• Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d (19/19) Jan 19 2015 Has anyone been in contact with Debian and Fedora packagers to see if
• Paul O'Neil (27/38) Jan 19 2015 I also suspect that Debian won't like using another build tool,
• weaselcat (4/20) Jan 19 2015 I remember dub had plans on having a makefile generator for such
• Bioinfornatics (9/9) Jan 19 2015 Hi, I am a fedora packager.
• ponce (4/20) Jan 19 2015 There have been discussions on that point:

Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:

Has anyone been in contact with Debian and Fedora packagers to see if
using Dub as a build system is acceptable to them for packaging? I know
Debian folk still prefer Autotools, but accept Make or SCons (but
definitely not Waf).

My suspicion is that Debian will deem it not acceptable, but this is
just suspicion, based on the problems they have with Gradle and Maven.

I am asking as I am thinking of rewriting a C++/Autotools/SCons/GTK
application in D/GtkD and need to know whether to use SCons or Dub as
the primary build driver.

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"Paul O'Neil" <redballoon36 gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 19 January 2015 at 14:48:32 UTC, Russel Winder via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
 Has anyone been in contact with Debian and Fedora packagers to 
 see if
 using Dub as a build system is acceptable to them for 
 packaging? I know
 Debian folk still prefer Autotools, but accept Make or SCons 
 (but
 definitely not Waf).

 My suspicion is that Debian will deem it not acceptable, but 
 this is
 just suspicion, based on the problems they have with Gradle and 
 Maven.

I also suspect that Debian won't like using another build tool,
but it may not be a fatal objection.  Here's what their wiki says
about Hadoop:

Debian currently does not include Hadoop packages. There are a
number of reasons for this; in particular the Hadoop build
process will load various dependencies via Maven instead of using
distribution-supplied packages. Java projects like this are
unfortunately not easy to package because of interdependencies;
and unfortunately the Hadoop stack is full of odd dependencies
(including Apache Forrest, which for a long time only worked with
Java = 1.5).

It may not be too much effort to make a "dub-debian" tool that
takes a dub package and builds it using Debian packages, or sets
up an unbuilt source package that they would find acceptable.  A
potential challenge here is mapping between dub and Debian
packages that do the same thing.  There is a "dub build --nodeps"
flag that prevents dub from downloading a building dependencies,
kind of turning dub into make.  So if we could automate finding
the right Debian packages for dependencies and those put their
stuff into the default search paths, then maybe we can use dub to
drive compilation and nothing else.  I'll add this to my TODO
list.

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Paul O'Neil
Github / IRC: todayman

"weaselcat" <weaselcat gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 19 January 2015 at 14:48:32 UTC, Russel Winder via 
Digitalmars-d wrote:
 Has anyone been in contact with Debian and Fedora packagers to 
 see if
 using Dub as a build system is acceptable to them for 
 packaging? I know
 Debian folk still prefer Autotools, but accept Make or SCons 
 (but
 definitely not Waf).

 My suspicion is that Debian will deem it not acceptable, but 
 this is
 just suspicion, based on the problems they have with Gradle and 
 Maven.

 I am asking as I am thinking of rewriting a 
 C++/Autotools/SCons/GTK
 application in D/GtkD and need to know whether to use SCons or 
 Dub as
 the primary build driver.

I remember dub had plans on having a makefile generator for such 
situations, did anything ever come out of this?

"Bioinfornatics" <bioinfornatics fedoraproject.org> writes:

Hi, I am a fedora packager.
I packaged libraries for fedora using a makefile, cmake and other 
but not dub.
I will not use dub until they support makefile. I have no time to 
add this feature and it seem we have all same problem  :-).
Using scons is fine to me, I could package it.
If you want to try makefile for any reason.  they are 
https://github.com/bioinfornatics/MakefileForD

Regards

"ponce" <contact gam3sfrommars.fr> writes:

On Monday, 19 January 2015 at 14:48:32 UTC, Russel Winder via 
Digitalmars-d wrote:
 Has anyone been in contact with Debian and Fedora packagers to 
 see if
 using Dub as a build system is acceptable to them for 
 packaging? I know
 Debian folk still prefer Autotools, but accept Make or SCons 
 (but
 definitely not Waf).

 My suspicion is that Debian will deem it not acceptable, but 
 this is
 just suspicion, based on the problems they have with Gradle and 
 Maven.

 I am asking as I am thinking of rewriting a 
 C++/Autotools/SCons/GTK
 application in D/GtkD and need to know whether to use SCons or 
 Dub as
 the primary build driver.

There have been discussions on that point: 
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dub/issues/342