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reply Lodovico Giaretta <lodovico giaretart.net> writes:
I don't know much about PRs and the autotester, so I'm probably 
wrong, but...
It looks like [1] the autotester farm is down: most hosts have 
been unreachable for more than two hours and a half, as of this 
writing.

This may slow down the PRs, as all FreeBSD and all Windows hosts 
are gone.

Is it known and expected (maybe maintainance)?

[1] https://auto-tester.puremagic.com/hosts/
Aug 15 2016
next sibling parent Lodovico Giaretta <lodovico giaretart.net> writes:
On Monday, 15 August 2016 at 19:55:35 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta 
wrote:

 It looks like [1] the autotester farm is down: most hosts have 
 been unreachable for more than two hours and a half, as of this 
 writing.

 [1] https://auto-tester.puremagic.com/hosts/


Ping. Almost five hours now.
Aug 15 2016
prev sibling parent reply Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
Network connectivity issues.  That set of machines runs out of my house and the
comcast connection 
isn't happy, apparently.

On 8/15/16 12:55 PM, Lodovico Giaretta via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 I don't know much about PRs and the autotester, so I'm probably wrong, but...
 It looks like [1] the autotester farm is down: most hosts have been
unreachable for more than two
 hours and a half, as of this writing.

 This may slow down the PRs, as all FreeBSD and all Windows hosts are gone.

 Is it known and expected (maybe maintainance)?

 [1] https://auto-tester.puremagic.com/hosts/
Aug 15 2016
parent reply wobbles <grogan.colin gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 15 August 2016 at 22:33:26 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:

 Network connectivity issues.  That set of machines runs out of 
 my house and the comcast connection isn't happy, apparently.

 On 8/15/16 12:55 PM, Lodovico Giaretta via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 I don't know much about PRs and the autotester, so I'm 
 probably wrong, but...
 It looks like [1] the autotester farm is down: most hosts have 
 been unreachable for more than two
 hours and a half, as of this writing.

 This may slow down the PRs, as all FreeBSD and all Windows 
 hosts are gone.

 Is it known and expected (maybe maintainance)?

 [1] https://auto-tester.puremagic.com/hosts/




I wonder how much it would cost to host this in AWS?
I imagine it wouldn't be that big a job (famous last words)... 
plus - I'm sure you don't want to be paying for power and 
internet bandwidth for it forever either.

Now that we have the foundation - this should all be fundable 
(hell, I'm sure most of us here wouldn't mind donating if it took 
that!)
Aug 17 2016
parent reply Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 8/17/16 3:27 PM, wobbles via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 On Monday, 15 August 2016 at 22:33:26 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:

 Network connectivity issues.  That set of machines runs out of my house and
the comcast connection
 isn't happy, apparently.

 On 8/15/16 12:55 PM, Lodovico Giaretta via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 I don't know much about PRs and the autotester, so I'm probably wrong, but...
 It looks like [1] the autotester farm is down: most hosts have been
unreachable for more than two
 hours and a half, as of this writing.

 This may slow down the PRs, as all FreeBSD and all Windows hosts are gone.

 Is it known and expected (maybe maintainance)?

 [1] https://auto-tester.puremagic.com/hosts/




 I wonder how much it would cost to host this in AWS?
 I imagine it wouldn't be that big a job (famous last words)... plus - I'm sure
you don't want to be
 paying for power and internet bandwidth for it forever either.

 Now that we have the foundation - this should all be fundable (hell, I'm sure
most of us here
 wouldn't mind donating if it took that!)


Several of the machines are run out of aws.  The cost of running a windows
instance inside aws is 
pretty awful.  Shrug.. it's a wash, for the most part.
Aug 17 2016
next sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 8/17/2016 4:13 PM, Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 Several of the machines are run out of aws.  The cost of running a windows
 instance inside aws is pretty awful.  Shrug.. it's a wash, for the most part.


For the ones in house, I wonder if it would be cost effective to replace them 
with ones that draw less power. For example, Win7 laptops can be picked up at 
the pawn shop for about $150. Put an SSD drive in them, max out the ram, turn 
off the display, and run them. Of course, they'll be slow, but that may not 
matter if 2 or 3 running in parallel can replace a single power hungry machine.
Aug 17 2016
next sibling parent Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 8/17/16 4:47 PM, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 On 8/17/2016 4:13 PM, Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 Several of the machines are run out of aws.  The cost of running a windows
 instance inside aws is pretty awful.  Shrug.. it's a wash, for the most part.


 For the ones in house, I wonder if it would be cost effective to replace them
with ones that draw
 less power. For example, Win7 laptops can be picked up at the pawn shop for
about $150. Put an SSD
 drive in them, max out the ram, turn off the display, and run them. Of course,
they'll be slow, but
 that may not matter if 2 or 3 running in parallel can replace a single power
hungry machine.


More slow machines would increase throughput, but would also hurt latency. 
Both are important, for 
different reasons.  MOST of the equipment is old hardware, so newer machines
would also tend to be 
faster.  I'd be willing to accept donations of any i5 or better hardware (maybe
i3, reluctantly). 
Even better would be for me to just get shell access to machines that someone
else hosts.  It 
doesn't need to all be centralized in my house.
Aug 17 2016
prev sibling parent Seb <seb wilzba.ch> writes:
On Wednesday, 17 August 2016 at 23:47:33 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

 On 8/17/2016 4:13 PM, Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 Several of the machines are run out of aws.  The cost of 
 running a windows
 instance inside aws is pretty awful.  Shrug.. it's a wash, for 
 the most part.


 For the ones in house, I wonder if it would be cost effective 
 to replace them with ones that draw less power. For example, 
 Win7 laptops can be picked up at the pawn shop for about $150. 
 Put an SSD drive in them, max out the ram, turn off the 
 display, and run them. Of course, they'll be slow, but that may 
 not matter if 2 or 3 running in parallel can replace a single 
 power hungry machine.


Some points that I can throw into the discussion:

1) There are several small companies (e.g. http://winity.io/) 
that offer moderately cheap Windows VPS machines, but I don't 
know how much power you get in the end
2) I don't think that the connection is an issue as long as one 
has a decent down link (even this could be avoided if we cache 
the git clone locally)
3) I really like the idea of stocking up some laptops :)
4) I heard that in Moldavia one only pays about 7€/month for a 
100M/down connection ;-)
5) At my universities every group has its owns clusters, because 
bureaucracy is so complicated that you can't get access to the 
big ones, and as you would expect, they usually idle around the 
entire day ...
6) AppVeyor (http://appveyor.com) provides one concurrent job 
(with 2 cores) for free for open-source projects and if I read 
their pricing correctly they charge 25$ for each additional 
concurrent job as OSS get a heavy discount. Since they switched 
to their new Hypervisor [1], the builds are even twice as fast 
than Travis (for mir) :)

[1] 
https://www.appveyor.com/blog/2016/07/16/migration-to-rackspace/
Aug 17 2016
prev sibling parent reply wobbles <grogan.colin gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 17 August 2016 at 23:13:52 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:

 On 8/17/16 3:27 PM, wobbles via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 On Monday, 15 August 2016 at 22:33:26 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:

 [...]




 I wonder how much it would cost to host this in AWS?
 I imagine it wouldn't be that big a job (famous last words)... 
 plus - I'm sure you don't want to be
 paying for power and internet bandwidth for it forever either.

 Now that we have the foundation - this should all be fundable 
 (hell, I'm sure most of us here
 wouldn't mind donating if it took that!)


 Several of the machines are run out of aws.  The cost of 
 running a windows instance inside aws is pretty awful.  Shrug.. 
 it's a wash, for the most part.


Ah yes, I forgot about windows :/
Aug 18 2016
parent jmh530 <john.michael.hall gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 18 August 2016 at 08:06:21 UTC, wobbles wrote:

 Ah yes, I forgot about windows :/


How expensive is Azure?
Aug 18 2016