 01 2013 Currently, GCC (Gnu Compiler Collection) already handles C, C++,
• Larry (14/14) Aug 01 2013 Thank you !

"Larry" <deco33 hotmail.fr> writes:

Hello,

I read somewhere that gcd and gcc will be merged:
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/kyoredrrscclqziyaesp forum.dlang.org?page=1

But I cannot understand how different languages can use the same 
compiler.

D is not far from c/c++ but it has its own hacks, right ?

Are gdc devs developping D as close as c/c++ as possible ?

I cannot understand how it will work.

If someone could enlighten me on the logical and what to expect, 
please, tell me.

Many thanks,

See you,

Larry

Russel Winder <russel winder.org.uk> writes:

On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 10:12 +0200, Larry wrote:
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GCC is structured as front ends and backends. Different language front
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The backends determine what machine code is generated, so Intel, ARM,
etc. GCC is thus a compiler framework. one of the componenets is gcc the
C compiler one is g++ the C++ compiler on is gccgo for Go and gdc for D.

 D is not far from c/c++ but it has its own hacks, right ?

D is a long, long way from C++ thankfully!

 Are gdc devs developping D as close as c/c++ as possible ?

No.

 I cannot understand how it will work.

Hopefully the above is illuminating.

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"Olivier Pisano" <olivier.pisano laposte.net> writes:

Currently, GCC (Gnu Compiler Collection) already handles C, C++, 
Objective-C, Java, Fortran, Ada and Go.

This is done by dividing compilers in 2 : a front end component, 
which translates a source language (such as C or D) to an 
intermediate format, and a back end component, which takes stuff 
generated by the front end and creates a binary. All these 
languages have separate front ends, but share a common back end.

GDC reuses the GCC back end but is not an official GCC-related 
project. You don't get GDC when you download GCC. They are 
separate. When GCC devs make decision, they don't have to take D 
into account. Making things official should increase the 
visibility of D and its popularity.

"Larry" <deco33 hotmail.fr> writes:

Thank you !

Yes it is illuminating :)

So to sum up : when D devs say "We will merge with gcc" I should 
understand -> "We will bring our own interface to gcc, so that 
people installing gcc install D frontend as well".

The current main work is to adapt the D framework (gdc alone) to 
gcc to make it appliable with gcc rules.

Yes it is definitely clear it will help the D language.
At least, on debian for those using Sid (I will next week :) )

I get it right ?

Many many thanks to all of you guys, you rock taking your time 
explaining such things to a noob :)

See you,

Larry