digitalmars.D - Facebook, D and the web
- Chris (22/22) Mar 16 2015 In a recent thread[1] there was a lot of talk about how to make D
- Almighty Bob (11/19) Mar 16 2015 I use D as a scripting language now, with rdmd, I cant see how it
- Laeeth Isharc (9/31) Mar 16 2015 Having a way to do data analysis in a notebook like Ipython would
- "Marc =?UTF-8?B?U2Now7x0eiI=?= <schuetzm gmx.net> (6/27) Mar 16 2015 Facebook aside, I can see a use for an interpretable subset of D.
- Laeeth Isharc (8/39) Mar 16 2015 Bearophile seems to have changed his mind on this and could not
In a recent thread[1] there was a lot of talk about how to make D more attractive, how to communicate it's advantages to a broader audience etc. I was wondering, if Facebook would be interested in either developing or championing the development of a scripting language based on D that would be a. useful for in-house development at Facebook and b. for a broad audience of web developers. This would (ideally) be a language that: 1. is easy, even for non-programmers (like Lua and Python) 2. can be used to easily build web based UI apps (forms etc) 3. can be used for server-side programming and data analysis 4. is, of course, compatible with D and can be extended with modules written in D (and C for that matter) 5. runs on mobile platforms 6. may be able to interact with JS 7. is open source I don't know, if there is any demand for this at Facebook at the moment, but I could imagine that there is demand for a better web language in general. People keep mentioning "killer apps" for D and maybe a killer technology / framework would be even better. [1] http://forum.dlang.org/thread/mdtago$em9$1 digitalmars.com
Mar 16 2015
"Almighty Bob" <bob almighty.com> On Monday, 16 March 2015 at 14:47:15 UTC, Chris wrote:In a recent thread[1] there was a lot of talk about how to make D more attractive, how to communicate it's advantages to a broader audience etc. I was wondering, if Facebook would be interested in either developing or championing the development of a scripting language based on D that would be a. useful for in-house development at Facebook and b. for a broad audience of web developers. This would (ideally) be a language that:I use D as a scripting language now, with rdmd, I cant see how it needs much improvement in terms of how easy it is to just throw something together. Main issue for me is the terrible documentation and a feeling that a lot of stuff in the D std lib is trying to be everything to everyone. It read's like boost, you know it was made by smart people, and it is a work of art but it's a bit like a swiss army knife, cool when you first see it, looks really useful, but by the time you've got the right blade out I've already skinned the rabbit and got it roasting with my one blade pocket knife.
Mar 16 2015
On Monday, 16 March 2015 at 14:47:15 UTC, Chris wrote:In a recent thread[1] there was a lot of talk about how to make D more attractive, how to communicate it's advantages to a broader audience etc. I was wondering, if Facebook would be interested in either developing or championing the development of a scripting language based on D that would be a. useful for in-house development at Facebook and b. for a broad audience of web developers. This would (ideally) be a language that: 1. is easy, even for non-programmers (like Lua and Python) 2. can be used to easily build web based UI apps (forms etc) 3. can be used for server-side programming and data analysis 4. is, of course, compatible with D and can be extended with modules written in D (and C for that matter) 5. runs on mobile platforms 6. may be able to interact with JS 7. is open source I don't know, if there is any demand for this at Facebook at the moment, but I could imagine that there is demand for a better web language in general. People keep mentioning "killer apps" for D and maybe a killer technology / framework would be even better. [1] http://forum.dlang.org/thread/mdtago$em9$1 digitalmars.comHaving a way to do data analysis in a notebook like Ipython would be very nice indeed. At the moment your best option is calling D from Julia or Python. D REPL won't cut the mustard because you want persistent state to be able to iteratively explore large data sets without reloading from disc every time you enter a new command. You could use a RAM disk, but that's still very clumsy. I disagree with the other poster that the standard library is bloated. It just needs better docs.
Mar 16 2015
On Monday, 16 March 2015 at 14:47:15 UTC, Chris wrote:In a recent thread[1] there was a lot of talk about how to make D more attractive, how to communicate it's advantages to a broader audience etc. I was wondering, if Facebook would be interested in either developing or championing the development of a scripting language based on D that would be a. useful for in-house development at Facebook and b. for a broad audience of web developers. This would (ideally) be a language that: 1. is easy, even for non-programmers (like Lua and Python) 2. can be used to easily build web based UI apps (forms etc) 3. can be used for server-side programming and data analysis 4. is, of course, compatible with D and can be extended with modules written in D (and C for that matter) 5. runs on mobile platforms 6. may be able to interact with JS 7. is open source I don't know, if there is any demand for this at Facebook at the moment, but I could imagine that there is demand for a better web language in general. People keep mentioning "killer apps" for D and maybe a killer technology / framework would be even better.Facebook aside, I can see a use for an interpretable subset of D. It could be used in templates, for example for vibe.d. These could then be loaded at runtime, leading to faster development (no need to recompile if just a template is changed). In release mode, they could still be precompiled.
Mar 16 2015
On Monday, 16 March 2015 at 16:26:10 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote:On Monday, 16 March 2015 at 14:47:15 UTC, Chris wrote:Bearophile seems to have changed his mind on this and could not retract it. But is this not something technically possible and commercially desirable? One would want to maintain a long running state though, and I guess there are GC questions given the decision to trade off memory usage for compilation speed. (He suggests exposing CTFE engine as a D interpreter). http://forum.dlang.org/thread/j0k3id$1rq2$1 digitalmars.comIn a recent thread[1] there was a lot of talk about how to make D more attractive, how to communicate it's advantages to a broader audience etc. I was wondering, if Facebook would be interested in either developing or championing the development of a scripting language based on D that would be a. useful for in-house development at Facebook and b. for a broad audience of web developers. This would (ideally) be a language that: 1. is easy, even for non-programmers (like Lua and Python) 2. can be used to easily build web based UI apps (forms etc) 3. can be used for server-side programming and data analysis 4. is, of course, compatible with D and can be extended with modules written in D (and C for that matter) 5. runs on mobile platforms 6. may be able to interact with JS 7. is open source I don't know, if there is any demand for this at Facebook at the moment, but I could imagine that there is demand for a better web language in general. People keep mentioning "killer apps" for D and maybe a killer technology / framework would be even better.Facebook aside, I can see a use for an interpretable subset of D. It could be used in templates, for example for vibe.d. These could then be loaded at runtime, leading to faster development (no need to recompile if just a template is changed). In release mode, they could still be precompiled.
Mar 16 2015