digitalmars.D - Broken NVI support
- Maxim Fomin (25/25) Aug 13 2012 Hello.
- Era Scarecrow (14/17) Aug 13 2012 [quote]
- Simen Kjaeraas (7/10) Aug 13 2012 As Era pointed out, private functions in D are implicitly final, i.e.
- Jonathan M Davis (7/9) Aug 13 2012 Currently, only public and protected functions are ever virtual:
- Maxim Fomin (1/1) Aug 13 2012 Thanks for replies, will use protected.
Hello. Please, put attention to following non-runnable due to linker errors sample http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/cad4b558. I suspect that that NVI support is broken, because (my guess) linker assumes that interface should implement functions and doesn't look to class definition. After reading relevant section in TDPL I found another issue: according to p.215 bar() and baz() may have (or even should) 'override' specifier, but currently dmd rejects it. Moreover, dmd is irrelevant about whether 'bar' and 'baz' functions (within class definition) are specified with private keyword or not: is is a bug or intentional behavior? If interface implements functions, which are called from another of interface's functions, linking goes fine. However, after rereading relevant TDPL paragraph and this Alexandrescu post [1] I think that the trick is that functions 'bar' and 'baz' are implemented *not* in interface but in class-implementer. Furthermore, if function declarations are converted to empty definitions keeping the same class definitions, dmd accepts this ambiguity (class A.bar() and interface I.bar()) and gives priority to interface's functions on calling them. So, is this a bug or my NVI misunderstanding is wrong and what is D design policy in this issue? [1] http://digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/The_Non-Virtual_Interface_idiom_in_D_96739.html
Aug 13 2012
On Monday, 13 August 2012 at 18:48:09 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote:Hello. Please, put attention to following non-runnable due to linker errors sample http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/cad4b558.[quote] interface I { private: void bar(); void baz(); final void foo() [/quote] Isn't it in the specs that overriding methods need to be public functions? And interfaces are effectively for public interface only so there shouldn't be any private methods? I mean, what's the point in mentioning bar and baz if you can't call them? Or even foo in this case....
Aug 13 2012
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:48:07 +0200, Maxim Fomin <maxim maxim-fomin.ru> wrote:Hello. Please, put attention to following non-runnable due to linker errors sample http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/cad4b558.As Era pointed out, private functions in D are implicitly final, i.e. not overridable. Change all instances of 'private' to 'protected', and Bob is your proverbial uncle. -- Simen
Aug 13 2012
On Monday, August 13, 2012 20:48:07 Maxim Fomin wrote:So, is this a bug or my NVI misunderstanding is wrong and what is D design policy in this issue?Currently, only public and protected functions are ever virtual: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4542 This may or may not change for interfaces in order to match TDPL, but I wouldn't expect it to ever change for classes. You should be able to do NVI just fine with protected. - Jonathan M Davis
Aug 13 2012