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reply Joakim <dlang joakim.fea.st> writes:
Enjoying going through these:

http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no_pause.pdf

Ali really has a gift for explaining stuff, we're lucky to have 
him.
May 23 2017
next sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 05/23/2017 04:31 PM, Joakim wrote:

 Enjoying going through these:

 http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no_pause.pdf


 Ali really has a gift for explaining stuff, we're lucky to have him.


Let me be the first to say that the presentation had many no-nos:

- Walls of text

- Walls of code

- Too much material

Probably that's why it "reads" good. ;)

Ali
May 23 2017
next sibling parent reply Jack Stouffer <jack jackstouffer.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 at 00:05:54 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 ...


Any videos up?
May 23 2017
next sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 05/23/2017 07:42 PM, Jack Stouffer wrote:

 On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 at 00:05:54 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 ...


 Any videos up?


Not yet but I heard the videos will be posted here:

   https://www.youtube.com/user/BoostCon

Ali
May 23 2017
parent reply Wulfklaue <wulfklaue wulfklaue.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 at 03:57:07 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 Not yet but I heard the videos will be posted here:

   https://www.youtube.com/user/BoostCon

 Ali


Page 68: "CTFE is being wastly improved by Stefan Koch.". Wastly? 
;)
May 24 2017
next sibling parent jmh530 <john.michael.hall gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 at 08:34:14 UTC, Wulfklaue wrote:

 Page 68: "CTFE is being wastly improved by Stefan Koch.". 
 Wastly? ;)


I assume they meant vastly
May 24 2017
prev sibling parent =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 05/24/2017 01:34 AM, Wulfklaue wrote:


 Page 68: "CTFE is being wastly improved by Stefan Koch.". Wastly? ;)


I was paging through quickly so nobody would notice. And of course I 
must have meant CTFE perforwance... :o)

Ali
May 24 2017
prev sibling parent reply Bastiaan Veelo <Bastiaan Veelo.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 at 02:42:47 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote:

 On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 at 00:05:54 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 ...


 Any videos up?


The video is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYEKEIpM2zo
Jun 07 2017
parent reply Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 at 07:53:25 UTC, Bastiaan Veelo wrote:

 On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 at 02:42:47 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote:

 On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 at 00:05:54 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 ...


 Any videos up?


 The video is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYEKEIpM2zo


Ali, what was the fiber question you couldn't answer?

-Steve
Jun 07 2017
parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 06/07/2017 08:58 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:


 The video is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYEKEIpM2zo


 Ali, what was the fiber question you couldn't answer?

 -Steve


I wouldn't remember the question even when watching it myself, except 
for one word that I luckily repeated: "symmetric". So, the question was 
whether D's fibers were symmetric, a concept totally alien to me... :) 
I've now learned that yes, D's fibers are symmetrical:

 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41891989/what-is-the-difference-between-asymmetric-and-symmetric-coroutines

Ali
Jun 07 2017
parent =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 06/07/2017 09:56 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 On 06/07/2017 08:58 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:


 The video is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYEKEIpM2zo


 Ali, what was the fiber question you couldn't answer?

 -Steve


 I wouldn't remember the question even when watching it myself, except
 for one word that I luckily repeated: "symmetric". So, the question was
 whether D's fibers were symmetric, a concept totally alien to me... :)
 I've now learned that yes, D's fibers are symmetrical:


 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41891989/what-is-the-difference-between-asymmetric-and-symmetric-coroutines


 Ali


Reading it again, now I think D's fibers are asymmetric. Any experts in 
the house?

Ali
Jun 07 2017
prev sibling parent reply Corey Lubin <i-fear-the-spam coreylub.in> writes:
On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 at 00:05:54 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 On 05/23/2017 04:31 PM, Joakim wrote:

 http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no_pause.pdf




"Functions defined as  safe and modules compiled with -safe 
cannot corrupt memory." (slide 90)

Is there really a `-safe` command-line option?


 Error: unrecognized switch '-safe'


Maybe it's an old one that got pruned along the way..
May 28 2017
parent Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Monday, May 29, 2017 01:17:46 Corey Lubin via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 at 00:05:54 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 On 05/23/2017 04:31 PM, Joakim wrote:

 http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no
 _pause.pdf




 "Functions defined as  safe and modules compiled with -safe
 cannot corrupt memory." (slide 90)

 Is there really a `-safe` command-line option?


 Error: unrecognized switch '-safe'


 Maybe it's an old one that got pruned along the way..


I think that TDPL might talk about it, but if it ever was a thing, it's not
now and hasn't been for years. Largely, the safety stuff is all controlled
by the attributes in the code ( safe,  system, and  trusted), and compiler
switches don't affect that. The primary exception to that is the
-boundscheck flag, which lets you turn off bounds checking in  safe code
even though doing so is not  safe. Certainly, it's not the case that the
compiler doesn't care about memory safety until you use a compiler flag.

Under normal circumstances, anything marked with  safe can only call
functions that are  safe or  trusted and cannot do any operations which are
considered  system, whereas  system and  trusted functions can do whatever
they want with regards to  system operations, and the  safety of templated
functions is infered based on whether their bodies do anything that's
 system or not. Compiler flags don't enter into any of that.

- Jonathan M Davis
May 28 2017
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Manu via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 24 May 2017 at 09:31, Joakim via Digitalmars-d <
digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:


 Enjoying going through these:

 http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantag
 e_with_D.no_pause.pdf

 Ali really has a gift for explaining stuff, we're lucky to have him.


Hehe, I'm honoured to be quoted... verbatim :)
May 24 2017
parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 05/24/2017 08:19 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 On 24 May 2017 at 09:31, Joakim via Digitalmars-d



 Hehe, I'm honoured to be quoted... verbatim :)


Sorry for trimming the last part of your quote. ;)

Ali
May 24 2017
parent Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 13:18:37 Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 On 05/24/2017 08:19 AM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 On 24 May 2017 at 09:31, Joakim via Digitalmars-d

 Hehe, I'm honoured to be quoted... verbatim :)


 Sorry for trimming the last part of your quote. ;)


Well, you have to cut it off at some point, or you're just repeating
everything that he's ever said since the start of the quote. :)

- Jonathan M Davis
May 24 2017
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Corey Lubin <i-fear-the-spam coreylub.in> writes:
On Tuesday, 23 May 2017 at 23:31:48 UTC, Joakim wrote:

 Enjoying going through these:

 http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no_pause.pdf


I was particularly amused by the very last slide... Clever. :))

If anyone happens to notice when the video goes up, a quick 
heads-up posted to this thread would be appreciated.
May 28 2017
parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 05/28/2017 05:41 PM, Corey Lubin wrote:

 On Tuesday, 23 May 2017 at 23:31:48 UTC, Joakim wrote:

 Enjoying going through these:

 




http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no_pause.pdf


 I was particularly amused by the very last slide... Clever. :))


It still amuses me but credit goes to this forum. :) (Too lazy to dig it 
up who posted it first.) For convenience, here they are:

   :C
   :C++
   :D

Some people think the middle programmer has band-aids for wounds 
inflicted during coding, some others think the programmer is simply 
throwing up. :)

Ali



 May 28 2017



  parent reply mate <aiueo aiueo.aiueo>  writes:


On Monday, 29 May 2017 at 06:18:14 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 On 05/28/2017 05:41 PM, Corey Lubin wrote:

 On Tuesday, 23 May 2017 at 23:31:48 UTC, Joakim wrote:

 Enjoying going through these:

 




 http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no_pause.pdf


 I was particularly amused by the very last slide... Clever.


 :))

 It still amuses me but credit goes to this forum. :) (Too lazy 
 to dig it up who posted it first.) For convenience, here they 
 are:

   :C
   :C++
   :D

 Some people think the middle programmer has band-aids for 
 wounds inflicted during coding, some others think the 
 programmer is simply throwing up. :)

 Ali


What was the reaction of the C++ crowd seeing this?

Thank you very much for the great material.



 May 28 2017



  parent  =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com>  writes:


On 05/28/2017 11:35 PM, mate wrote:


   :C
   :C++
   :D





 What was the reaction of the C++ crowd seeing this?


I was out of time and was being shoved off stage but I managed to go 
quickly to the last slide. I remember hearing laughs from the audience. :)

It's easy to make jokes like that among friends. I already knew about 
half a dozen of the attendees personally; I made close friends with 
about another dozen or so during the conference; I've talked to, 
mingled, etc. with perhaps 3-4 dozen others... So, it's easy presenting 
to friends. :)

Ali



 May 29 2017



prev sibling next sibling parent  Sameer Pradhan <pradhan cemantix.org>  writes:


On Tuesday, 23 May 2017 at 23:31:48 UTC, Joakim wrote:

 Enjoying going through these:

 http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no_pause.pdf

 Ali really has a gift for explaining stuff, we're lucky to have 
 him.


I must say that I really enjoyed the slides as well! Hopefully 
will get to watching the video at some point.

--
Sameer



 Jun 16 2017



prev sibling next sibling parent  Mark <smarksc gmail.com>  writes:


On Tuesday, 23 May 2017 at 23:31:48 UTC, Joakim wrote:

 Enjoying going through these:

 http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no_pause.pdf

 Ali really has a gift for explaining stuff, we're lucky to have 
 him.


Yes, the slides are great. And I think "compilable Python" is a 
very good way of advertising D.



 Jun 17 2017



prev sibling  parent  Ecstatic Coder <ecstatic.coder gmail.com>  writes:


On Tuesday, 23 May 2017 at 23:31:48 UTC, Joakim wrote:

 Enjoying going through these:

 http://ddili.org/AliCehreli_CppNow_2017_Competitive_Advantage_with_D.no_pause.pdf

 Ali really has a gift for explaining stuff, we're lucky to have 
 him.


Best introduction to D for C++ programmers so far.

Lots of interesting infos, even for already "converted" C++ 
programmers like me.



 Jun 18 2017