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reply "AJ" <aj nospam.net> writes:
Is D about to go commercial? I mean, in the form of a book or a series of 
books? Is the seeming disarray of the language, the ng, the "community", the 
inventor because the goal is to capitalize on book sales? I'm a prick, of 
course, but I would like to know.

I was being facetious above. (But if the shoe fits, wear it!). Walter, how 
much money do you have? Nevermind that. Are you rich though? I am poor. 
Someone said D bought you a Ferrari. How many of those does one person need? 
If this book sells, are you going to give to each and every poster in this 
ng a fair portion? (Don't worry your pretty little head Walter about such 
stuff ;) If I had (just) a compiler, I'd ... die an old man with a compiler.

All the above questions are rhetorical. (Read, I'm not really a prick, I 
just play one on the internet!).

My first Big D post!
Nov 14 2009
next sibling parent reply Don <nospam nospam.com> writes:
AJ wrote:

 Is D about to go commercial? I mean, in the form of a book or a series of 
 books? Is the seeming disarray of the language, the ng, the "community", the 
 inventor because the goal is to capitalize on book sales? I'm a prick, of 
 course, but I would like to know.
 
 I was being facetious above. (But if the shoe fits, wear it!). Walter, how 
 much money do you have? Nevermind that. Are you rich though? I am poor. 
 Someone said D bought you a Ferrari.


That's completely false. Nobody is making any money from D.
Nov 14 2009
parent reply "AJ" <aj nospam.net> writes:
I don't believe you.


 Don wrote:
 AJ wrote:

 Is D about to go commercial? I mean, in the form of a book or a
 series of books? Is the seeming disarray of the language, the ng,
 the "community", the inventor because the goal is to capitalize on
 book sales? I'm a prick, of course, but I would like to know.

 I was being facetious above. (But if the shoe fits, wear it!).
 Walter, how much money do you have? Nevermind that. Are you rich
 though? I am poor. Someone said D bought you a Ferrari.


 That's completely false. Nobody is making any money from D.
Nov 16 2009
parent reply Mike Farnsworth <mike.farnsworth gmail.com> writes:
AJ Wrote:


 I don't believe you.
 

 Don wrote:
 AJ wrote:

 Is D about to go commercial? I mean, in the form of a book or a
 series of books? Is the seeming disarray of the language, the ng,
 the "community", the inventor because the goal is to capitalize on
 book sales? I'm a prick, of course, but I would like to know.

 I was being facetious above. (But if the shoe fits, wear it!).
 Walter, how much money do you have? Nevermind that. Are you rich
 though? I am poor. Someone said D bought you a Ferrari.


 That's completely false. Nobody is making any money from D. 




AJ, I have no intention of offending you or anyone else, but something needs to
be made clear.  A more productive thing for you to do is contribute to some
aspect of D or its available libraries and make it succeed such that you can
make money off of it yourself via resume enhancement and adding to your
portfolio.  Demanding a handout is, let's just say, not very effective.  I saw
a few of your other posts, and I would posit that you are an intelligent person
who can make a positive impact by writing some code or otherwise helping out.

It doesn't matter in the slightest whether you believe Don or not.  Walking on
to some NG and essentially calling people liars tends to just reflect poorly on
you, but you already knew that.

I want to assist where I can whether or not Walter, Andrei, Don, or anyone else
is or isn't making money off of D.  I am free to use it, so what they do with
it is none of my concern.  I don't want anyone to "share" any money with me,
because I can work and earn my own keep.  Making money off of your own hard
work and (gasp!) keeping it for some time period is the opposite of a sin. 
That's called a 'job.'  And Walter is doing a great job, as far as I've seen.

-Mike
Nov 16 2009
parent "AJ" <aj nospam.net> writes:
Mike Farnsworth wrote:

 AJ, I have no intention of offending you


Oh go ahead and give it a go. Suppressing stuff is bad, catharsis is good. 
I'm tough and I don't think there is anyone who can really offend me. Save 
for those who capitalize on other people's efforts. Or those who manipulate 
systems to there own advantage. Or imposing people. Or condescending people. 
Or politicians. Or vultures. Or cat lovers. ;)


 or anyone else, but
 something needs to be made clear.  A more productive thing for you to
 do is contribute to some aspect of D or its available libraries and
 make it succeed such that you can make money off of it yourself via
 resume enhancement and adding to your portfolio.


So you're in recruiting huh (yes, it is apparent).


  Demanding a handout
 is, let's just say, not very effective.


Surely you're not insinuating that _I_ want something?


 I saw a few of your other
 posts, and I would posit that you are an intelligent person who can
 make a positive impact by writing some code or otherwise helping out.


Sounds like a road to the poorhouse and dying on the streets homeless.


 It doesn't matter in the slightest whether you believe Don or not.


What matters is that it may matter to people who are toiling on/with D, 
where the spoils are going to or will be going to.


 Walking on to some NG and essentially calling people liars tends to
 just reflect poorly on you, but you already knew that.


I didn't call anyone a liar. (Which is comical in itself, for everyone lies. 
Except me of course.)


 I want to assist where I can whether or not Walter, Andrei, Don, or
 anyone else is or isn't making money off of D.


Unpaid labor is nirvana huh.


 I am free to use it,


But you don't own it.


 so what they do with it is none of my concern.  I don't want anyone
 to "share" any money with me, because I can work and earn my own
 keep.


Similarly, you don't want anyone exploiting you and not paying you for your 
wares, surely.


 Making money off of your own hard work and (gasp!) keeping it
 for some time period is the opposite of a sin.  That's called a
 'job.'  And Walter is doing a great job, as far as I've seen.


Time will tell.

I think C++ and D are historical things to examine and use parts from. The 
programming language junkyards or museums, if you will. As an inventor, I 
wonder if there is anything there that I can use in my next invention. Maybe 
because my impressions of D come from the newsgroup I think that, but it 
does eerily seem to be one of those IT Dept. projects gone awry: 10 years 
and it's still only 10% complete? Why do we keeping throwing effort into 
it?!

( ;) Just a tad facetious ).
Nov 20 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"AJ" <aj nospam.net> wrote in message news:hdo281$1cua$1 digitalmars.com...

 I was being facetious above.


Speaking of facetiousness:

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
  - Inigo Montoya
Nov 14 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Tim Matthews <tim.matthews7 gmail.com> writes:
AJ wrote:

 Is D about to go commercial?


D is not intended as a scam for someones profit but a good language and 
if somebody profits as a side effect then so be it.


 I mean, in the form of a book or a series of 
 books? Is the seeming disarray of the language, the ng, the "community", the 
 inventor because the goal is to capitalize on book sales? I'm a prick, of 
 course, but I would like to know.


Andrei (a lot of work on phobos) is working on a book titled "The D 
programming language". He will make money but the D community will 
benefit a lot more in non financial ways from the release of this book.


 
 I was being facetious above. (But if the shoe fits, wear it!). Walter, how 
 much money do you have? Nevermind that. Are you rich though?


Walter has other forms of income which you will need to consider before 
you estimate his profit from D. Infact I doubt he has made much at all 
from D other than the lectures.


 I am poor.
 Someone said D bought you a Ferrari. How many of those does one person need? 
 If this book sells, are you going to give to each and every poster in this 
 ng a fair portion?


GTFO.

(Don't worry your pretty little head Walter about such

 stuff ;) If I had (just) a compiler, I'd ... die an old man with a compiler.


I doubt you've hit puberty.


 All the above questions are rhetorical. (Read, I'm not really a prick, I 
 just play one on the internet!).
 
 My first Big D post! 
 


I've seen you post quite a few posts lately here. Please spend some more 
time looking up the answers before you rush to this NG from now on.
Nov 14 2009
parent reply "AJ" <aj nospam.net> writes:
Tim Matthews wrote:

 AJ wrote:

 Is D about to go commercial?


 D is not intended as a scam for someones profit


Oh? Is it the current direction. Oh, yeah, bill gates is stupid (I think 
so).

I hate being smart.
Nov 16 2009
parent reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"AJ" <aj nospam.net> wrote in message news:hdr79b$1cms$1 digitalmars.com...

 Tim Matthews wrote:

 AJ wrote:

 Is D about to go commercial?


 D is not intended as a scam for someones profit


 Oh? Is it the current direction. Oh, yeah, bill gates is stupid (I think 
 so).


....That came straight out of left-field.


 I hate being smart.


Great, sounds like you don't have much to worry about.
Nov 16 2009
parent reply Tim Matthews <tim.matthews7 gmail.com> writes:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:

 "AJ" <aj nospam.net> wrote in message news:hdr79b$1cms$1 digitalmars.com...

 Tim Matthews wrote:

 AJ wrote:

 Is D about to go commercial?


 D is not intended as a scam for someones profit


 Oh? Is it the current direction. Oh, yeah, bill gates is stupid (I think 
 so).


 
 ....That came straight out of left-field.
 

 I hate being smart.


 
 Great, sounds like you don't have much to worry about.
 
 


A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a 
fool. -- William Shakespeare.
Nov 17 2009
parent reply Chris Nicholson-Sauls <ibisbasenji gmail.com> writes:
Tim Matthews wrote:

 Nick Sabalausky wrote:

 "AJ" <aj nospam.net> wrote in message 
 news:hdr79b$1cms$1 digitalmars.com...

 Tim Matthews wrote:

 AJ wrote:

 Is D about to go commercial?


 D is not intended as a scam for someones profit


 Oh? Is it the current direction. Oh, yeah, bill gates is stupid (I 
 think so).


 ....That came straight out of left-field.


 I hate being smart.


 Great, sounds like you don't have much to worry about.


 
 A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a 
 fool. -- William Shakespeare.


I know that I know nothing. -- Socrates, c. 399 BCE

Shakespeare was such a plagiarist.
Nov 18 2009
parent Justin Johansson <no spam.com> writes:
Chris Nicholson-Sauls wrote:

 Tim Matthews wrote:

 A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a 
 fool. -- William Shakespeare.


 
 I know that I know nothing. -- Socrates, c. 399 BCE
 
 Shakespeare was such a plagiarist.


Billy Shakes, Billy Gates, what's the diff?

nothing .. both plagiarists
Nov 18 2009
prev sibling parent Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> writes:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:06:10 -0600, AJ wrote:


 I'm a prick, of course


By George! I think he's right.


-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
skype: derek.j.parnell
Nov 15 2009