digitalmars.D - 441 gmane.comp.lang.d.dmd.beta is unidirectional
- Vladimir Panteleev (7/7) May 10 2011 It seems it's not possible to post to the dmd.beta/dmd.devel/etc. lists ...
- Nick Sabalausky (3/7) May 10 2011 AFAIK, the dmd beta group is just an email mailing list, not a newsgroup...
- Vladimir Panteleev (6/14) May 10 2011 It's accessible via Gmane's NNTP service.
- Brad Roberts (6/14) May 10 2011 Sorry, but all the gmane d groups come through my mail gateway of the
- Vladimir Panteleev (10/13) May 10 2011 Why?
- Brad Roberts (9/28) May 10 2011 I run a _mail_ gateway, not a news gateway. So, no, posting via nntp
- Vladimir Panteleev (9/15) May 10 2011 Posting worked at one point. I hope you've disabled it out of practical ...
- Jonathan M Davis (10/26) May 10 2011 Do whatever works best for you, but I've found that using the mailing li...
- Jacob Carlborg (6/32) May 11 2011 I prefer to use the newsgroup versions and I've setup Thunderbird to
- Daniel Gibson (5/44) May 11 2011 I prefer the NG versions because they're faster, i.e. it usually takes
- Brad Roberts (10/25) May 10 2011 I've occasionally manually approved a few posts that have come through,
- Vladimir Panteleev (14/19) May 10 2011 Hmm, thanks for the clarification. The message I posted that got through...
- Robert Clipsham (13/14) May 11 2011 I like having threaded messages actually be threaded so I know what's
- KennyTM~ (4/12) May 10 2011 *This* very newsgroup doesn't require registration and yet almost
- Jonathan M Davis (4/19) May 11 2011 Really? I haven't a clue how you could do that. I thought that all of th...
- KennyTM~ (3/22) May 11 2011 I mean the digitalmars.D newsgroup in the news.digitalmars.com NNTP
It seems it's not possible to post to the dmd.beta/dmd.devel/etc. lists via Gmane NNTP. How come? This used to work before, IIRC. I wanted to report a regression in the latest DMD2 beta ( http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5976 ). -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vladimir thecybershadow.net
May 10 2011
"Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> wrote in message news:op.vvaemvw5tuzx1w cybershadow.mshome.net...It seems it's not possible to post to the dmd.beta/dmd.devel/etc. lists via Gmane NNTP. How come? This used to work before, IIRC. I wanted to report a regression in the latest DMD2 beta ( http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5976 ).AFAIK, the dmd beta group is just an email mailing list, not a newsgroup.
May 10 2011
On Wed, 11 May 2011 02:28:46 +0300, Nick Sabalausky <a a.a> wrote:"Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> wrote in message news:op.vvaemvw5tuzx1w cybershadow.mshome.net...It's accessible via Gmane's NNTP service. Posting used to work, too. Now it doesn't. -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vladimir thecybershadow.netIt seems it's not possible to post to the dmd.beta/dmd.devel/etc. lists via Gmane NNTP. How come? This used to work before, IIRC. I wanted to report a regression in the latest DMD2 beta ( http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5976 ).AFAIK, the dmd beta group is just an email mailing list, not a newsgroup.
May 10 2011
On Wed, 11 May 2011, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:It seems it's not possible to post to the dmd.beta/dmd.devel/etc. lists via Gmane NNTP. How come? This used to work before, IIRC. I wanted to report a regression in the latest DMD2 beta ( http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5976 ). -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vladimir thecybershadow.netSorry, but all the gmane d groups come through my mail gateway of the digitalmars news server. I don't allow posts from non-subscribers. If you want to post, you'll have to subscribe directly. Later, Brad
May 10 2011
On Wed, 11 May 2011 03:25:02 +0300, Brad Roberts <braddr slice-2.puremagic.com> wrote:Sorry, but all the gmane d groups come through my mail gateway of the digitalmars news server. I don't allow posts from non-subscribers.Why? Attempting to post to a Gmane newsgroup for the first time requires e-mail validation. Gmane sends an e-mail to confirm your post.If you want to post, you'll have to subscribe directly.I don't see the point, but how do I do that (assuming it'll allow me to reply via NNTP)? -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vladimir thecybershadow.net
May 10 2011
On Wed, 11 May 2011, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:On Wed, 11 May 2011 03:25:02 +0300, Brad Roberts <braddr slice-2.puremagic.com> wrote:I run a _mail_ gateway, not a news gateway. So, no, posting via nntp isn't going to work. As to why I require registration, it's spam prevention. I'm not willing to open up posts to non-registered users as it's a very strong line of defense. I'm also not eager to trust gmane as an open relay point. You can visit http://lists.puremagic.com/ to see the various lists. Later, BradSorry, but all the gmane d groups come through my mail gateway of the digitalmars news server. I don't allow posts from non-subscribers.Why? Attempting to post to a Gmane newsgroup for the first time requires e-mail validation. Gmane sends an e-mail to confirm your post.If you want to post, you'll have to subscribe directly.I don't see the point, but how do I do that (assuming it'll allow me to reply via NNTP)? -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vladimir thecybershadow.net
May 10 2011
On Wed, 11 May 2011 04:39:44 +0300, Brad Roberts <braddr slice-2.puremagic.com> wrote:I run a _mail_ gateway, not a news gateway. So, no, posting via nntp isn't going to work. As to why I require registration, it's spam prevention. I'm not willing to open up posts to non-registered users as it's a very strong line of defense. I'm also not eager to trust gmane as an open relay point.Posting worked at one point. I hope you've disabled it out of practical considerations.You can visit http://lists.puremagic.com/ to see the various lists.Bugger that... setting up an e-mail account/client configuration just to be able to report an occasional DMD beta bug is not worth it. -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vladimir thecybershadow.net
May 10 2011
On 2011-05-10 19:01, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:On Wed, 11 May 2011 04:39:44 +0300, Brad Roberts <braddr slice-2.puremagic.com> wrote:Do whatever works best for you, but I've found that using the mailing list verisons of all of the various D lists works better than using a newsgroup reader, because then I can have all of the newsgroup posts synced via imap. When using a newsgroup client, it was much harder to know which posts I had read and replied to and whatnot when switching machines. I don't have those problems when using an e-mail address with an e-mail client. I am a bit surprised that dmd-beta functions differently from the other groups though. I would have thought that it would be the same. - Jonathan M DavisI run a _mail_ gateway, not a news gateway. So, no, posting via nntp isn't going to work. As to why I require registration, it's spam prevention. I'm not willing to open up posts to non-registered users as it's a very strong line of defense. I'm also not eager to trust gmane as an open relay point.Posting worked at one point. I hope you've disabled it out of practical considerations.You can visit http://lists.puremagic.com/ to see the various lists.Bugger that... setting up an e-mail account/client configuration just to be able to report an occasional DMD beta bug is not worth it.
May 10 2011
On 2011-05-11 04:12, Jonathan M Davis wrote:On 2011-05-10 19:01, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:I prefer to use the newsgroup versions and I've setup Thunderbird to store its newsgroups folders/settings in my dropbox folder via symlinks. Maybe not the best solution but it works. -- /Jacob CarlborgOn Wed, 11 May 2011 04:39:44 +0300, Brad Roberts <braddr slice-2.puremagic.com> wrote:Do whatever works best for you, but I've found that using the mailing list verisons of all of the various D lists works better than using a newsgroup reader, because then I can have all of the newsgroup posts synced via imap. When using a newsgroup client, it was much harder to know which posts I had read and replied to and whatnot when switching machines. I don't have those problems when using an e-mail address with an e-mail client. I am a bit surprised that dmd-beta functions differently from the other groups though. I would have thought that it would be the same. - Jonathan M DavisI run a _mail_ gateway, not a news gateway. So, no, posting via nntp isn't going to work. As to why I require registration, it's spam prevention. I'm not willing to open up posts to non-registered users as it's a very strong line of defense. I'm also not eager to trust gmane as an open relay point.Posting worked at one point. I hope you've disabled it out of practical considerations.You can visit http://lists.puremagic.com/ to see the various lists.Bugger that... setting up an e-mail account/client configuration just to be able to report an occasional DMD beta bug is not worth it.
May 11 2011
Am 11.05.2011 09:31, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:On 2011-05-11 04:12, Jonathan M Davis wrote:I prefer the NG versions because they're faster, i.e. it usually takes some minutes until a reply is sent by the ML while it's almost instantly available via NG. Obviously this doesn't help if the NG is just a frontend to a ML ;)On 2011-05-10 19:01, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:I prefer to use the newsgroup versions and I've setup Thunderbird to store its newsgroups folders/settings in my dropbox folder via symlinks. Maybe not the best solution but it works.On Wed, 11 May 2011 04:39:44 +0300, Brad Roberts <braddr slice-2.puremagic.com> wrote:Do whatever works best for you, but I've found that using the mailing list verisons of all of the various D lists works better than using a newsgroup reader, because then I can have all of the newsgroup posts synced via imap. When using a newsgroup client, it was much harder to know which posts I had read and replied to and whatnot when switching machines. I don't have those problems when using an e-mail address with an e-mail client. I am a bit surprised that dmd-beta functions differently from the other groups though. I would have thought that it would be the same. - Jonathan M DavisI run a _mail_ gateway, not a news gateway. So, no, posting via nntp isn't going to work. As to why I require registration, it's spam prevention. I'm not willing to open up posts to non-registered users as it's a very strong line of defense. I'm also not eager to trust gmane as an open relay point.Posting worked at one point. I hope you've disabled it out of practical considerations.You can visit http://lists.puremagic.com/ to see the various lists.Bugger that... setting up an e-mail account/client configuration just to be able to report an occasional DMD beta bug is not worth it.
May 11 2011
On Wed, 11 May 2011, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:On Wed, 11 May 2011 04:39:44 +0300, Brad Roberts <braddr slice-2.puremagic.com> wrote:I've occasionally manually approved a few posts that have come through, but posting from non-subscribers has, as far as I recall, never worked. It would have been a misconfiguration. The practical consideration is the one I described above, spam prevention. It's necessary. There are many attempted posts per day to each of the lists I carry.I run a _mail_ gateway, not a news gateway. So, no, posting via nntp isn't going to work. As to why I require registration, it's spam prevention. I'm not willing to open up posts to non-registered users as it's a very strong line of defense. I'm also not eager to trust gmane as an open relay point.Posting worked at one point. I hope you've disabled it out of practical considerations.Bugs are best reported to bugzilla. The lists are for discussion. Sorry you feel that subscribing is too high a bar. Later, BradYou can visit http://lists.puremagic.com/ to see the various lists.Bugger that... setting up an e-mail account/client configuration just to be able to report an occasional DMD beta bug is not worth it.
May 10 2011
On Wed, 11 May 2011 05:17:41 +0300, Brad Roberts <braddr slice-2.puremagic.com> wrote:It would have been a misconfiguration.Hmm, thanks for the clarification. The message I posted that got through was on December 15, in the d.runtime group.the one I described above, spam prevention. It's necessary. There are many attempted posts per day to each of the lists I carry.That's understandable, but may I ask if there are any problematic posts coming from Gmane?Sorry you feel that subscribing is too high a bar.Subscribing is not enough. I'd need to either switch to reading those lists in an e-mail client, or create an e-mail setup just for posting. The alternative is to break threads or mess with e-mail headers manually, so that my replies are threaded. I hope this explains a bit where the bar really is for me. -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vladimir thecybershadow.net
May 10 2011
On 11/05/2011 03:17, Brad Roberts wrote:Sorry you feel that subscribing is too high a bar.I like having threaded messages actually be threaded so I know what's going on - which is why I like using a newsgroup, even for the mailing lists. What it does mean though is that I have to have my email inbox flooded with spam I don't want to read, just in the off chance I want to reply... And I can't reply in the place I'm reading it, I have to search through my email, find the post I want to reply to, then reply. Would it not be possible to allow gmane to be bidirectional but still require registration? That way I can post via gmane and you don't have to worry about spam. -- Robert http://octarineparrot.com/
May 11 2011
On May 11, 11 09:39, Brad Roberts wrote:I run a_mail_ gateway, not a news gateway. So, no, posting via nntp isn't going to work. As to why I require registration, it's spam prevention. I'm not willing to open up posts to non-registered users as it's a very strong line of defense. I'm also not eager to trust gmane as an open relay point. You can visithttp://lists.puremagic.com/ to see the various lists. Later, Brad*This* very newsgroup doesn't require registration and yet almost doesn't have spam. I don't see why posting via gmane is disallowed if spam prevention is the only reason.
May 10 2011
On 2011-05-10 23:26, KennyTM~ wrote:On May 11, 11 09:39, Brad Roberts wrote:Really? I haven't a clue how you could do that. I thought that all of the lists required registration. - Jonathan M DavisI run a_mail_ gateway, not a news gateway. So, no, posting via nntp isn't going to work. As to why I require registration, it's spam prevention. I'm not willing to open up posts to non-registered users as it's a very strong line of defense. I'm also not eager to trust gmane as an open relay point. You can visithttp://lists.puremagic.com/ to see the various lists. Later, Brad*This* very newsgroup doesn't require registration and yet almost doesn't have spam. I don't see why posting via gmane is disallowed if spam prevention is the only reason.
May 11 2011
On May 11, 11 15:14, Jonathan M Davis wrote:On 2011-05-10 23:26, KennyTM~ wrote:I mean the digitalmars.D newsgroup in the news.digitalmars.com NNTP server, not the mailing lists.On May 11, 11 09:39, Brad Roberts wrote:Really? I haven't a clue how you could do that. I thought that all of the lists required registration. - Jonathan M DavisI run a_mail_ gateway, not a news gateway. So, no, posting via nntp isn't going to work. As to why I require registration, it's spam prevention. I'm not willing to open up posts to non-registered users as it's a very strong line of defense. I'm also not eager to trust gmane as an open relay point. You can visithttp://lists.puremagic.com/ to see the various lists. Later, Brad*This* very newsgroup doesn't require registration and yet almost doesn't have spam. I don't see why posting via gmane is disallowed if spam prevention is the only reason.
May 11 2011