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digitalmars.D - DIP Reviews: Discussion vs. Feedback

reply bachmeier <no spam.net> writes:
I'm creating this thread in case some aren't aware of this:

https://dlang.org/blog/2020/01/26/dip-reviews-discussion-vs-feedback/

Please use the discussion thread for discussion. Don't reply to 
posts in the feedback thread unless you're the DIP author. (I 
think that's the rule.) I've noticed people violating the new 
rules and their posts are being deleted.
Feb 03 2020
parent reply IGotD- <nise nise.com> writes:
On Monday, 3 February 2020 at 19:57:54 UTC, bachmeier wrote:

 I'm creating this thread in case some aren't aware of this:

 https://dlang.org/blog/2020/01/26/dip-reviews-discussion-vs-feedback/

 Please use the discussion thread for discussion. Don't reply to 
 posts in the feedback thread unless you're the DIP author. (I 
 think that's the rule.) I've noticed people violating the new 
 rules and their posts are being deleted.


There is a fine line between discussions and feedback. It is not 
that obvious what is OT and what is not. I consider this also to 
be a limitation of the forum SW which is just a news group. If 
someone is going too OT, then a moderator can choose to delete 
the post or put it in a new thread but how much control does this 
forum give to a moderator. Modern forum SW has an option to move 
several posts to a new or existing thread.
Feb 03 2020
next sibling parent bachmeier <no spam.net> writes:
On Monday, 3 February 2020 at 22:28:32 UTC, IGotD- wrote:

 On Monday, 3 February 2020 at 19:57:54 UTC, bachmeier wrote:

 I'm creating this thread in case some aren't aware of this:

 https://dlang.org/blog/2020/01/26/dip-reviews-discussion-vs-feedback/

 Please use the discussion thread for discussion. Don't reply 
 to posts in the feedback thread unless you're the DIP author. 
 (I think that's the rule.) I've noticed people violating the 
 new rules and their posts are being deleted.


 There is a fine line between discussions and feedback. It is 
 not that obvious what is OT and what is not. I consider this 
 also to be a limitation of the forum SW which is just a news 
 group. If someone is going too OT, then a moderator can choose 
 to delete the post or put it in a new thread but how much 
 control does this forum give to a moderator. Modern forum SW 
 has an option to move several posts to a new or existing thread.


My understanding is that they've started the discussion threads 
so that everyone can say whatever they want related to the DIP. 
The feedback threads have a different purpose.
Feb 03 2020
prev sibling parent Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 3 February 2020 at 22:28:32 UTC, IGotD- wrote:


 There is a fine line between discussions and feedback. It is 
 not that obvious what is OT and what is not.


That’s why we have two threads now, to clearly delineate the two. 
Previously, review threads would ramble all over the place, with 
feedback specific to the content of the DIP mixed in with 
discussion of the proposed feature and tangential topics. This 
made it time consuming to dig out actionable items of feedback.

Posts in the feedback thread are required to be direct replies to 
the initial post in order to prevent discussion in that thread 
and keep comments focused on the DIP. If someone leaves feedback 
there and you reply to it to counter it or expand on it, that’s 
opening the door to discussion and your post will be deleted. 
Instead, make a post in the discussion thread and include a link 
to the post you’re responding to and quote the relevant text.

We don’t want to stifle discussion, because it can lead to new 
ideas to enhance the DIP, or for a new proposal, or even to 
withdraw the DIP. But we want to make it easier for me and the 
DIP author to find actionable feedback that can guide revision of 
the DIP. It will also be easier for future readers clicking from 
the review summary to see what specific feedback was provided.
Feb 03 2020