• Walter Bright (1/1) Jan 12 2009 http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=520302
• Michael P. (2/3) Jan 12 2009 Yah, D exposure! :)
• Tim M (4/7) Jan 12 2009 Its all negative exposure though. I hate it when I keep reading D is dea...
• Mike Parker (10/15) Jan 12 2009 These threads pop on on GDNet every couple of months or so. They also
• John Reimer (9/28) Jan 12 2009 While some of the posts are frustratingly ignorant, I have to admit that...
• Tim M (10/11) Jan 18 2009 I had another look at that thread today and noticed a post that says "D ...
• Bill Baxter (10/21) Jan 18 2009 Read the whole thread. The guy is just being a doofus. He says "it's
• Jarrett Billingsley (3/11) Jan 18 2009 Lol, he even says at one point that D is "less type safe than Python."
• Nick Sabalausky (10/22) Jan 18 2009 I just read though and think I know what he means, and made a reply to t...

Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:

http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=520302

Michael P. <baseball.mjp gmail.com> writes:

Walter Bright Wrote:

 http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=520302

Yah, D exposure! :)

"Tim M" <a b.com> writes:

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:20:03 +1300, Michael P. <baseball.mjp gmail.com>  
wrote:

 Walter Bright Wrote:

 http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=520302

 Yah, D exposure! :)


Its all negative exposure though. I hate it when I keep reading D is dead  
sort of messages. On this news group it is so alive.

Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:

Michael P. wrote:
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=520302

 
 Yah, D exposure! :)

These threads pop on on GDNet every couple of months or so. They also 
posted a sample chapter from Learn to Tango with D. The exposure is an 
ongoing thing.

It's unfortunate that a few prominent posters will always jump into 
these threads and diss D without much consideration. No telling how many 
minds they poison when they do, given that the lion's share of the GDNet 
audience are largely inexperienced. They'll take as gospel what anyone 
with a high rating says. So when they do pop up, it's good to get a few 
advocates in there to counter the misinformation.

John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:

Hello Mike,

 Michael P. wrote:
 
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=520302
 

 Yah, D exposure! :)
 

 These threads pop on on GDNet every couple of months or so. They also
 posted a sample chapter from Learn to Tango with D. The exposure is an
 ongoing thing.
 
 It's unfortunate that a few prominent posters will always jump into
 these threads and diss D without much consideration. No telling how
 many minds they poison when they do, given that the lion's share of
 the GDNet audience are largely inexperienced. They'll take as gospel
 what anyone with a high rating says. So when they do pop up, it's good
 to get a few advocates in there to counter the misinformation.
 


While some of the posts are frustratingly ignorant, I have to admit that 
quite a few of the complaints against D are actually valid ones.  What's 
good to see, however, is the level-headed response that you, Tom S. and Bill 
Baxter offer in support of D.  Admit where it is weak; defend where it is 
strong.  I'm sure people will get their noses out of joint anyway... but 
your responses are much more likely to calm the storm and funnel the
conversation 
into a more fair analysis. 

-JJR

"Tim M" <a b.com> writes:

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:15:00 +1300, Walter Bright  
<newshound1 digitalmars.com> wrote:

 http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=520302

I had another look at that thread today and noticed a post that says "D  
doesn't have static type checking".


Wikipedia says "A programming language is said to use static typing when  
type checking is performed during compile-time as opposed to run-time.  
Examples of languages that use static typing include .. C, C++, ......"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_system#Static_typing

Should I just ignore that forum post or can someone clarify.

Bill Baxter <wbaxter gmail.com> writes:

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tim M <a b.com> wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:15:00 +1300, Walter Bright
 <newshound1 digitalmars.com> wrote:

 http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=520302

 I had another look at that thread today and noticed a post that says "D
 doesn't have static type checking".


 Wikipedia says "A programming language is said to use static typing when
 type checking is performed during compile-time as opposed to run-time.
 Examples of languages that use static typing include .. C, C++, ......"
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_system#Static_typing

 Should I just ignore that forum post or can someone clarify.

Read the whole thread.  The guy is just being a doofus.  He says "it's
not static type checking" and then later says that the definition
above on Wikipedia is just "one of two definitions of static type
checking", and he's using the other one.  Well ok dude, in that case
you were just deliberately ignoring the other (more mainstream)
definition in order to be a pain in the butt.

Feel free to reply if you don't think he made it obvious in his later
replies that he's just trying to be annoying and pedantic.

---bb

"Jarrett Billingsley" <jarrett.billingsley gmail.com> writes:

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Bill Baxter <wbaxter gmail.com> wrote:
 Read the whole thread.  The guy is just being a doofus.  He says "it's
 not static type checking" and then later says that the definition
 above on Wikipedia is just "one of two definitions of static type
 checking", and he's using the other one.  Well ok dude, in that case
 you were just deliberately ignoring the other (more mainstream)
 definition in order to be a pain in the butt.

 Feel free to reply if you don't think he made it obvious in his later
 replies that he's just trying to be annoying and pedantic.

Lol, he even says at one point that D is "less type safe than Python."
 Uh, what?  That doesn't hold true in any case.

"Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:

"Jarrett Billingsley" <jarrett.billingsley gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:mailman.441.1232294002.22690.digitalmars-d puremagic.com...
 On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Bill Baxter <wbaxter gmail.com> wrote:
 Read the whole thread.  The guy is just being a doofus.  He says "it's
 not static type checking" and then later says that the definition
 above on Wikipedia is just "one of two definitions of static type
 checking", and he's using the other one.  Well ok dude, in that case
 you were just deliberately ignoring the other (more mainstream)
 definition in order to be a pain in the butt.

 Feel free to reply if you don't think he made it obvious in his later
 replies that he's just trying to be annoying and pedantic.

 Lol, he even says at one point that D is "less type safe than Python."
 Uh, what?  That doesn't hold true in any case.

I just read though and think I know what he means, and made a reply to that 
effect (but also pointing out why he's still wrong).

The fact that all of that garbage is coming from an apperent *staff* member 
doesn't appear to speak very highly for gamedev.net. (But then again, 
neither does TANSTAAF. I met him in person one time; couldn't believe how 
much of an ass he was. Not a "thinks-he-knows-it-all" ass like this guy, but 
just the regular kind of ass. But then, maybe he was just having a bad day 
*shrug*.)