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reply Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 

Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
The best critic is the most schooled in the subject

Heres the first from a very poor explanation of rebuild on its website
8 	rebuild foo/foo.d -offood
9 	
10 	In this example, a program called fooD is compiled with the main source file
11 	being foo/foo.d.

http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss/browser/trunk/rebuild/README
Mar 10 2008
next sibling parent reply Alexander Panek <alexander.panek brainsware.org> writes:
Ty Tower wrote:

 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject
 
 Heres the first from a very poor explanation of rebuild on its website
 8 	rebuild foo/foo.d -offood
 9 	
 10 	In this example, a program called fooD is compiled with the main source
file
 11 	being foo/foo.d.
 
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss/browser/trunk/rebuild/README


Why exactly do you think you are "the most schooled in this subject", 
and what exactly is "very poor" in above explanation? Please elaborate, 
"schooled".
Mar 10 2008
parent reply Yigal Chripun <yigal100 gmail.com> writes:
Alexander Panek wrote:

 Ty Tower wrote:

 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through
 bits and pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject

 Heres the first from a very poor explanation of rebuild on its website
 8     rebuild foo/foo.d -offood
 9    
 10     In this example, a program called fooD is compiled with the
 main source file
 11     being foo/foo.d.

 http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss/browser/trunk/rebuild/README


 Why exactly do you think you are "the most schooled in this subject",
 and what exactly is "very poor" in above explanation? Please
 elaborate, "schooled".


I wouldn't waste time on him if I were you.
from all his posts to the NG it's evident that he's not a polite person,
and does not appreciate the work being done by the community and made
available free of charge. there's a saying -  "Never look a gift horse
in the mouth", which comes to mind.
if he didn't understand something, there's a proper way to ask questions
without insulting the people who worked hard to provide the software he
uses free of charge.
anyway, if he'll continue to pollute the environment and this NG, I'll
just add a filter to my newsreader. It takes less than a minute and it
really is time well spent. I suggest you do the same.
-- Yigal
Mar 10 2008
parent reply novice2 <sorry noem.ail> writes:
Yigal Chripun Wrote:


 ...from all his posts to the NG...
 ...and this NG, ...


i am very sorry, can enybody explain me, what is "NG"?
thanx.

sorry for offtopic
Mar 10 2008
parent Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> writes:
novice2 wrote:

 Yigal Chripun Wrote:
 

 ...from all his posts to the NG...
 ...and this NG, ...


 
 i am very sorry, can enybody explain me, what is "NG"?
 thanx.
 
 sorry for offtopic


NewsGroup
Mar 10 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
Ty Tower Wrote:


 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject
 


Here is another I have just made a change on

There is no note that I have found about Dsss /Rebuilds default action of
rebuilding all files if the dsss.conf file is changed

http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DSSS#section5
Mar 10 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
Ty Tower Wrote:


 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject


 
There is nowhere I have found that lists down what the completed file structur
should look like  for  dsss  dmd or dwt. I am using Tango and I would like to
compare my file structure to the official one .

Thats extra maintenance I suppose but surely this could be automated.
Mar 10 2008
parent reply jcc7 <technocrat7 gmail.com> writes:
== Quote from Ty Tower (tytower hotmail.com.au)'s article


 There is nowhere I have found that lists down what the completed
 file structur should look like  for  dsss  dmd or dwt. I am using
 Tango and I would like to compare my file structure to the official
 one .


What's a "completed file structur"? Perhaps if you posted what your "completed
file structur" is, someone might give a suggestion of whether it looks right or
whether it could be improved.



 Thats extra maintenance I suppose but surely this could be
 automated.


Perhaps you would offer to write a program to automate this documentation.
Mar 11 2008
parent reply Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
jcc7 wrote:


 == Quote from Ty Tower (tytower hotmail.com.au)'s article
 

 There is nowhere I have found that lists down what the completed
 file structur should look like  for  dsss  dmd or dwt. I am using
 Tango and I would like to compare my file structure to the official
 one .


 
 What's a "completed file structur"? Perhaps if you posted what your
 "completed file structur" is, someone might give a suggestion of
 whether it looks right or whether it could be improved.
 
 

 Thats extra maintenance I suppose but surely this could be
 automated.


 
 Perhaps you would offer to write a program to automate this
 documentation.


Dickhead
Mar 11 2008
next sibling parent reply downs <default_357-line yahoo.de> writes:
Ty Tower wrote:

 jcc7 wrote:
 

 == Quote from Ty Tower (tytower hotmail.com.au)'s article


 There is nowhere I have found that lists down what the completed
 file structur should look like  for  dsss  dmd or dwt. I am using
 Tango and I would like to compare my file structure to the official
 one .


 What's a "completed file structur"? Perhaps if you posted what your
 "completed file structur" is, someone might give a suggestion of
 whether it looks right or whether it could be improved.



 Thats extra maintenance I suppose but surely this could be
 automated.


 Perhaps you would offer to write a program to automate this
 documentation.


 Dickhead


Does anybody know of a killfile feature or plugin for Thunderbird?

Any ideas highly appreciated. I need it kinda urgently (preferably before Ty
posts again).

 --downs
Mar 11 2008
next sibling parent reply BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Downs,


 Does anybody know of a killfile feature or plugin for Thunderbird?
 
 Any ideas highly appreciated. I need it kinda urgently (preferably
 before Ty posts again).
 
 --downs
 


tools-> "message filters" might work
Mar 11 2008
parent reply downs <default_357-line yahoo.de> writes:
BCS wrote:

 Reply to Downs,
 

 Does anybody know of a killfile feature or plugin for Thunderbird?

 Any ideas highly appreciated. I need it kinda urgently (preferably
 before Ty posts again).

 --downs


 
 tools-> "message filters" might work
 
 


I can't seem to apply message filters to NNTP server folders.

Am I missing something?
Mar 11 2008
parent BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Downs,


 BCS wrote:
 

 Reply to Downs,
 

 Does anybody know of a killfile feature or plugin for Thunderbird?
 
 Any ideas highly appreciated. I need it kinda urgently (preferably
 before Ty posts again).
 
 --downs
 


 tools-> "message filters" might work
 


 I can't seem to apply message filters to NNTP server folders.
 
 Am I missing something?
 


Pro'ly not. I've never tried it. I use Omea from jetbrains and It seems to 
have good filtering (I just set it up to ignore Ty so well see how good it 
is) and also does a better job of archiving posts for offline viewing.
Mar 11 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
downs Wrote:


 Ty Tower wrote:

 jcc7 wrote:
 

 == Quote from Ty Tower (tytower hotmail.com.au)'s article


 There is nowhere I have found that lists down what the completed
 file structur should look like  for  dsss  dmd or dwt. I am using
 Tango and I would like to compare my file structure to the official
 one .


 What's a "completed file structur"? Perhaps if you posted what your
 "completed file structur" is, someone might give a suggestion of
 whether it looks right or whether it could be improved.



 Thats extra maintenance I suppose but surely this could be
 automated.


 Perhaps you would offer to write a program to automate this
 documentation.


 Dickhead


 
 Does anybody know of a killfile feature or plugin for Thunderbird?
 
 Any ideas highly appreciated. I need it kinda urgently (preferably before Ty
posts again).
 
  --downs


Aaaargh    Too Late
Mar 11 2008
prev sibling parent Leandro Lucarella <llucax gmail.com> writes:
downs, el 11 de marzo a las 21:02 me escribiste:

 Ty Tower wrote:

 jcc7 wrote:
 

 == Quote from Ty Tower (tytower hotmail.com.au)'s article


 There is nowhere I have found that lists down what the completed
 file structur should look like  for  dsss  dmd or dwt. I am using
 Tango and I would like to compare my file structure to the official
 one .


 What's a "completed file structur"? Perhaps if you posted what your
 "completed file structur" is, someone might give a suggestion of
 whether it looks right or whether it could be improved.



 Thats extra maintenance I suppose but surely this could be
 automated.


 Perhaps you would offer to write a program to automate this
 documentation.


 Dickhead


 
 Does anybody know of a killfile feature or plugin for Thunderbird?
 
 Any ideas highly appreciated. I need it kinda urgently (preferably before Ty
posts again).


It's as simple as start NOT responding the posts.

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Mar 11 2008
prev sibling parent reply "David Wilson" <dw botanicus.net> writes:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Tourettes Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> wrote:

 jcc7 wrote:

  > == Quote from Ty Tower (tytower hotmail.com.au)'s article
  >
  >> There is nowhere I have found that lists down what the completed
  >> file structur should look like  for  dsss  dmd or dwt. I am using
  >> Tango and I would like to compare my file structure to the official
  >> one .
  >
  > What's a "completed file structur"? Perhaps if you posted what your
  > "completed file structur" is, someone might give a suggestion of
  > whether it looks right or whether it could be improved.
  >
  >
  >>
  >> Thats extra maintenance I suppose but surely this could be
  >> automated.
  >
  > Perhaps you would offer to write a program to automate this
  > documentation.
  Dickhead


As the only non-contributing, continuously abusive person in the
community, wouldn't the dickhead here be you? You can feel free to
ignore others' pleas to calm down, but be aware that in the end the
only person you're hurting is yourself. Particularly, you may find it
appealing to tear your own hair out when it comes time to look for a
job when you grow up, as your prospective employer finds some of these
posts on Google. But you won't understand that either, people like you
are only capable of learning by bashing their own heads against the
wall.

Good luck,


David.
Mar 11 2008
parent Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
David Wilson Wrote:


 As the only non-contributing, continuously abusive person in the
 community, wouldn't the dickhead here be you? You can feel free to
 ignore others' pleas to calm down, but be aware that in the end the
 only person you're hurting is yourself. Particularly, you may find it
 appealing to tear your own hair out when it comes time to look for a
 job when you grow up, as your prospective employer finds some of these
 posts on Google. But you won't understand that either, people like you
 are only capable of learning by bashing their own heads against the
 wall.
 
 Good luck,
 
 
 David.


You are an assuming fool. I am contributing whether you reallise it or not . I
assure you I am calm and considerate until someone throws abuse at me or trys
to tell me what to do.
Then I will tell you and all others who act like you to go fuck yourself. 

I am not likely to need a job . I do not need money and I have no need to be Mr
Personality. I am here to learn and will do so despite any cry of outrage from
the likes of you.  I also have no need of luck . If the whim takes me I could
come look you up tomorrow. No problem.
Mar 15 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
Ty Tower Wrote:


 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject


This one probably should go into dwt but should be here as well as it relates
to the rebuild default action when the config file is changed

I attempted to dsss build the latest dwt-samples-200a229be5ca 

If something is wrong the compiler jumps out at that point , so a segment fault
or compiler error stops compilation of all of the other files in the
configuration file.
OK now thats not good if you have problems and this one did have .



It tells me that it is deleting files and lists all the files that it realy
hasn;t got to yet so they are not compiled. It tells me it is deleting them
anyway....inaccurate and silly

So that hasn't done me any time damage so on I go that way for about 4 more
goes to get what will compile done so I can have a look at them.

Now what I really want to pass on to someone ,perhaps a new looker, is the
following will not compile so don't expect them to if you are on Linux

dwtsnippets/opengl 
dwtsnippets/program
dwtsnippets/tray

dwtexamples/clipboard
dwtexamples/controlexample
dwtexamples/texteditor

user/dragdrop

Cheezy grins
Mar 11 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
Ty Tower Wrote:


 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject
 


This is extracted from the DSSS notes 
........................................................................................
== DEFAULT SETTINGS ==

It is possible to create default settings with a special "*" section. This is
most useful for settings such as 'buildflags':

[*]
buildflags=-O

Note that any settings in a named section will override those in "*" sections.
For example, in this situation:

[*]
buildflags=-O

[mydlib]
buildflags+=-release

mydlib's buildflags are only "-release".

........................................................................................

This is the dsss.conf file in dwt-samples-200a229be5ca

........................................................................................
[*]
debugflags+=-g -gc -debug...........so this is an overall default

#used for dwtsnippets/text/Snippet258
#dwtsnippets/expandbar/Snippet223
buildflags+=-Jdwtsnippets/images.......could not find these

version(Windows){
#buildflags+= -L/SUBSYSTEM:windows:5
    buildflags+= -L/SUBSYSTEM:console:5.......this is overall
}





#version(linux){

name


[dwtexamples/simple.d]
[dwtexamples/clipboard/ClipboardExample.d]
[dwtexamples/helloworld/HelloWorld1.d]
[dwtexamples/helloworld/HelloWorld2.d]
[dwtexamples/helloworld/HelloWorld3.d]
[dwtexamples/helloworld/HelloWorld4.d]
[dwtexamples/helloworld/HelloWorld5.d]

[dwtsnippets/button/Snippet293.d]
[dwtsnippets/combo/Snippet26.d]
[dwtsnippets/composite/Snippet9.d]
[dwtsnippets/coolbar/Snippet20.d]
[dwtsnippets/ctabfolder/Snippet165.d]
[dwtsnippets/directorydialog/Snippet33.d]
[dwtsnippets/expandbar/Snippet223.d]
[dwtsnippets/menu/Snippet29.d]
[dwtsnippets/menu/Snippet97.d]
[dwtsnippets/sash/Snippet107.d]
[dwtsnippets/styledtext/Snippet163.d]
[dwtsnippets/styledtext/Snippet189.d]
[dwtsnippets/table/Snippet38.d]
[dwtsnippets/table/Snippet144.d]
[dwtsnippets/text/Snippet258.d]
[dwtsnippets/tooltips/Snippet41.d]
[dwtsnippets/tray/Snippet143.d]
[dwtsnippets/tree/Snippet8.d]
[dwtsnippets/tree/Snippet15.d]
[dwtsnippets/program/Snippet32.d]

[user/dragdrop/texttolabel.d]
[user/drawingboard/DrawingBoard.d]
[user/torhu_synctest.d]

version(Derelict){
[dwtsnippets/opengl/Snippet195.d]
}

[dwtexamples/addressbook/AddressBook.d]
buildflags+=-g -gc -debug......................this is the default anyway
version(Windows){
    buildflags+= -L/SUBSYSTEM:console:5........so is this
}
buildflags+=-Jdwtexamples/addressbook

[dwtexamples/controlexample/ControlExample.d]
buildflags+=-g -gc -debug.......................same
version(Windows){
    buildflags+= -L/SUBSYSTEM:console:5.........same
}
buildflags+=-Jdwtexamples/controlexample
buildflags+=-version=CONTROL_EXAMPLE_MAIN

[dwtexamples/controlexample/CustomControlExample.d]
buildflags+=-g -gc -debug........................same
version(Windows){
    buildflags+= -L/SUBSYSTEM:console:5..........same
}
buildflags+=-Jdwtexamples/controlexample
buildflags+=-version=CUSTOM_CONTROL_EXAMPLE_MAIN

[dwtexamples/texteditor/TextEditor.d]
buildflags+=-g -gc -debug........................same
version(Windows){
    buildflags+= -L/SUBSYSTEM:console:5..........same.
}
buildflags+=-Jdwtexamples/texteditor
.......................................................................................

So this is how I think it should go and I might well be wrong as this is my
first look 
.......................................................................................


[*]
debugflags+=-g -gc -debug

#used for dwtsnippets/text/Snippet258
#dwtsnippets/expandbar/Snippet223
buildflags+=-Jdwtsnippets/images

version(Windows){
#buildflags+= -L/SUBSYSTEM:windows:5
    buildflags+= -L/SUBSYSTEM:console:5
}





#version(linux){



[dwtexamples/simple.d]
[dwtexamples/clipboard/ClipboardExample.d]
[dwtexamples/helloworld/HelloWorld1.d]
[dwtexamples/helloworld/HelloWorld2.d]
[dwtexamples/helloworld/HelloWorld3.d]
[dwtexamples/helloworld/HelloWorld4.d]
[dwtexamples/helloworld/HelloWorld5.d]

[dwtsnippets/button/Snippet293.d]
[dwtsnippets/combo/Snippet26.d]
[dwtsnippets/composite/Snippet9.d]
[dwtsnippets/coolbar/Snippet20.d]
[dwtsnippets/ctabfolder/Snippet165.d]
[dwtsnippets/directorydialog/Snippet33.d]
[dwtsnippets/expandbar/Snippet223.d]
[dwtsnippets/menu/Snippet29.d]
[dwtsnippets/menu/Snippet97.d]
[dwtsnippets/sash/Snippet107.d]
[dwtsnippets/styledtext/Snippet163.d]
[dwtsnippets/styledtext/Snippet189.d]
[dwtsnippets/table/Snippet38.d]
[dwtsnippets/table/Snippet144.d]
[dwtsnippets/text/Snippet258.d]
[dwtsnippets/tooltips/Snippet41.d]
[dwtsnippets/tray/Snippet143.d]
[dwtsnippets/tree/Snippet8.d]
[dwtsnippets/tree/Snippet15.d]
[dwtsnippets/program/Snippet32.d]

[user/dragdrop/texttolabel.d]
[user/drawingboard/DrawingBoard.d]
[user/torhu_synctest.d]

version(Derelict){
[dwtsnippets/opengl/Snippet195.d]
}

[dwtexamples/addressbook/AddressBook.d]
buildflags+=-Jdwtexamples/addressbook

[dwtexamples/controlexample/ControlExample.d]
buildflags+=-Jdwtexamples/controlexample
buildflags+=-version=CONTROL_EXAMPLE_MAIN

[dwtexamples/controlexample/CustomControlExample.d]
buildflags+=-Jdwtexamples/controlexample
buildflags+=-version=CUSTOM_CONTROL_EXAMPLE_MAIN

[dwtexamples/texteditor/TextEditor.d]
buildflags+=-Jdwtexamples/texteditor
.....................................................................................

I'm sure someone will tell me if I am mis-understanding something
Mar 11 2008
parent Tom <tom nospam.com> writes:
Ty Tower escribió:

 Ty Tower Wrote:
 
 .....................................................................................
 
 I'm sure someone will tell me if I am mis-understanding something


Maybe now is too late.

--
Tom;
Mar 11 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
Ty Tower Wrote:


 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject



Another
The output does not recognise "C" nor "alignment" ?
 Your lookers should not have to go delving to find out why, it needs to just
work.
 
[tytower linuxbox text]$ formatspec
I have {unknown format 'C'} in cash.
Avogadro's number is 6.02e+23.
Avogadro's number (with alignment) is 6.02e+23.


This is the example program which also appears in the tango book
/**

  Example showing how to use format specifier components in a format string's 
  argument.

  Put into public domain by Lars Ivar Igesund

*/

import tango.io.Stdout;

void main(){
    double avogadros = 6.0221415e23;
    Stdout.formatln("I have {0:C} in cash.", 100);
    Stdout.formatln("Avogadro's number is {0:E}.", avogadros);
    Stdout.formatln("Avogadro's number (with alignment) is {0,4:E}.",
avogadros);
}
Mar 15 2008
next sibling parent Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
Ty Tower Wrote:


 Ty Tower Wrote:
 

 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject


 
 
 Another
 The output does not recognise "C" nor "alignment" ?
  Your lookers should not have to go delving to find out why, it needs to just
work.
  
 [tytower linuxbox text]$ formatspec
 I have {unknown format 'C'} in cash.
 Avogadro's number is 6.02e+23.
 Avogadro's number (with alignment) is 6.02e+23.
 
 
 This is the example program which also appears in the tango book
 /**
 
   Example showing how to use format specifier components in a format string's 
   argument.
 
   Put into public domain by Lars Ivar Igesund
 
 */
 
 import tango.io.Stdout;
 
 void main(){
     double avogadros = 6.0221415e23;
     Stdout.formatln("I have {0:C} in cash.", 100);
     Stdout.formatln("Avogadro's number is {0:E}.", avogadros);
     Stdout.formatln("Avogadro's number (with alignment) is {0,4:E}.",
avogadros);
 }
 



The debug section in the library file gives a debug function which I extracted
,changed and ran . It works OK

import tango.io.Console;
import tango.text.convert.Layout;

void main ()
{
                auto layout = new Layout!(char);

                layout.sprint (new char[3], "hi");
                Cout (layout ("{:d2}", 56)).newline;
                Cout (layout ("{:f4}", 0.001)).newline;
                Cout (layout ("{:f8}", 3.14159)).newline;
                Cout (layout ("{:e20}", 0.001)).newline;
                Cout (layout ("{:e4}", 0.0000001)).newline;
                Cout (layout ("ptr:{}", &layout)).newline;
                Cout (layout ("{:C}}", 4.456789)).newline;
                Cout (layout ("{:c}}", 4.456789)).newline;
                
                struct S
{
                   char[] toString () {return "foo";}      
}

                S s;
                Cout (layout ("struct: {}", s)).newline;
}

/*Output of this is OK -I added ":C" liness to the tango library file it wasn't
there

[tytower linuxbox Desktop]$ TestLayout
56
0.0010
3.14159000
0.10000000000000000000e-02
0.1000e-06
ptr:bfc6a008
4.46}
4.46}
struct: foo
Mar 15 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:
Ty Tower wrote:


 Another
 The output does not recognise "C" nor "alignment" ?


For C, see below. "alignment" is not a specifier in itself in any way, it is
the number seen behind a comma in some of the examples; so what do you mean
with it not being recognized? 


  Your lookers should not have to go delving to find out why, it needs to
  just work.


We appreciate tickets posted at
http://www.dsource.org/projects/tango/newticket


  
 [tytower linuxbox text]$ formatspec
 I have {unknown format 'C'} in cash.
 Avogadro's number is 6.02e+23.
 Avogadro's number (with alignment) is 6.02e+23.
 
 
 This is the example program which also appears in the tango book


You need to point me to where this can be found in the book, in which case
it will be listed in the errata.


 /**
 
   Example showing how to use format specifier components in a format
   string's argument.
 
   Put into public domain by Lars Ivar Igesund
 
 */
 
 import tango.io.Stdout;
 
 void main(){
     double avogadros = 6.0221415e23;
     Stdout.formatln("I have {0:C} in cash.", 100);
     Stdout.formatln("Avogadro's number is {0:E}.", avogadros);
     Stdout.formatln("Avogadro's number (with alignment) is {0,4:E}.",
     avogadros);
 }


Thanks, this example is indeed in error. Currently C is only available as a
specifier if you have a Locale enabled (as you can read in the book). The E
specifier does appear to not work properly under Locale though.

-- 
Lars Ivar Igesund
blog at http://larsivi.net
DSource, #d.tango & #D: larsivi
Dancing the Tango
Mar 15 2008
prev sibling parent reply TyTower <tytower msn.com.au> writes:
Ty Tower Wrote:


 Ty Tower Wrote:
 

 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject




I wanted to do the install process again because it is such a mess I also
wanted to write a guide for Linux users .


So I go to get dmd 1.028
dmd 1.028 and all prior do not have an install instruction file in them so
stupidly they dont associate the install instructions with each distribution

Now this means whatever install instructions you see on the web site are for
the current distro only. So if you have downloaded the 5Meg file previously ,
you now can use it because the installation instructions may be wrong .

You have to download it again !   Clots
Mar 17 2008
next sibling parent TyTower <tytower msn.com.au> writes:
And this is what you get when you follow their instructions .

This is what got to me in the first place . I remember the frustration . Where



cp -f rebuild/defaults/dmd-posix rebuild/rebuild.conf/default
./rebuild/rebuild -full -Irebuild sss/main.d -ofdsss
sss/main.d(31): module file cannot read file 'std/file.d'
make: *** [dsss] Error 1
Mar 17 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to tytower,

The install process for DMD hasn't changed in so long the original could 
well have be written in stone and stored in the Ark.

OTOH look for /dmd/html/d/dcompiler.html in dmd.zip
Mar 17 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Tower Ty <towerty msn.com.au> writes:
 Ty Tower Wrote:
 

 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject






Well here we go again.

Whoever writes the installation notes for  dsss  and dmd  should initially
suggest to new users to put the  directories in their  $HOME directory . I see
now that following the given instructions means you have some permission
problems getting to object.d.

That causes errors in the compiles and the messages are cryptic from both of
these programs. New lookers without some prior dmd and dsss experience will
find the compiler output nearly indecipherable.
Mar 19 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Tower Ty <towerty msn.com.au> writes:
 Ty Tower Wrote:
 

 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject






DMD comes with samples - one in particular won't compile

This is the error
d2html.d(335): Error: identifier 'ReadError' is not defined
d2html.d(335): Error: ReadError is used as a type


and this the offending program piece
	}
	// if end of file is reached and we try to read something
	// with typed read(), a ReadError is thrown; in our case,
	// this means that job is successfully done
	catch (ReadError e)
	{
Dunno at this stage where ReadError comes from

Now looking at the English above  what do they mean "with typed read() 
Should that be "with type read()"........"with a keyboard entry"......"with
method read()"......."with function read()" .........God knows
Mar 19 2008
prev sibling parent Tower Ty <towerty msn.com.au> writes:
 Ty Tower Wrote:
 

 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject






A little more on the examples All of the COM examples
,chello.d,dclient.d,dserver.d don't compile along with winsamp.d.  The reason
given is 

/home/tytower/dmd/bin/../src/phobos/std/c/windows/windows.d(12): static assert 
is false

Now I see a batch file leading to a script file for all in Windows but no
Dsss.conf file for us Linux dumbos. I suppose these need special treatment or
libraries.
Mar 19 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
Ty Tower Wrote:


 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject
 


 
In Tango examples the dsss.conf is out of date as below new one is further down
dss.conf
                                          - missing no cluster
[concurrency/fiber_test.d]
buildflags += -unittest
[conduits/composite.d]
[conduits/createzip.d]
version (Windows) {
    buildflags += -L"zlib;libbz2"  -  made global
}
version (Posix) {
    buildflags += -L-lz        -made global
}

[conduits/filebubbler.d]
[conduits/filecat.d]   - filebucket missed
[conduits/filecopy.d]
[conduits/fileops.d]
[conduits/filepathname.d]
[conduits/filescan.d]
[conduits/filescanregex.d]
[conduits/lineio.d]
[conduits/mmap.d]
[conduits/paths.d]
[conduits/randomio.d]
[conduits/shuffle.d]
[conduits/unifile.d]
[console/hello.d]
[console/stdout.d]- missing buffered.d

[logging/chainsaw.d]
[logging/logging.d]
[logging/multilog.d]-context
[manual/chapterStorage.d]
[networking/homepage.d]
[networking/httpget.d]
[networking/selector.d]
[networking/sockethello.d]
[networking/socketserver.d]
[system/arguments.d]       -synchronisation/* missing?
[system/localtime.d]
[system/normpath.d]
[system/process.d]
[text/formatalign.d]
[text/formatindex.d]
[text/formatspec.d]
[text/localetime.d]
[text/properties.d]
[text/token.d]
[text/xmldom.d]
buildflags += -Jtext  -don't know about globalising this ?
[text/xmlpull.d]
buildflags += -Jtext
[text/xmlsax.d]
buildflags += -Jtext
[text/xmlpath.d]
[vfs/vfszip.d]
version (Windows) {
    buildflags += -L"zlib;libbz2"-made global
}
version (Posix) {
    buildflags += -L-lz -made global
}
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So new one -tested
[*]
version (Windows) {
    buildflags += -L"zlib;libbz2"
}
version (Posix) {
    buildflags += -L-lz
}

[cluster/alert.d]
[cluster/cclient.d]
[cluster/cserver.d]
[cluster/invalidate.d]
[cluster/qclient.d]
[cluster/qlisten.d]
[cluster/qrequest.d]
[cluster/qserver.d]
[cluster/reply.d]







/conduits/filebubbler



[concurrency/fiber_test.d]
buildflags += -unittest


[conduits/composite.d]
[conduits/createzip.d]
[conduits/filebubbler.d]

[conduits/filecat.d]
[conduits/filecopy.d]
[conduits/fileops.d]
[conduits/filepathname.d]
[conduits/filescan.d]
[conduits/filescanregex.d]
[conduits/lineio.d]
[conduits/mmap.d]
[conduits/paths.d]
[conduits/randomio.d]
[conduits/shuffle.d]
[conduits/unifile.d]

[console/buffered.d]
[console/hello.d]
[console/stdout.d]

[logging/chainsaw.d]
[logging/logging.d]
[logging/multilog.d]

[manual/chapterStorage.d]

[networking/homepage.d]
[networking/httpget.d]
[networking/selector.d]
[networking/sockethello.d]
[networking/socketserver.d]

[synchronization/barrier.d]
[synchronization/condition.d]

[synchronization/readwritemutex.d]
[synchronization/semaphore.d]

[system/arguments.d]
[system/localtime.d]
[system/normpath.d]
[system/process.d]


[text/formatalign.d]
[text/formatindex.d]
[text/formatspec.d]
[text/localetime.d]
[text/properties.d]
[text/token.d]
[text/xmldom.d]
buildflags += -Jtext
[text/xmlpull.d]
buildflags += -Jtext
[text/xmlsax.d]
buildflags += -Jtext
[text/xmlpath.d]

[vfs/vfszip.d]

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It looked like the Jake file for windows needed some work too
Mar 15 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Tower Ty <towerty msn.com.au> writes:
 Ty Tower Wrote:
 

 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject






That should be "samples " in the prior posts .

One more 

recls_test_1.d(48): module recls cannot read file 'std/recls.d'

The file /phobos/std/recls.d  imported by this program is not there .
Mar 19 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent tytower <tytower hotmail.com> writes:
 Ty Tower Wrote:
 

 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject






OK here is another that I have touched on before but it was not as clear to me
then as it is now.

If you choose to run Tango then the file you get with "dsss" must be checked
and changed if necessary. I havn't seen a correct one in anything I have
downloaded to date and that's up to the distro available today.

Go to /dsss/etc/rebuild and first make sure the default file reads "
dmd-posix-tango"

Then go into "dmd-posix-tango" and change the file as per my #note below

profile=tango

compiler=dmd
inifile=dmd.conf

exeext=
objext=o


version=DigitalMars
noversion=GNU
version=linux
noversion=Unix
version=Posix
noversion=Windows
noversion=Win32
noversion=Win64
version=X86
noversion=PPC
noversion=X86_64
version=D_InlineAsm
version=D_InlineAsm_X86
noversion=D_InlineAsm_PPC
noversion=D_InlineAsm_X86_64
version=LittleEndian
noversion=BigEndian
version=Tango


[compile]
cmd=dmd -version=Posix -version=Tango -c $i

flag=$i
incdir=-I$i
libdir=-L-L$i
optimize=-O
version=-version=$i


[link]
oneatatime=no

cmd=dmd  $i -of$o


libdir=-L-L$i
lib=-L-l$i
flag=-L$i


[liblink]
safe=yes
oneatatime=yes
cmd=ar rc $o $i

libdir=
lib=
flag=


[postliblink]
cmd=ranlib $i


[shliblink]
shlibs=no

[dyliblink]
dylibs=no

Then at least you will get a result not like the shit I have been trying to
wade through

Its a bloody disgrace for Linux users of Tango , what a ballsup.
Mar 20 2008
prev sibling parent reply tytower <towerty msn.com.au> writes:
 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject






Linker library messages and dsss_objects
Why the heck does my compile give all of this output when compiling a simple
little program?
Theres even a THAI buddhist in there

Heres the program

module test;
import tango.io.Stdout;
import tango.text.locale.Locale;
 
 void main(){
 Locale locale = new Locale;
 Stdout("I have lost { } of my birds",20).newline;
 Stdout.formatln("I have {:C} birds on the roof",100);
}
which despite Lar's cryptic remarks previously  does not format properly and
here is what dsss spews out

mystuff/test.d => mystuff/test
+ /home/tytower/dsss/bin/rebuild -Idsss_imports/ -I. -S./
-I/home/tytower/dsss/include/d -S/home/tytower/dsss/lib/ 
-I/home/tytower/dsss/include/d -S/home/tytower/dsss/lib
-I/home/tytower/d/include/d -S/home/tytower/d/lib  -oqdsss_objs/D 
mystuff/test.d -ofmystuff/test
gcc dsss_objs/D/_test.o dsss_objs/D/tango.io.Stdout.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.io.Print.o dsss_objs/D/tango.io.model.IBuffer.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.io.model.IConduit.o dsss_objs/D/tango.text.convert.Layout.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.text.convert.Utf.o dsss_objs/D/tango.text.convert.Float.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.text.convert.Integer.o dsss_objs/D/tango.io.Console.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.sys.Common.o dsss_objs/D/tango.sys.linux.linux.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.time.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.config.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.stddef.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.dlfcn.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.config.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.fcntl.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.stdint.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.sys.types.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.sys.stat.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.time.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.signal.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.signal.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.poll.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.pwd.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.unistd.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.inttypes.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.inttypes.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.sys.select.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.sys.time.o dsss_objs/D/tango.sys.linux.epoll.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.errno.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.string.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.io.Buffer.o dsss_objs/D/tango.io.DeviceConduit.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.io.Conduit.o dsss_objs/D/tango.text.locale.Locale.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.text.locale.Core.o dsss_objs/D/tango.text.locale.Data.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.Time.o dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Hijri.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Calendar.o dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Korean.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.GregorianBased.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Gregorian.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Taiwan.o dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Hebrew.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Japanese.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.ThaiBuddhist.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.text.locale.Posix.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.ctype.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.stdlib.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.stdlib.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.sys.wait.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.locale.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.text.locale.Convert.o dsss_objs/D/tango.time.WallClock.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.Clock.o -o mystuff/test -m32 -Xlinker -L./ -Xlinker
-L/home/tytower/dsss/lib/ -Xlinker -L/home/tytower/dsss/lib -Xlinker
-L/home/tytower/d/lib -Xlinker -L/home/tytower/dmd/bin/../lib -ltango-user-dmd
-Xlinker -L/home/tytower/dmd/bin/../lib -ltango-user-dmd -ltango-base-dmd
-lpthread -lm

Now I suppose this is something that I have done in a dsss configuration file
perhaps but DMD on the same program gives 

[tytower localhost tango]$ dmd  mystuff/test.d
gcc test.o -o test -m32 -Xlinker -L/home/tytower/dmd/bin/../lib
-ltango-user-dmd -ltango-base-dmd -lpthread -lm

Strange..........Ohh ,here's the output Lars--not right on either line

[tytower localhost tango]$ mystuff/test
I have lost { } of my birds, 20
I have {unknown format 'C'} birds on the roof
Mar 20 2008
next sibling parent reply Cosmonaut <yao gmail.com> writes:
tytower escribió:

 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 

 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .
 The best critic is the most schooled in the subject






 
 Linker library messages and dsss_objects
 Why the heck does my compile give all of this output when compiling a simple
little program?
 Theres even a THAI buddhist in there
 
 Heres the program
 
 module test;
 import tango.io.Stdout;
 import tango.text.locale.Locale;
  
  void main(){
  Locale locale = new Locale;
  Stdout("I have lost { } of my birds",20).newline;
  Stdout.formatln("I have {:C} birds on the roof",100);
 }
 which despite Lar's cryptic remarks previously  does not format properly and
here is what dsss spews out
 
 mystuff/test.d => mystuff/test
 + /home/tytower/dsss/bin/rebuild -Idsss_imports/ -I. -S./
-I/home/tytower/dsss/include/d -S/home/tytower/dsss/lib/ 
-I/home/tytower/dsss/include/d -S/home/tytower/dsss/lib
-I/home/tytower/d/include/d -S/home/tytower/d/lib  -oqdsss_objs/D 
mystuff/test.d -ofmystuff/test
 gcc dsss_objs/D/_test.o dsss_objs/D/tango.io.Stdout.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.io.Print.o dsss_objs/D/tango.io.model.IBuffer.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.io.model.IConduit.o dsss_objs/D/tango.text.convert.Layout.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.text.convert.Utf.o dsss_objs/D/tango.text.convert.Float.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.text.convert.Integer.o dsss_objs/D/tango.io.Console.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.sys.Common.o dsss_objs/D/tango.sys.linux.linux.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.time.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.config.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.stddef.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.dlfcn.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.config.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.fcntl.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.stdint.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.sys.types.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.sys.stat.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.time.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.signal.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.signal.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.poll.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.pwd.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.unistd.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.inttypes.o 


dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.inttypes.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.sys.select.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.sys.time.o dsss_objs/D/tango.sys.linux.epoll.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.errno.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.string.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.io.Buffer.o dsss_objs/D/tango.io.DeviceConduit.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.io.Conduit.o dsss_objs/D/tango.text.locale.Locale.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.text.locale.Core.o dsss_objs/D/tango.text.locale.Data.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.Time.o dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Hijri.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Calendar.o dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Korean.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.GregorianBased.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Gregorian.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Taiwan.o dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Hebrew.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.Japanese.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.chrono.ThaiBuddhist.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.text.locale.Posix.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.ctype.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.posix.stdlib.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.stdlib.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.p
osix.sys.wait.o dsss_objs/D/tango.stdc.locale.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.text.locale.Convert.o dsss_objs/D/tango.time.WallClock.o
dsss_objs/D/tango.time.Clock.o -o mystuff/test -m32 -Xlinker -L./ -Xlinker
-L/home/tytower/dsss/lib/ -Xlinker -L/home/tytower/dsss/lib -Xlinker
-L/home/tytower/d/lib -Xlinker -L/home/tytower/dmd/bin/../lib -ltango-user-dmd
-Xlinker -L/home/tytower/dmd/bin/../lib -ltango-user-dmd -ltango-base-dmd
-lpthread -lm

 
 Now I suppose this is something that I have done in a dsss configuration file
perhaps but DMD on the same program gives 
 
 [tytower localhost tango]$ dmd  mystuff/test.d
 gcc test.o -o test -m32 -Xlinker -L/home/tytower/dmd/bin/../lib
-ltango-user-dmd -ltango-base-dmd -lpthread -lm
 
 Strange..........Ohh ,here's the output Lars--not right on either line
 
 [tytower localhost tango]$ mystuff/test
 I have lost { } of my birds, 20
 I have {unknown format 'C'} birds on the roof
 


Idiot.
Mar 20 2008
parent reply Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:
Cosmonaut wrote:

 

 Idiot.


And of course there is no bigger idiot than the one who will not read
and check the post 

Why do you bother to post CLOWN
Mar 20 2008
parent reply Cosmonaut <yao gmail.com> writes:
Ty Tower escribió:

 Cosmonaut wrote:
 
  

 Idiot.


 And of course there is no bigger idiot than the one who will not read
 and check the post 
 
 Why do you bother to post CLOWN


I.D.I.O.T.

Idiot.
Mar 20 2008
parent BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Cosmonaut,


 I.D.I.O.T.
 
 Idiot.
 


If you are correct or not (I didn't even read any of the post) trying to 
correct, or even work with Ty is a frustrating and generally pointless endeavor.
Mar 20 2008
prev sibling parent reply Tower Ty <towerty msn.com.au> writes:
tytower Wrote:


 Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 
 
 Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .








This compiler message tells me absolutely nothing as to its whereabouts !!

" tango.core.Exception.IllegalArgumentException: Argument not valid "

Surely you cold put a line number, or other reference so it means something?
May 05 2008
parent reply BCS <BCS pathlink.com> writes:
Tower Ty wrote:

 tytower Wrote:
 
 

Take them as things to be fixed or deny their existence 

Either way I will post here the stupid things I find as I go through bits and
pieces .








 
 
 This compiler message tells me absolutely nothing as to its whereabouts !!
 
 " tango.core.Exception.IllegalArgumentException: Argument not valid "
 
 Surely you cold put a line number, or other reference so it means something?


file a bug report.
May 05 2008
parent reply "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"BCS" <BCS pathlink.com> wrote in message 
news:fvnauf$2hii$1 digitalmars.com...


 " tango.core.Exception.IllegalArgumentException: Argument not valid "

 Surely you cold put a line number, or other reference so it means 
 something?


 file a bug report.


I'm not so sure.  That looks like a runtime error, not a compile time error.

If he's getting the error when he tries to compile something, maybe it's an 
error in a build tool, but it certainly does not look like a compile time 
error.
May 05 2008
parent reply BCS <BCS pathlink.com> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "BCS" <BCS pathlink.com> wrote in message 
 news:fvnauf$2hii$1 digitalmars.com...
 
 

" tango.core.Exception.IllegalArgumentException: Argument not valid "

Surely you cold put a line number, or other reference so it means 
something?


file a bug report.


 
 
 I'm not so sure.  That looks like a runtime error, not a compile time error.
 
 If he's getting the error when he tries to compile something, maybe it's an 
 error in a build tool, but it certainly does not look like a compile time 
 error. 
 
 


OK then file a tango bug report/feature request.
May 05 2008
parent reply Tower Ty <towerty msn.com.au> writes:
BCS Wrote:


 Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "BCS" <BCS pathlink.com> wrote in message 
 news:fvnauf$2hii$1 digitalmars.com...
 
 

" tango.core.Exception.IllegalArgumentException: Argument not valid "

Surely you cold put a line number, or other reference so it means 
something?


file a bug report.


 
 
 I'm not so sure.  That looks like a runtime error, not a compile time error.
 
 If he's getting the error when he tries to compile something, maybe it's an 
 error in a build tool, but it certainly does not look like a compile time 
 error. 
 
 


 
 OK then file a tango bug report/feature request.


Yep its a runtime error . I should have said . As you can't file a bug report
without joining something and giving out emails I am using this as a bug report
venue and have been for some time . 

If no-one chooses to do anything about them too bad . There are stacks of
choices for me.
May 05 2008
next sibling parent reply "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Tower Ty" <towerty msn.com.au> wrote in message 
news:fvovbu$18gg$1 digitalmars.com...


 Yep its a runtime error . I should have said . As you can't file a bug 
 report without joining something and giving out emails I am using this as 
 a bug report venue and have been for some time .


Then you'll have to get used to people ignoring your bug reports.  Tango is 
maintained by a core team of about 3 people, all of whom have real lives and 
real jobs.  They just don't have the time or manpower to collate bug reports 
from all over the web.

Also, this is a runtime error.  Try throwing _any_ exception and you'll 
notice that no file or line is given.  In order to know where an exception 
occurred, either the language has to have some kind of built-in support 
whereby it will pass the file and line of the 'throw' statement to the 
exception's constructor (which it doesn't), or you have to have a traceback 
mechanism (which, by default, does not exist).  Apparently you can get 
traced exceptions in Tango by using flectioned; I've never used it.
May 06 2008
parent Pedro Ferreira <ask me.pt> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley escreveu:

 "Tower Ty" <towerty msn.com.au> wrote in message 
 news:fvovbu$18gg$1 digitalmars.com...
 

 Yep its a runtime error . I should have said . As you can't file a bug 
 report without joining something and giving out emails I am using this as 
 a bug report venue and have been for some time .


 
 Then you'll have to get used to people ignoring your bug reports.  Tango is 
 maintained by a core team of about 3 people, all of whom have real lives and 
 real jobs.  They just don't have the time or manpower to collate bug reports 
 from all over the web.
 
 Also, this is a runtime error.  Try throwing _any_ exception and you'll 
 notice that no file or line is given.  In order to know where an exception 
 occurred, either the language has to have some kind of built-in support 
 whereby it will pass the file and line of the 'throw' statement to the 
 exception's constructor (which it doesn't), or you have to have a traceback 
 mechanism (which, by default, does not exist).  Apparently you can get 
 traced exceptions in Tango by using flectioned; I've never used it. 
 
 


Or use ddbg (a debugger for d) and unwind the stack when the exception 
is thrown
May 06 2008
prev sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
"Tower Ty" wrote

 BCS Wrote:


 Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "BCS" <BCS pathlink.com> wrote in message
 news:fvnauf$2hii$1 digitalmars.com...



" tango.core.Exception.IllegalArgumentException: Argument not valid "

Surely you cold put a line number, or other reference so it means
something?


file a bug report.



 I'm not so sure.  That looks like a runtime error, not a compile time 
 error.

 If he's getting the error when he tries to compile something, maybe 
 it's an
 error in a build tool, but it certainly does not look like a compile 
 time
 error.


 OK then file a tango bug report/feature request.


 Yep its a runtime error . I should have said . As you can't file a bug 
 report without joining something and giving out emails I am using this as 
 a bug report venue and have been for some time .

 If no-one chooses to do anything about them too bad . There are stacks of 
 choices for me.


Even if you filed this as a bug report, it wouldn't be sufficient.  There is 
no way of reproducing, no way of knowing whether you are throwing this 
exception in your code, or using another library, etc.  More information 
about what you are doing is necessary.

I don't think any reasonable software development team is going to take a 
bug report seriously if you don't take it seriously.  If you would rather 
not use Tango, then that is a viable option.  If your goal is to use Tango, 
put in some effort and file a ticket.

Even digitalmars uses a bug reporting system, and their team pretty much 
doesn't do anything without a bug report there.  The newsgroup is for 
fleshing out ideas, seeing if someone else knows how to solve a problem, 
asking if a bug is already known, etc.  It is not a bug reporting mechanism.

-Steve
May 06 2008