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reply Flade <consolemaster0 gmail.com> writes:
I want to suggest some things (for the switch and the foreach 
loop) and I was wondering, just the developers take suggestions? 
And if yes, did the made anything that someone else suggested?
Aug 17 2020
next sibling parent reply Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy gmail.com> writes:
On 8/17/20 12:50 PM, Flade wrote:

 I want to suggest some things (for the switch and the foreach loop) and 
 I was wondering, just the developers take suggestions? And if yes, did 
 the made anything that someone else suggested?


It never hurts to ask here. Though if you are new to D, you mean find 
that your suggestions are already covered. What are your suggestions?

-Steve
Aug 17 2020
parent reply Flade <consolemaster0 gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 17 August 2020 at 17:00:54 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:

 On 8/17/20 12:50 PM, Flade wrote:

 I want to suggest some things (for the switch and the foreach 
 loop) and I was wondering, just the developers take 
 suggestions? And if yes, did the made anything that someone 
 else suggested?


 It never hurts to ask here. Though if you are new to D, you 
 mean find that your suggestions are already covered. What are 
 your suggestions?

 -Steve


Thanks a lot for the quick answer! Maybe my suggestions are 
covered (yes I'm actually new to D) but thanks a lot for 
listening! I will actually talk for the switch statement now.

First and most importantly I would say to automatically break in 
each case because from my personal experience, this is what we do 
all the time. Also D let's you cover ranges so if you want for 
example to switch in (x) and cover cases 1 through 5, you would 
do "case 1: .. case 5:" so in D specifically there is no reason 
to not break automatically. Also there is the "goto" statement to 
be used with switch statements so even if someone needs to check 
another case in a rare scenario, we are covered! If there is 
something I don't know or I don't understand here please forgive 
me and correct me!

Second, there is a small detail. You see I think that when 
covering ranges, we should change the syntax a little bit.

Current is
case 1: .. case 6:
It will be better to become
case 1 .. case 6:
Or even better
case 1 .. 6:

Of course this is just how it looks better to me but I also 
believe that it combines and fits better with the way we cover 
some specif cases which is done with: "case 1,3,4,7" and for me 
it makes sense that we don't repeat the word "case" multiple 
times.

So yeah that was me suggestions. I'm new to D and I'm in LOVE 
with the language!!! It just wanted to try to help with something 
even if it's just some small details and of course I want mind if 
this things won't be made. Thanks a lot for your time and effort 
sir!
Aug 17 2020
parent reply oddp <oddp posteo.de> writes:
Hi there! Sorry, have to keep it short.


 First and most importantly I would say to automatically break in each case


Nothing new, folks already discussed this suggestion over ten years ago, when
D2, the current 
language version, was still fresh. You can check it out here: 
https://forum.dlang.org/post/hdr46b$1770$1 digitalmars.com

In short: "either behave like C, or raise a compile-time error".


 Or even better
 case 1 .. 6:


This is covered in the FAQ: https://dlang.org/articles/faq.html#case_range
Aug 17 2020
next sibling parent Flade <consolemaster0 gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 17 August 2020 at 21:50:18 UTC, oddp wrote:

 Hi there! Sorry, have to keep it short.


 First and most importantly I would say to automatically break 
 in each case


 Nothing new, folks already discussed this suggestion over ten 
 years ago, when D2, the current language version, was still 
 fresh. You can check it out here: 
 https://forum.dlang.org/post/hdr46b$1770$1 digitalmars.com

 In short: "either behave like C, or raise a compile-time error".


 Or even better
 case 1 .. 6:


 This is covered in the FAQ: 
 https://dlang.org/articles/faq.html#case_range


Oh! So I suppose the developers just don't agree and don't want 
to do this things?
Aug 18 2020
prev sibling parent Flade <consolemaster0 gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 17 August 2020 at 21:50:18 UTC, oddp wrote:

 Hi there! Sorry, have to keep it short.


 First and most importantly I would say to automatically break 
 in each case


 Nothing new, folks already discussed this suggestion over ten 
 years ago, when D2, the current language version, was still 
 fresh. You can check it out here: 
 https://forum.dlang.org/post/hdr46b$1770$1 digitalmars.com

 In short: "either behave like C, or raise a compile-time error".


 Or even better
 case 1 .. 6:


 This is covered in the FAQ: 
 https://dlang.org/articles/faq.html#case_range


Forget my previous comment! I understand anything now. Thanks a 
lot for your time!
Aug 18 2020
prev sibling parent reply Paul Backus <snarwin gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 17 August 2020 at 16:50:52 UTC, Flade wrote:

 I want to suggest some things (for the switch and the foreach 
 loop) and I was wondering, just the developers take 
 suggestions? And if yes, did the made anything that someone 
 else suggested?


The official, formal way to suggest a language change is to write 
a D Improvement Proposal, or "DIP" [1]: a document that describes 
the proposed change along with the rationale behind it. Every 
major change to the D language has to go through this process, 
even changes made by Walter Bright, the creator of D.

Writing a DIP is a lot of work, though, so it's a good idea to 
discuss your suggestions with other members of the D community on 
the forums first. There are a lot of smart people here with ideas 
for how D could be improved, so you're very likely to get useful 
feedback.

[1] https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/
Aug 17 2020
parent Flade <consolemaster0 gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 17 August 2020 at 17:04:22 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:

 On Monday, 17 August 2020 at 16:50:52 UTC, Flade wrote:

 I want to suggest some things (for the switch and the foreach 
 loop) and I was wondering, just the developers take 
 suggestions? And if yes, did the made anything that someone 
 else suggested?


 The official, formal way to suggest a language change is to 
 write a D Improvement Proposal, or "DIP" [1]: a document that 
 describes the proposed change along with the rationale behind 
 it. Every major change to the D language has to go through this 
 process, even changes made by Walter Bright, the creator of D.

 Writing a DIP is a lot of work, though, so it's a good idea to 
 discuss your suggestions with other members of the D community 
 on the forums first. There are a lot of smart people here with 
 ideas for how D could be improved, so you're very likely to get 
 useful feedback.

 [1] https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/


Thanks a lot for the answer! I listed me suggestions here (see 
the comments) and as you can see, it's not something important 
(well the first thing is a little bit tbh) just some small 
details (tho as people say, details is what makes best) so I 
think I'll first take some opinions to see what other people say.
Aug 17 2020