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digitalmars.D - Any actuaries using D?

reply data pulverizer <data.pulverizer gmail.com> writes:
Hi all,

I've been asked to give a 15 minute presentation at an insurance 
conference introducing the D programming language. At the end of 
the presentation, I shall include example of companies in the 
"success stories" part of the Dlang website, but I wondered if 
there are any actuaries hiding in the community that are using D 
for reserving, pricing, capital modelling, or insurance 
infrastructure, so that I can use what they are doing as a highly 
relevant example.

Thanks
Mar 06 2021
parent reply Max Haughton <maxhaton gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 19:53:30 UTC, data pulverizer wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've been asked to give a 15 minute presentation at an 
 insurance conference introducing the D programming language. At 
 the end of the presentation, I shall include example of 
 companies in the "success stories" part of the Dlang website, 
 but I wondered if there are any actuaries hiding in the 
 community that are using D for reserving, pricing, capital 
 modelling, or insurance infrastructure, so that I can use what 
 they are doing as a highly relevant example.

 Thanks


Symmetry investments almost definitely do this kind of this (in a 
vague sense) - whether they can tell you anything about is 
another matter.
Mar 06 2021
parent reply jmh530 <john.michael.hall gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 05:23:38 UTC, Max Haughton wrote:

 [snip]

 Symmetry investments almost definitely do this kind of this (in 
 a vague sense) - whether they can tell you anything about is 
 another matter.


Hedge fund != actuary
Mar 07 2021
parent reply Bastiaan Veelo <Bastiaan Veelo.net> writes:
On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 11:26:53 UTC, jmh530 wrote:

 On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 05:23:38 UTC, Max Haughton wrote:

 [snip]

 Symmetry investments almost definitely do this kind of this 
 (in a vague sense) - whether they can tell you anything about 
 is another matter.


 Hedge fund != actuary


As far as I understand, calculating risks is a big thing at 
Symmetry. That's a core activity for an actuary as well.

— Bastiaan
Mar 07 2021
parent reply jmh530 <john.michael.hall gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 11:43:11 UTC, Bastiaan Veelo wrote:

 [snip]

 Hedge fund != actuary


 As far as I understand, calculating risks is a big thing at 
 Symmetry. That's a core activity for an actuary as well.

 — Bastiaan


Calculating risks is a big field. There will certainly be some 
overlap between techniques that an insurance firm (particularly 
on annuities and as it relates to asset management) and a 
hypothetical hedge fund might use. However, actuaries are also 
thinking about a wider range of risks. For instance, a life 
insurance company cares a lot more about longevity risk than most 
hedge funds. Both might care about how market risks affect them.

In addition, there are many different types of hedge fund (e.g. 
equity long/short or discretionary macro). The risks that hedge 
funds focus on will be different across different strategies (and 
some may take more or less quantitative approaches to thinking 
about those risks).
Mar 07 2021
parent reply data pulverizer <data.pulverizer gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 12:11:53 UTC, jmh530 wrote:

 On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 11:43:11 UTC, Bastiaan Veelo wrote:

 [snip]

 Hedge fund != actuary


 As far as I understand, calculating risks is a big thing at 
 Symmetry. That's a core activity for an actuary as well.

 — Bastiaan


 Calculating risks is a big field. There will certainly be some 
 overlap between techniques that an insurance firm (particularly 
 on annuities and as it relates to asset management) and a 
 hypothetical hedge fund might use. ...


Rumors that a hedge fund is using some technology or another 
always plays well - almost regardless of the audience, so I might 
lean into the fact Symmetry is using D a little more.

Any further details not already in the DConf videos and on GitHub 
libraries would be useful.

Thanks
Mar 07 2021
next sibling parent James Lu <jamtlu gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 19:06:47 UTC, data pulverizer wrote:

 Any further details not already in the DConf videos and on 
 GitHub libraries would be useful.


Symmetry invests heavily in D. They hire several new D 
programmers every year, run the Summer Autumn of Code (like 
Google Summer of Code, but focused on D Language.)

Laeeth Isharc, member of Symmetry's governing body, the Executive 
Committee, regularly visits and comments in the D forums. 
https://symmetryinvestments.com/about-us/
Mar 07 2021
prev sibling parent reply John Colvin <john.loughran.colvin gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 19:06:47 UTC, data pulverizer wrote:

 On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 12:11:53 UTC, jmh530 wrote:

 On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 11:43:11 UTC, Bastiaan Veelo wrote:

 [snip]

 Hedge fund != actuary


 As far as I understand, calculating risks is a big thing at 
 Symmetry. That's a core activity for an actuary as well.

 — Bastiaan


 Calculating risks is a big field. There will certainly be some 
 overlap between techniques that an insurance firm 
 (particularly on annuities and as it relates to asset 
 management) and a hypothetical hedge fund might use. ...


 Rumors that a hedge fund is using some technology or another 
 always plays well - almost regardless of the audience, so I 
 might lean into the fact Symmetry is using D a little more.

 Any further details not already in the DConf videos and on 
 GitHub libraries would be useful.

 Thanks


We use D very heavily at Symmetry and have been investing time 
and money in to using it for 4-5 years, with the amount invested 
increasing significantly over that time. Since I started getting 
involved back then it's gone from me chatting to Laeeth to a 
substantial number of full-time D programmers with quite a few 
familiar faces from these forums & dconf. It's definitely beyond 
the rumour stage at this point!

We are hiring D developers and people with experience in other 
languages, opportunities to write D are plentiful at Symmetry. 
See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26312185 for more 
details.
Mar 08 2021
parent data pulverizer <data.pulverizer gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 10:18:48 UTC, John Colvin wrote:

 We are hiring D developers and people with experience in other 
 languages, opportunities to write D are plentiful at Symmetry. 
 See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26312185 for more 
 details.


Cool. I've just emailed in my CV. The link indicates to use the 
email "hiring at symmetry.dev" which I got an email failure so I 
used "hiring at symmetryinvestments dot com" as well as the CC 
email address which went through. I hope this is okay.

Thanks.
Mar 08 2021