digitalmars.D - D2 Library Porters
- Iain Buclaw (11/11) Jul 03 2012 Hi,
- nazriel (3/6) Jul 03 2012 Sorry for interrupting. Just wanted to say:
- d coder (6/11) Jul 03 2012 Hello Iain
- Jakob Bornecrantz (5/13) Jul 03 2012 Cool.
- Iain Buclaw (9/25) Jul 03 2012 I'm not working on it, no. There are quite a few alterations to
- Jakob Bornecrantz (4/36) Jul 03 2012 Okay.
- Iain Buclaw (38/50) Jul 03 2012 In a brief / rough description, essentially the art of cross-compiling i...
- akaz (9/12) Jul 03 2012 Hi,
- Iain Buclaw (7/21) Jul 03 2012 Whoops, typo. Meant 4.7 :-)
- Iain Buclaw (7/31) Jul 03 2012 Also, I say you should drop Ubuntu in favour of Debian. :o)
- Wouter Verhelst (6/8) Jul 03 2012 ACK ;-)
- Jonathan M Davis (3/4) Jul 03 2012 No, no, no. Use Arch! ;)
- F i L (11/15) Jul 03 2012 Yes!
- Jonathan M Davis (10/28) Jul 03 2012 Or you could always try and get them to go with LFS. LOL.
- H. S. Teoh (8/13) Jul 03 2012 -1. ;-)
- Iain Buclaw (7/11) Jul 03 2012 Just so long as it isn't Gentoo. :o)
- Jonathan M Davis (10/22) Jul 03 2012 LOL. I did use Gentoo for a while, but I got sick of things breaking on
- Christian Manning (10/38) Jul 03 2012 I found this to be a downside to Arch as there were a few
- Jacob Carlborg (8/21) Jul 04 2012 I agree. I tried LFS and then added portage, which basically made it
- Iain Buclaw (6/34) Jul 04 2012 Another platform that we need to start testing extensively with GDC. :-)
- Jonathan Andrew (6/52) Jul 04 2012 I'll bite - I'm getting my feet wet again after being away from
- Iain Buclaw (9/59) Jul 06 2012 I've made a gdc-4.7 branch to whom's sources will be used for the
- d coder (7/11) Jul 04 2012 Greetings
- =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Alex_R=F8nne_Petersen?= (7/18) Jul 04 2012 D1 is officially deprecated in GDC; it won't be included in GCC.
- Iain Buclaw (10/19) Jul 04 2012 D2 only. GDC with D1 had already been ported to all architectures
Hi, I'm going to be pushing gdc-4.8 package into debian this weekend (give about a fortnight for it to land in sid) - is anyone interested in porting Druntime / Phobos over to the architectures that Debian supports? I can give anyone a quick crash course through building a cross compiler if they need it. The challenge this summer is to get this list out of the red and into the green. :) https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=gdc-4.6 Regards Iain
Jul 03 2012
"nazriel" <nazriel6969 gmail.com> On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 10:12:39 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:Hi, I'm going to be pushing gdc-4.8 package into debian this weekend (give about a fortnight for it to land in sid)Sorry for interrupting. Just wanted to say: AWESOME!
Jul 03 2012
I'm going to be pushing gdc-4.8 package into debian this weekend (give about a fortnight for it to land in sid) - is anyone interested in porting Druntime / Phobos over to the architectures that Debian supports? I can give anyone a quick crash course through building a cross compiler if they need it.Hello Iain I do not know how much I would be able to achieve, but I can contribute a reasonable amount of time on this. I would need a crash course though. Let me know how to proceed. Regards - Puneet
Jul 03 2012
On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 10:12:39 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:Hi, I'm going to be pushing gdc-4.8 package into debian this weekend (give about a fortnight for it to land in sid) - is anyone interested in porting Druntime / Phobos over to the architectures that Debian supports? I can give anyone a quick crash course through building a cross compiler if they need it. The challenge this summer is to get this list out of the red and into the green. :)Cool. Getting D into the mingw cross compiler is something I would very much like to see? Is that something you are working? Cheers, Jakob.
Jul 03 2012
On 3 July 2012 11:55, Jakob Bornecrantz <wallbraker gmail.com> wrote:On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 10:12:39 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:I'm not working on it, no. There are quite a few alterations to binutls / gcc backend if I recall correctly that enable D2 runtime (notably thread-local storage) to function correctly on MinGW. These may block the ability to make a MinGW cross-compiler also. Regards -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';Hi, I'm going to be pushing gdc-4.8 package into debian this weekend (give about a fortnight for it to land in sid) - is anyone interested in porting Druntime / Phobos over to the architectures that Debian supports? I can give anyone a quick crash course through building a cross compiler if they need it. The challenge this summer is to get this list out of the red and into the green. :)Cool. Getting D into the mingw cross compiler is something I would very much like to see? Is that something you are working? Cheers, Jakob.
Jul 03 2012
On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 11:43:04 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:On 3 July 2012 11:55, Jakob Bornecrantz <wallbraker gmail.com> wrote:Ah, shame :-/On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 10:12:39 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:I'm not working on it, no.Hi, I'm going to be pushing gdc-4.8 package into debian this weekend (give about a fortnight for it to land in sid) - is anyone interested in porting Druntime / Phobos over to the architectures that Debian supports? I can give anyone a quick crash course through building a cross compiler if they need it. The challenge this summer is to get this list out of the red and into the green. :)Cool. Getting D into the mingw cross compiler is something I would very much like to see? Is that something you are working? Cheers, Jakob.There are quite a few alterations to binutls / gcc backend if I recall correctly that enable D2 runtime (notably thread-local storage) to function correctly on MinGW. These may block the ability to make a MinGW cross-compiler also.Okay. Cheers, Jakob.
Jul 03 2012
On 3 July 2012 11:26, d coder <dlang.coder gmail.com> wrote:In a brief / rough description, essentially the art of cross-compiling is: 1) Obtain binutils sources for your current distribution (Debian has 2.22) Obtain gcc-core sources for the version you are wanting to build (ie: 4.7) 2) Configure binutils with --target=arm-linux-gnueabi. Build and install somewhere away from your system folders (eg: /usr/local, /opt, or /home may work) 3) Configure gcc-core with --target=arm-linux-gnueabi --enable-multilib --disable-libssp. Build and install in same location as binutils. Notes on configure options: --target is the target you want to compile for. The examples given are if compiling for armel, check the target system name as debian defines for the system you want to cross compile for. --enable-multilib allows multiarch settings (eg, it should enable both ARM and Thumb compilation on armel - but don't quote me on that! :) --disable-libssp disables the stack-smashing protection library. This is because apparently it doesn't build in cross-compiler toolchains. 4) If you manage to successfully compile and install the gcc cross-compiler. Obtain the gdc sources and install into gcc-core (I will tarball a copy up that includes the zlib sources too and post a link). Then rebuild gcc with the same options above above, but with --enable-languages=d included. 5) Report any gdc build errors as bugs. Try to fix any library build errors and send patches! \o/ I suspect there will be issues found where we can also push into upstream Phobos / Druntime which will help make life easier for architecture and platform porters. Any arch-specific implementations that are missing in Druntime, generally you will need to consult the libc sources for that architecture. You can either get glibc or elibc for that (Debian uses elibc). I'll be available on IRC later if you need any real-time assistance - I can forsee it as cross compilers are always ugly to get right :~) Regards -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';I'm going to be pushing gdc-4.8 package into debian this weekend (give about a fortnight for it to land in sid) - is anyone interested in porting Druntime / Phobos over to the architectures that Debian supports? I can give anyone a quick crash course through building a cross compiler if they need it.Hello Iain I do not know how much I would be able to achieve, but I can contribute a reasonable amount of time on this. I would need a crash course though. Let me know how to proceed. Regards - Puneet
Jul 03 2012
On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 10:12:39 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:Hi, I'm going to be pushing gdc-4.8 package into debian this weekend (give about a fortnight for it to land in sid) - isHi, I understand there will be no gdc-4.7 package, so this won't be available on Ubuntu 12.10 which (currently) seems to use the gcc 4.7.1 compiler, while proposing the gdc-4.6 package. Is this true? Any ideas about how this could be installed on Ubuntu 12.10? Should I drop Ubuntu in favor of Debian? Thanks
Jul 03 2012
On 3 July 2012 13:00, akaz <nemo utopia.com> wrote:On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 10:12:39 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:Whoops, typo. Meant 4.7 :-) 4.8 is currently in gcc-snapshot package, don't think there's any way to add gdc onto it. Sorry for any mix up. -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';Hi, I'm going to be pushing gdc-4.8 package into debian this weekend (give about a fortnight for it to land in sid) - isHi, I understand there will be no gdc-4.7 package, so this won't be available on Ubuntu 12.10 which (currently) seems to use the gcc 4.7.1 compiler, while proposing the gdc-4.6 package. Is this true? Any ideas about how this could be installed on Ubuntu 12.10? Should I drop Ubuntu in favor of Debian? Thanks
Jul 03 2012
On 3 July 2012 13:29, Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> wrote:On 3 July 2012 13:00, akaz <nemo utopia.com> wrote:Also, I say you should drop Ubuntu in favour of Debian. :o) Muahaha! Regards -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 10:12:39 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:Whoops, typo. Meant 4.7 :-) 4.8 is currently in gcc-snapshot package, don't think there's any way to add gdc onto it. Sorry for any mix up.Hi, I'm going to be pushing gdc-4.8 package into debian this weekend (give about a fortnight for it to land in sid) - isHi, I understand there will be no gdc-4.7 package, so this won't be available on Ubuntu 12.10 which (currently) seems to use the gcc 4.7.1 compiler, while proposing the gdc-4.6 package. Is this true? Any ideas about how this could be installed on Ubuntu 12.10? Should I drop Ubuntu in favor of Debian? Thanks
Jul 03 2012
Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> writes:On 3 July 2012 13:29, Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> wrote: Also, I say you should drop Ubuntu in favour of Debian. :o)ACK ;-) -- The volume of a pizza of thickness a and radius z can be described by the following formula: pi zz a
Jul 03 2012
On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 17:05:52 Iain Buclaw wrote:Also, I say you should drop Ubuntu in favour of Debian. :o)No, no, no. Use Arch! ;) - Jonathan M Davis
Jul 03 2012
On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 16:39:21 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 17:05:52 Iain Buclaw wrote:Yes! foreach (linux; linuxDistros) { if (linux == user.favDistro && linux.name != "Arch Linux") { writeln("You obviously haven't tried Arch."); writeln("...or couldn't install it...."); } } ... sorry for the spam 8-OAlso, I say you should drop Ubuntu in favour of Debian. :o)No, no, no. Use Arch! ;) - Jonathan M Davis
Jul 03 2012
On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 23:55:24 F i L wrote:On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 16:39:21 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:Or you could always try and get them to go with LFS. LOL. LFS is a great learning tool, but unless you want to be creating your own distro, it's not something that you're going to want to be using normally. I did finish CLFS and get quite a ways through CBLFS on my way to a usably system (if nothing else so thatt I could say that I'd done it), but I gave up when I could never get gtk to build. It was a good learning experience, but it would never make sense to use that as my main system for any real length of time, even if I had managed to finish it. - Jonathan M DavisOn Tuesday, July 03, 2012 17:05:52 Iain Buclaw wrote:Yes! foreach (linux; linuxDistros) { if (linux == user.favDistro && linux.name != "Arch Linux") { writeln("You obviously haven't tried Arch."); writeln("...or couldn't install it...."); } }Also, I say you should drop Ubuntu in favour of Debian. :o)No, no, no. Use Arch! ;) - Jonathan M Davis
Jul 03 2012
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 11:55:24PM +0200, F i L wrote:On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 16:39:21 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:+1.On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 17:05:52 Iain Buclaw wrote:Also, I say you should drop Ubuntu in favour of Debian. :o)-1. ;-)No, no, no. Use Arch! ;)Yes![...] -1. ;-) T -- Amateurs built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic.
Jul 03 2012
On 3 July 2012 17:39, Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg gmx.com> wrote:On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 17:05:52 Iain Buclaw wrote:Just so long as it isn't Gentoo. :o) Afterall, out of all of the linux distros out there, I would say that gentoo takes the least time to mess around... </sarcasm> -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';Also, I say you should drop Ubuntu in favour of Debian. :o)No, no, no. Use Arch! ;) - Jonathan M Davis
Jul 03 2012
On Wednesday, July 04, 2012 00:42:22 Iain Buclaw wrote:On 3 July 2012 17:39, Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg gmx.com> wrote:LOL. I did use Gentoo for a while, but I got sick of things breaking on updates. Arch provides most of the benefits that Gentoo does but defaults to binary packages while letting you build them from source if you want to rather than making _everything_ be built from source. And surprisingly, Arch seems to do a better job of providing bleeding edge packages quickly than Gentoo does (at least for the packages that I care about). But Linux distros are one of those things that you can argue about endlessly. To each their own I guess. - Jonathan M DavisOn Tuesday, July 03, 2012 17:05:52 Iain Buclaw wrote:Just so long as it isn't Gentoo. :o) Afterall, out of all of the linux distros out there, I would say that gentoo takes the least time to mess around... </sarcasm>Also, I say you should drop Ubuntu in favour of Debian. :o)No, no, no. Use Arch! ;) - Jonathan M Davis
Jul 03 2012
On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 at 00:35:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:On Wednesday, July 04, 2012 00:42:22 Iain Buclaw wrote:I found this to be a downside to Arch as there were a few occasions (even in the short time I used it) when breakage occurred, whereas the bleeding edge in Gentoo requires explicit "unmasking". Having been running ~amd64 (unstable) Gentoo for ~6 years on several of my systems, I've found it to be rock solid through all its neat little admin tools, if things don't get taken care of by themselves. Gentoo isn't just portage any more. Arch is little more than pacman.On 3 July 2012 17:39, Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg gmx.com> wrote:LOL. I did use Gentoo for a while, but I got sick of things breaking on updates. Arch provides most of the benefits that Gentoo does but defaults to binary packages while letting you build them from source if you want to rather than making _everything_ be built from source. And surprisingly, Arch seems to do a better job of providing bleeding edge packages quickly than Gentoo does (at least for the packages that I care about).On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 17:05:52 Iain Buclaw wrote:Just so long as it isn't Gentoo. :o) Afterall, out of all of the linux distros out there, I would say that gentoo takes the least time to mess around... </sarcasm>Also, I say you should drop Ubuntu in favour of Debian. :o)No, no, no. Use Arch! ;) - Jonathan M DavisBut Linux distros are one of those things that you can argue about endlessly. To each their own I guess.Indeed :)
Jul 03 2012
On 2012-07-04 02:34, Jonathan M Davis wrote:On Wednesday, July 04, 2012 00:42:22 Iain Buclaw wrote:I agree. I tried LFS and then added portage, which basically made it into Gentoo. I general I like the idea about Gentoo but it just takes too much time. These days I'm staying away from Gentoo and using Ubuntu when I'm using Linux. But we all know that the best Unix-like system is Mac OS X :) -- /Jacob CarlborgJust so long as it isn't Gentoo. :o) Afterall, out of all of the linux distros out there, I would say that gentoo takes the least time to mess around... </sarcasm>LOL. I did use Gentoo for a while, but I got sick of things breaking on updates. Arch provides most of the benefits that Gentoo does but defaults to binary packages while letting you build them from source if you want to rather than making _everything_ be built from source. And surprisingly, Arch seems to do a better job of providing bleeding edge packages quickly than Gentoo does (at least for the packages that I care about). But Linux distros are one of those things that you can argue about endlessly. To each their own I guess.
Jul 04 2012
On 4 July 2012 11:52, Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> wrote:On 2012-07-04 02:34, Jonathan M Davis wrote:Another platform that we need to start testing extensively with GDC. :-) Anyone willing to jump onboard? -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';On Wednesday, July 04, 2012 00:42:22 Iain Buclaw wrote:I agree. I tried LFS and then added portage, which basically made it into Gentoo. I general I like the idea about Gentoo but it just takes too much time. These days I'm staying away from Gentoo and using Ubuntu when I'm using Linux. But we all know that the best Unix-like system is Mac OS X :)Just so long as it isn't Gentoo. :o) Afterall, out of all of the linux distros out there, I would say that gentoo takes the least time to mess around... </sarcasm>LOL. I did use Gentoo for a while, but I got sick of things breaking on updates. Arch provides most of the benefits that Gentoo does but defaults to binary packages while letting you build them from source if you want to rather than making _everything_ be built from source. And surprisingly, Arch seems to do a better job of providing bleeding edge packages quickly than Gentoo does (at least for the packages that I care about). But Linux distros are one of those things that you can argue about endlessly. To each their own I guess.
Jul 04 2012
On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 at 11:18:36 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:On 4 July 2012 11:52, Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> wrote:I'll bite - I'm getting my feet wet again after being away from programming for a long absence, but I'd love to help out if I can. I'm more of a Linux guy than an OSX man, but since my wife insists on using FaceTime to chat with me while we are apart, I'm stuck here in Apple-land! What can I do?On 2012-07-04 02:34, Jonathan M Davis wrote:Another platform that we need to start testing extensively with GDC. :-) Anyone willing to jump onboard?On Wednesday, July 04, 2012 00:42:22 Iain Buclaw wrote:I agree. I tried LFS and then added portage, which basically made it into Gentoo. I general I like the idea about Gentoo but it just takes too much time. These days I'm staying away from Gentoo and using Ubuntu when I'm using Linux. But we all know that the best Unix-like system is Mac OS X :)Just so long as it isn't Gentoo. :o) Afterall, out of all of the linux distros out there, I would say that gentoo takes the least time to mess around... </sarcasm>LOL. I did use Gentoo for a while, but I got sick of things breaking on updates. Arch provides most of the benefits that Gentoo does but defaults to binary packages while letting you build them from source if you want to rather than making _everything_ be built from source. And surprisingly, Arch seems to do a better job of providing bleeding edge packages quickly than Gentoo does (at least for the packages that I care about). But Linux distros are one of those things that you can argue about endlessly. To each their own I guess.
Jul 04 2012
On 5 July 2012 00:19, Jonathan Andrew <jonfandrew gmail.com> wrote:On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 at 11:18:36 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:I've made a gdc-4.7 branch to whom's sources will be used for the packaging of gdc-4.7 and porting. https://github.com/D-Programming-GDC/GDC/tree/gdc-4.7 Let us know if anyone hits any issues building and I'll try to help out best I can. -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';On 4 July 2012 11:52, Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> wrote:I'll bite - I'm getting my feet wet again after being away from programming for a long absence, but I'd love to help out if I can. I'm more of a Linux guy than an OSX man, but since my wife insists on using FaceTime to chat with me while we are apart, I'm stuck here in Apple-land! What can I do?On 2012-07-04 02:34, Jonathan M Davis wrote:Another platform that we need to start testing extensively with GDC. :-) Anyone willing to jump onboard?On Wednesday, July 04, 2012 00:42:22 Iain Buclaw wrote:I agree. I tried LFS and then added portage, which basically made it into Gentoo. I general I like the idea about Gentoo but it just takes too much time. These days I'm staying away from Gentoo and using Ubuntu when I'm using Linux. But we all know that the best Unix-like system is Mac OS X :)Just so long as it isn't Gentoo. :o) Afterall, out of all of the linux distros out there, I would say that gentoo takes the least time to mess around... </sarcasm>LOL. I did use Gentoo for a while, but I got sick of things breaking on updates. Arch provides most of the benefits that Gentoo does but defaults to binary packages while letting you build them from source if you want to rather than making _everything_ be built from source. And surprisingly, Arch seems to do a better job of providing bleeding edge packages quickly than Gentoo does (at least for the packages that I care about). But Linux distros are one of those things that you can argue about endlessly. To each their own I guess.
Jul 06 2012
Obtain the gdc sources and install into gcc-core (I will tarball a copy up that includes the zlib sources too and post a link).Greetings Where would I find the gdc source? Then rebuild gcc with the same options above above, but with--enable-languages=d included.Would this option enable build for D1 or D2? Are we going to port only D2 (I know D2 is officially named D now) or both? Regards - Puneet
Jul 04 2012
On 04-07-2012 16:48, d coder wrote:Obtain the gdc sources and install into gcc-core (I will tarball a copy up that includes the zlib sources too and post a link). Greetings Where would I find the gdc source?https://github.com/D-Programming-GDC/GDCThen rebuild gcc with the same options above above, but with --enable-languages=d included. Would this option enable build for D1 or D2? Are we going to port only D2 (I know D2 is officially named D now) or both?D1 is officially deprecated in GDC; it won't be included in GCC.Regards - Puneet-- Alex Rønne Petersen alex lycus.org http://lycus.org
Jul 04 2012
On 4 July 2012 15:48, d coder <dlang.coder gmail.com> wrote:Working on that, will post it on my project site this afternoon.Obtain the gdc sources and install into gcc-core (I will tarball a copy up that includes the zlib sources too and post a link).Greetings Where would I find the gdc source?D2 only. GDC with D1 had already been ported to all architectures that Debian supported at the time of gcc-4.4. The release of gdc-4.6 marked the switch to D2 and the dropping of all supported architectures except x86 and x86_64. Regards -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';Then rebuild gcc with the same options above above, but with --enable-languages=d included.Would this option enable build for D1 or D2? Are we going to port only D2 (I know D2 is officially named D now) or both?
Jul 04 2012