digitalmars.D - Constraints
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (100/100) May 09 2012 // SAMPLE CONSTRAINTS
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (15/15) May 09 2012 // implement foo's without constraints
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (2/2) May 09 2012 Idea is simple: we need same constraints on "implementation" and
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (2/2) May 09 2012 Sorry I mean "template specialization" instead of "argument
- Chris Cain (14/29) May 09 2012 We can already kind of do what you're asking without a language
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (5/11) May 09 2012 Allways we have some ways to do somethings.
- dennis luehring (3/3) May 09 2012 what is the huge difference between D's current concepts - except that
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (4/7) May 09 2012 There is not a huge difference, but this idea can be extended.
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (2/2) May 09 2012 We can not write a common interface for classes and structs.
- dennis luehring (3/5) May 09 2012 we can write a common interface for both - but not a contract checking o...
- dennis luehring (19/22) May 09 2012 D's concept/constrains system is more powerfull like these C++ concepts
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (12/12) May 10 2012 Sorry about my writing is not very good.
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (45/45) May 10 2012 concept CInputRange(R)
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (97/97) May 10 2012 //====================================================
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (9/9) May 10 2012 Concepts provide us a common interface for structs, classes,
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (2/2) May 10 2012 When I see a better interface than D in another language, it
- dennis luehring (15/24) May 10 2012 but for what then interfaces are?
- =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" (13/22) May 10 2012 Interfaces are for classes, and provides a virtual interface.
- Jacob Carlborg (4/49) May 10 2012 I like this one. Hopefully it could produce better error messages as wel...
- Chris Cain (33/41) May 10 2012 I do kind of like your way better, as it's more succinct and
- Ibrahim Gokhan YANIKLAR (48/91) May 10 2012 isImplicitlyConvertible have to be there because it belongs to a
- Ibrahim Gokhan YANIKLAR (40/45) May 10 2012 An alternative solution:
- travert phare.normalesup.org (Christophe Travert) (41/41) May 11 2012 "Ibrahim Gokhan YANIKLAR" , dans le message (digitalmars.D:166850), a
- Ibrahim Gokhan YANIKLAR (40/88) May 11 2012 Fixed:
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Andrei Alexandrescu
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May 10 2012
On 5/10/12 4:41 AM, "İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR"
" wr... - Jacob Carlborg (4/10) May 10 2012 I have no problem in Thunderbird 12, Mac OS X 10.7.
- =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= (5/19) May 10 2012 No problem in Thunderbird 11.0.1 on a lightweight Ubuntu.
- Sean Kelly (14/21) May 10 2012 properly. Nevertheless I thought you should know.
- Jonathan M Davis (5/13) May 10 2012 Kmail does the same. It didn't even occur to me that that ridiculous str...
// SAMPLE CONSTRAINTS //============================================================= constraint CInputRange { static assert (is(typeof( { typeof(this) r = void; if (r.empty) {} r.popFront(); auto h = r.front; }))); } constraint CForwardRange : CInputRange { static assert (is(typeof( { typeof(this) r1 = void; typeof(this) r2 = r1.save; }))); } constraint CBidirectionalRange : CForwardRange { static assert (is(typeof( { typeof(this) r = void; r.popBack(); auto t = r.back; auto w = r.front; static assert(is(typeof(t) == typeof(w))); }))); } constraint CRandomAccessRange : CBidirectionalRange if (!isInfinite!typeof(this)) { static assert (is(typeof( { typeof(this) r = void; auto e = r[1]; }))); static assert(hasLength!typeof(this)); static assert(!isNarrowString!typeof(this)); } constraint CRandomAccessRange : CForwardRange if (isInfinite!typeof(this)) { static assert (is(typeof( { typeof(this) r = void; auto e = r[1]; }))); } // SAMPLE USAGES //========================================================= struct InputRange : CInputRange // Apply constraint to a struct { .... } struct ForwardRange // Do not apply any constraint but implement a ForwardRange { .... } interface IBidirectionalRange : CBidirectionalRange // Apply constraint to the classes derived from IBidirectionalRange { .... } class BidirectionalRange : IBidirectionalRange // Implement BidirectionalRange and apply constraint CBidirectionalRange { ... } struct RandomAccessFinite : CRandomAccessRange { ... } struct RandomAccessInfinite : CRandomAccessRange { ... } //----------------------------------------------------------- void foo(Range : CInputRange)(Range r) { } // (1) void foo(Range : CForwardRange)(Range r) { } // (2) void foo(Range : CBidirectionalRange)(Range r) { } // (3) void foo(Range : CRandomAccessRange)(Range r) { } // (4) //----------------------------------------------------------- void main() { InputRange ir; ForwardRange fr; auto br = new BidirectionalRange(); RandomAccessFinite rfr; RandomAccessInfinite rir; foo(ir); // calls (1) foo(fr); // calls (2) foo(br); // calls (3) foo(rfr); // calls (4) foo(rir); // calls (4) }
May 09 2012
// implement foo's without constraints //------------------------------------------------------------ void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isInputRange!Range && !isForwardRange!Range) { } void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isForwardRange!Range && !isBidirectionalRange!Range && !isRandomAccessRange!Range) { } void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isBidirectionalRange!Range && !isRandomAccessRange!Range) { } void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isRandomAccessRange!Range) { }
May 09 2012
Idea is simple: we need same constraints on "implementation" and "argument deduction. Syntax may change.
May 09 2012
Sorry I mean "template specialization" instead of "argument deduction".
May 09 2012
We can already kind of do what you're asking without a language feature. For instance, if you want to define that something is a type of range... struct MyRange { ... } static assert(isInputRange!MyRange); // won't compile unless MyRange is an input range On Wednesday, 9 May 2012 at 15:04:51 UTC, İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR wrote:// implement foo's without constraints //------------------------------------------------------------ void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isInputRange!Range && !isForwardRange!Range) { } void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isForwardRange!Range && !isBidirectionalRange!Range && !isRandomAccessRange!Range) { } void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isBidirectionalRange!Range && !isRandomAccessRange!Range) { } void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isRandomAccessRange!Range) { }And these could certainly use some library sugar. How about this: template isJustInputRange(R) { enum bool isJustInputRange = isInputRange!R && !isForwardRange!R; } template isJustForwardRange(R) ...etc...
May 09 2012
Allways we have some ways to do somethings. The question is: which is better, easier and understandable. I think my proposal is better.And these could certainly use some library sugar. How about this: template isJustInputRange(R) { enum bool isJustInputRange = isInputRange!R && !isForwardRange!R; }If we add for example isBufferedInputRange, we have to change isJustInputRange too. It's not a general solution.
May 09 2012
what is the huge difference between D's current concepts - except that your idea allows to derive from concepts? http://dlang.org/concepts.html
May 09 2012
There is not a huge difference, but this idea can be extended. After your reply, I have found this proposal for C++. http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2006/n2081.pdf On Wednesday, 9 May 2012 at 16:40:24 UTC, dennis luehring wrote:what is the huge difference between D's current concepts - except that your idea allows to derive from concepts? http://dlang.org/concepts.html
May 09 2012
We can not write a common interface for classes and structs. Concepts or constraints can provide that.
May 09 2012
Am 09.05.2012 19:07, schrieb "İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR" <yanikibo gmail.com>":We can not write a common interface for classes and structs. Concepts or constraints can provide that.we can write a common interface for both - but not a contract checking one
May 09 2012
Am 09.05.2012 19:02, schrieb "İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR" <yanikibo gmail.com>":There is not a huge difference, but this idea can be extended. After your reply, I have found this proposal for C++. http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2006/n2081.pdfD's concept/constrains system is more powerfull like these C++ concepts (which where discussed very much...) why do i need to derive from one of these concept if i just can write template Bar(T) if (isFloatingPoint!(T)) { ... } and i can combine these concept/constrains checkers without any problem to something like template Bar(T,A,B) if (isFloatingPointAndMySpecialXYZAndSomethingElse!(T,A,B)) { ... } try to compare D's concepts and the proposed C++ concepts and you will find minor differences - or try to show the differences and what your idea makes better
May 09 2012
Sorry about my writing is not very good. We may decide: 1) Which is nicer? 2) Which is easier? 3) Which is more readable and understandable? 4) Which is more automatic? etc. We can do all these stuff by using "boost::enable_if", "boost::mpl::and_", "boost::mpl::or_" in c++, but it is really hard to write, read and understand. The question is: "Can we do it better?" You can choose one of below:
May 10 2012
concept CInputRange(R) { static assert (isDefinable!R); static assert (isRange!R); bool empty(); void popFront(); ElementType!R front(); } concept CForwardRange(R) : CInputRange!R { R save(); } concept CBidirectionalRange(R) : CForwardRange!R { void popBack(); ElementType!R back(); } concept CRandomAccessRange(R) : CBidirectionalRange!R if (!isInfinite!R) { static assert (is(typeof(R.init[1]))); static assert(hasLength!R); static assert(!isNarrowString!R); } concept CRandomAccessRange(R) : CForwardRange!R if (isInfinite!R) { static assert (is(typeof(R.init[1]))); } //----------------------------------------------------------- struct InputRange : CInputRange; // same as struct InputRange : CInputRange!InputRange struct ForwardRange; // Satisfies CForwardRange concept but don't apply it interface IBidirectionalRange : CBidirectionalRange; // Apply concept to the classes derived from IBidirectionalRange class BidirectionalRange : IBidirectionalRange; // Implement IBidirectionalRange and apply CBidirectionalRange struct RandomAccessFinite : CRandomAccessRange; struct RandomAccessInfinite : CRandomAccessRange; //----------------------------------------------------------- void foo(Range : CInputRange)(Range r) { } void foo(Range : CForwardRange)(Range r) { } void foo(Range : CBidirectionalRange)(Range r) { } void foo(Range : CRandomAccessRange)(Range r) { }
May 10 2012
//==================================================== //== OR === //==================================================== template isInputRange(R) { enum bool isInputRange = is(typeof( { R r = void; // can define a range object if (r.empty) {} // can test for empty r.popFront(); // can invoke popFront() auto h = r.front; // can get the front of the range })); } template isJustInputRange(R) { enum bool isJustInputRange = isInputRange!R && !isForwardRange!R; } template isForwardRange(R) { enum bool isForwardRange = isInputRange!R && is(typeof( { R r1 = void; R r2 = r1.save; // can call "save" against a range object })); } template isJustForwardRange(R) { enum bool isJustForwardRange = isForwardRange!R && !isBidirectionalRange!R && !isRandomAccessRange!R; } template isBidirectionalRange(R) { enum bool isBidirectionalRange = isForwardRange!R && is(typeof( { R r = void; r.popBack(); auto t = r.back; auto w = r.front; static assert(is(typeof(t) == typeof(w))); })); } template isJustBidirectionalRange(R) { enum bool isJustBidirectionalRange = isBidirectionalRange!R && !isRandomAccessRange!R; } template isRandomAccessRange(R) { enum bool isRandomAccessRange = is(typeof( { static assert(isBidirectionalRange!R || isForwardRange!R && isInfinite!R); R r = void; auto e = r[1]; static assert(!isNarrowString!R); static assert(hasLength!R || isInfinite!R); })); } //----------------------------------------------------------- struct InputRange { .... static assert (isInputRange!InputRange); } struct ForwardRange { .... static assert (isForwardRange!ForwardRange); } interface IBidirectionalRange { .... // static assert (isBidirectionalRange!IBidirectionalRange); // can not be used in interfaces } class BidirectionalRange : IBidirectionalRange { ... static assert (isBidirectionalRange!BidirectionalRange); } struct RandomAccessFinite { ... static assert (isRandomAccessRange!RandomAccessFinite); } struct RandomAccessInfinite { ... static assert (isRandomAccessRange!RandomAccessInfinite); } //----------------------------------------------------------- void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isJustInputRange!Range) { } void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isJustForwardRange!Range) { } void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isJustBidirectionalRange!Range) { } void foo(Range)(Range r) if (isRandomAccessRange!Range) { }
May 10 2012
Concepts provide us a common interface for structs, classes, interfaces, even arrays. Concepts can be practically extended. Concepts can be used for template specialization and as compile time constraints and as a static interface. Also we can use concepts as traits like that: static if (is(T : Concept)) { } instead of static if (satisfiesConcept!T) { }
May 10 2012
When I see a better interface than D in another language, it really bothers me.
May 10 2012
Am 10.05.2012 11:55, schrieb "İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR" <yanikibo gmail.com>":Concepts provide us a common interface for structs, classes, interfaces, even arrays.but for what then interfaces are? but what concept should for example an array have? the typecheck of the array itself???Concepts can be practically extended.if your world is very OOPish orientated - but the generic world keeps itself away from "derived functionality"Concepts can be used for template specialization and as compile time constraints and as a static interface.D current concepts can also be used like that - you just implement a very lossy tied boolean expression (direct or as function) and thats it - that is pure generic thinking you don't need to be part of an hierarchy - just have the shape that is neededAlso we can use concepts as traits like that: static if (is(T : Concept)) { } instead of static if (satisfiesConcept!T) { }but the type should only satisfy the concept its does not need to derived from that - think of the thoundsand of specialised concept-classes that will occure (for example in phobos)
May 10 2012
but for what then interfaces are?Interfaces are for classes, and provides a virtual interface. Concepts are for all, and provides a generic, static interface. Not to use as base class.but what concept should for example an array have? the typecheck of the array itself???For example CInputRange can be used for arrays, or other ranges that did not derived from CInputRange. It's only have some constraints.if your world is very OOPish orientated - but the generic world keeps itself away from "derived functionality"Not derived functionality, derived constraints. When you derive a concept you only compose the constraints by AND logic.but the type should only satisfy the concept its does not need to derived from that - think of the thoundsand of specialised concept-classes that will occure (for example in phobos)You can use a different syntax instead of inheritance. Simple things should be done by using template constraints. I did not offer to remove template constraints. So if you need an interface like Ranges you use concepts, if you don't need an interface you use template constraints.
May 10 2012
On 2012-05-10 11:42, "İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR" <yanikibo gmail.com>" wrote:concept CInputRange(R) { static assert (isDefinable!R); static assert (isRange!R); bool empty(); void popFront(); ElementType!R front(); } concept CForwardRange(R) : CInputRange!R { R save(); } concept CBidirectionalRange(R) : CForwardRange!R { void popBack(); ElementType!R back(); } concept CRandomAccessRange(R) : CBidirectionalRange!R if (!isInfinite!R) { static assert (is(typeof(R.init[1]))); static assert(hasLength!R); static assert(!isNarrowString!R); } concept CRandomAccessRange(R) : CForwardRange!R if (isInfinite!R) { static assert (is(typeof(R.init[1]))); } //----------------------------------------------------------- struct InputRange : CInputRange; // same as struct InputRange : CInputRange!InputRange struct ForwardRange; // Satisfies CForwardRange concept but don't apply it interface IBidirectionalRange : CBidirectionalRange; // Apply concept to the classes derived from IBidirectionalRange class BidirectionalRange : IBidirectionalRange; // Implement IBidirectionalRange and apply CBidirectionalRange struct RandomAccessFinite : CRandomAccessRange; struct RandomAccessInfinite : CRandomAccessRange; //----------------------------------------------------------- void foo(Range : CInputRange)(Range r) { } void foo(Range : CForwardRange)(Range r) { } void foo(Range : CBidirectionalRange)(Range r) { } void foo(Range : CRandomAccessRange)(Range r) { }I like this one. Hopefully it could produce better error messages as well. -- /Jacob Carlborg
May 10 2012
I do kind of like your way better, as it's more succinct and clear. As of right now I rarely use classes in D because they just aren't necessary in most cases, and using structs with templates is nearly as powerful and (probably) generates faster code (although, probably fatter code as well as it has to make several versions of the same functions depending on the types). With your idea, it seems like I would have even less need for classes because you can specify "interfaces" to that generic code. That all said, I think your code is tiny bit unrealistic in terms of usage for these things which make them look far more useful than they really would be. Take, for instance, some actual code: https://gist.github.com/2d32de50d2e856c00e9d#file_insert_back.d So, in this case, I see no potential savings at all. I'd still have to have "isImplicitlyConvertible" in there and therefore I'd still need the current constraint on the method. My insertFront method is more complicated: https://gist.github.com/2d32de50d2e856c00e9d#file_insert_front.d But even though it's more complicated, I'd also like to see how your method would simplify this as well. Overall, I think it sounds nice in theory, but I'm just not sure how effective it will be in practice. I hope I'm not asking too much of you... I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm asking genuine questions about how this will work on more realistic code. On Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 09:43:00 UTC, İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR wrote:concept CInputRange(R) { static assert (isDefinable!R); static assert (isRange!R); bool empty(); void popFront(); ElementType!R front(); }Also, something that would _have_ to be solved is ElementType!R ... as of right now, ElementType!R figures out what a range holds by what its front() property returns. So, I think this definition would be invalid. However, once we can show that this will improve things on real code and these things are sorted out, I wouldn't mind seeing this in the language.
May 10 2012
On Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 14:44:00 UTC, Chris Cain wrote:I do kind of like your way better, as it's more succinct and clear. As of right now I rarely use classes in D because they just aren't necessary in most cases, and using structs with templates is nearly as powerful and (probably) generates faster code (although, probably fatter code as well as it has to make several versions of the same functions depending on the types). With your idea, it seems like I would have even less need for classes because you can specify "interfaces" to that generic code. That all said, I think your code is tiny bit unrealistic in terms of usage for these things which make them look far more useful than they really would be. Take, for instance, some actual code: https://gist.github.com/2d32de50d2e856c00e9d#file_insert_back.d So, in this case, I see no potential savings at all. I'd still have to have "isImplicitlyConvertible" in there and therefore I'd still need the current constraint on the method. My insertFront method is more complicated: https://gist.github.com/2d32de50d2e856c00e9d#file_insert_front.disImplicitlyConvertible have to be there because it belongs to a template parameter out of the member function template parameters.But even though it's more complicated, I'd also like to see how your method would simplify this as well.void insertFront(U : T)(U item) { ... } void insertFront(Range : CBidirectionalRange)(Range r) if(isImplicitlyConvertible!(ElementType!Range, T)) { ... } void insertFront(Range : CInputRange)(Range r) if(isImplicitlyConvertible!(ElementType!Range, T)) { ... }Overall, I think it sounds nice in theory, but I'm just not sure how effective it will be in practice. I hope I'm not asking too much of you... I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm asking genuine questions about how this will work on more realistic code. On Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 09:43:00 UTC, İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR wrote:It can be fixed like that: concept CInputRange(R, E) { static assert (isDefinable!R); static assert (isRange!R); bool empty(); void popFront(); E front(); } concept CForwardRange(R, E) : CInputRange!(R, E) { R save(); } concept CBidirectionalRange(R, E) : CForwardRange!(R, E) { void popBack(); E back(); } concept CRandomAccessRange(R, E) : CBidirectionalRange!(R, E) if (!isInfinite!R) { static assert (is(typeof(R.init[1]))); static assert(hasLength!R); static assert(!isNarrowString!R); } concept CRandomAccessRange(R, E) : CForwardRange!(R, E) if (isInfinite!R) { static assert (is(typeof(R.init[1]))); } The first template parameter is reserved for "typeof(this)", the others are deduced automatically.concept CInputRange(R) { static assert (isDefinable!R); static assert (isRange!R); bool empty(); void popFront(); ElementType!R front(); }Also, something that would _have_ to be solved is ElementType!R ... as of right now, ElementType!R figures out what a range holds by what its front() property returns. So, I think this definition would be invalid.However, once we can show that this will improve things on real code and these things are sorted out, I wouldn't mind seeing this in the language.When we prefer generic programming rather than oop (where oop is applicable), we will absolutely need an interface to make things as simple and practical as oop. Interfaces are not used always for polymorphism, sometimes we need only an interface to satisfy common needs. Sometimes the current status of D canalizes us to use classes and interfaces although it is not effective. The concept concept may meet these needs. :)
May 10 2012
void insertFront(U : T)(U item) { ... } void insertFront(Range : CBidirectionalRange)(Range r) if(isImplicitlyConvertible!(ElementType!Range, T)) { ... } void insertFront(Range : CInputRange)(Range r) if(isImplicitlyConvertible!(ElementType!Range, T)) { ... }An alternative solution: concept CInputRange(R, E, T = E) { static assert (isDefinable!R); static assert (isRange!R); bool empty(); void popFront(); E front(); static assert (isImplicitlyConvertible!(E, T)); } concept CForwardRange(R, E, T = E) : CInputRange!(R, E, T) { R save(); } concept CBidirectionalRange(R, E, T = E) : CForwardRange!(R, E, T) { void popBack(); E back(); } concept CRandomAccessRange(R, E, T = E) : CBidirectionalRange!(R, E, T) if (!isInfinite!R) { static assert (is(typeof(R.init[1]))); static assert(hasLength!R); static assert(!isNarrowString!R); } concept CRandomAccessRange(R, E, T = E) : CForwardRange!(R, E, T) if (isInfinite!R) { static assert (is(typeof(R.init[1]))); } Then we can use this concepts in your functions like: void insertFront(U : T)(U item) { ... } void insertFront(Range : CBidirectionalRange!T)(Range r) { ... } void insertFront(Range : CInputRange!T)(Range r) { ... } The rule is simple: Do not specify the first parameter (e.g. "R": reserved for typeof(this)) and the automatically deduced parameters (e.g. "E": deduced from return type of "front()").
May 10 2012
"Ibrahim Gokhan YANIKLAR" , dans le message (digitalmars.D:166850), a écrit : I would even have: concept CInputRange(E) { alias E ElementType; static assert (isDefinable!typeof(this)); static assert (isRange!typeof(this)); property bool empty(); property void popFront(); property ElementType front(); } Concepts allows to state your intent when you create a type. It self documents the code more nicely that a static assert. It would be much easier for newcomers to understand concepts. Finally, by creating a hierarchy, concepts allows to determine which is the more specialized template. Even if it is not a priority to add this to the langage, I don't think it is just syntactic sugar. Several problems should be solved though: concept CInfiniteRange(E) : CInputRange(E) { // empty was declared to be a property, here it is an enum. enum bool empty = false; // or: final bool empty() { return false; } } struct SimpleCounter(E) : CInfiniteRange(E) { // front was declared as a property, here it is a member variable E front = 0; void popFront() { ++front; } //or: E front_ = 0; property E front() const { return front_; } // now front is const property void popFront() { ++front_; } } It will not be obvious to define what is allowed and what is not so that the flexibility of current template constraints is reached, while keeping the definition natural. -- Christophe
May 11 2012
On Friday, 11 May 2012 at 07:58:54 UTC, travert phare.normalesup.org (Christophe Travert) wrote:"Ibrahim Gokhan YANIKLAR" , dans le message (digitalmars.D:166850), a écrit : I would even have: concept CInputRange(E) { alias E ElementType; static assert (isDefinable!typeof(this)); static assert (isRange!typeof(this)); property bool empty(); property void popFront(); property ElementType front(); } Concepts allows to state your intent when you create a type. It self documents the code more nicely that a static assert. It would be much easier for newcomers to understand concepts. Finally, by creating a hierarchy, concepts allows to determine which is the more specialized template. Even if it is not a priority to add this to the langage, I don't think it is just syntactic sugar. Several problems should be solved though: concept CInfiniteRange(E) : CInputRange(E) { // empty was declared to be a property, here it is an enum. enum bool empty = false; // or: final bool empty() { return false; } } struct SimpleCounter(E) : CInfiniteRange(E) { // front was declared as a property, here it is a member variable E front = 0; void popFront() { ++front; } //or: E front_ = 0; property E front() const { return front_; } // now front is const property void popFront() { ++front_; } } It will not be obvious to define what is allowed and what is not so that the flexibility of current template constraints is reached, while keeping the definition natural.Fixed: concept CInputRange(R, E, T = E) { static assert (isDefinable!R); static assert (isRange!R); property bool empty(); void popFront(); property E front(); static assert (isImplicitlyConvertible!(E, T)); } concept CForwardRange(R, E, T = E) : CInputRange!(R, E, T) { property R save(); } concept CBidirectionalRange(R, E, T = E) : CForwardRange!(R, E, T) { void popBack(); property E back(); } concept CRandomAccessRange(R, E, T = E) : CBidirectionalRange!(R, E, T) if (!isInfinite!R) { static assert (is(typeof(R.init[1]))); static assert(hasLength!R); static assert(!isNarrowString!R); } concept CRandomAccessRange(R, E, T = E) : CForwardRange!(R, E, T) if (isInfinite!R) { static assert (is(typeof(R.init[1]))); } Using the first template parameter as typeof(this) is more effective. The ElementType ( E ) can be deduced from the type ( or return type ) of front. When we declare front as a property, it should match both property functions and enums.
May 11 2012
On 5/10/12 4:41 AM, "İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR" <yanikibo gmail.com>" wrote: Unrelated, but your name appears in Thunderbird as =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" I think this is Thunderbird's fault because forum.dlang.org shows it properly. Nevertheless I thought you should know. Andrei
May 10 2012
On 2012-05-10 16:46, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:On 5/10/12 4:41 AM, "İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR" <yanikibo gmail.com>" wrote: Unrelated, but your name appears in Thunderbird as =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" I think this is Thunderbird's fault because forum.dlang.org shows it properly. Nevertheless I thought you should know. AndreiI have no problem in Thunderbird 12, Mac OS X 10.7. -- /Jacob Carlborg
May 10 2012
On 05/10/2012 09:50 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:On 2012-05-10 16:46, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:No problem in Thunderbird 11.0.1 on a lightweight Ubuntu. Ali -- D Programming Language Tutorial: http://ddili.org/ders/d.en/index.htmlOn 5/10/12 4:41 AM, "İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR" <yanikibo gmail.com>" wrote: Unrelated, but your name appears in Thunderbird as =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" I think this is Thunderbird's fault because forum.dlang.org shows it properly. Nevertheless I thought you should know. AndreiI have no problem in Thunderbird 12, Mac OS X 10.7.
May 10 2012
On May 10, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:On 5/10/12 4:41 AM, "=C4=B0brahim G=C3=B6khan YANIKLAR" =<yanikibo gmail.com>" wrote:=20 Unrelated, but your name appears in Thunderbird as =20 =3D?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=3D?=3D YANIKLAR" =20 I think this is Thunderbird's fault because forum.dlang.org shows it =properly. Nevertheless I thought you should know. I haven't seen an email client yet that fully supports Q-encoding (well, = except the one I wrote of course ;-)). At a glance, that looks = correctly formatted. In short, the underlying data is in UTF-8, and the = "B" means that the payload is encoded as Base64. If anyone cares to = file a bug with Thunderbird, it's RFC 2047. To be fair to the = Thunderbird folks, the problem may actually be that they're doing the = full RFC required validation to determine if something is Q-encoded. = The sad truth is that basically no clients obey all the formatting = rules, and nearly all the required validation has to be disabled or a = huge percentage of stuff meant to be Q-encoded is rejected as invalid = and displayed as-is.=
May 10 2012
On Thursday, May 10, 2012 09:46:42 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:On 5/10/12 4:41 AM, "İbrahim Gökhan YANIKLAR" <yanikibo gmail.com>" wrote: Unrelated, but your name appears in Thunderbird as =?UTF-8?B?IsSwYnJhaGltIEfDtmtoYW4=?= YANIKLAR" I think this is Thunderbird's fault because forum.dlang.org shows it properly. Nevertheless I thought you should know.Kmail does the same. It didn't even occur to me that that ridiculous string _wasn't_ his username. I was tempted to point out how ridicilous a name it was but didn't want to be rude. - Jonathan M Davis
May 10 2012