• Jan Knepper (15/15) Aug 07 2006 Walter...
• Walter Bright (2/5) Aug 11 2006 Not much has been happening in that direction.
• Wolfgang Draxinger (7/13) Aug 12 2006 Would it help if someone (me?) implemented a preliminary 64 bit
• Jan Knepper (15/21) Aug 12 2006 There are more and more AMD Athlon's, Opteron's and Turions being sold.
• Justin C Calvarese (6/24) Aug 12 2006 I know that the newsguy software doesn't run on the 64-bit server, but
• Jan Knepper (19/43) Aug 12 2006 I have searched and have found:
• Kirk McDonald (11/38) Aug 12 2006 Maybe I'm just being an unrepentant Python fanboy here, but it would be
• pragma (5/43) Aug 12 2006 Well, while we're talking about alternative solutions here: PHP Pear has...
• Walter Bright (2/5) Aug 12 2006 Is it possible to just move the news back to the 32 bit server?
• Jan Knepper (9/15) Aug 14 2006 I am considering moving the CGI's to a 32 bits server or 32 bits jail.
• Walter Bright (3/17) Aug 14 2006 I've updated the links to point to pnews, which would be ok if it could

Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:

Walter...

Any word on a 64 bits version of the C++/D compilers?

Have been doing 64 bits stuff on FreeBSD for about a year now and 
wxWidgets www.wxwidgets.org does build on it for instance.

Just moved to Windows XP Professional x68-64 Edition which seems to be 
pretty stable so far.

Latest Visual Studio 8/2005 seems to have a 64 bits compiler as well. I 
am planning on testing some stuff with that as well.

Thanks!
Jan

-- 
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper

But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org

Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

Jan Knepper wrote:
 Walter...
 
 Any word on a 64 bits version of the C++/D compilers?

Not much has been happening in that direction.

Wolfgang Draxinger <wdraxinger darkstargames.de> writes:

Walter Bright wrote:

 Jan Knepper wrote:
 Walter...
 
 Any word on a 64 bits version of the C++/D compilers?

 
 Not much has been happening in that direction.

Would it help if someone (me?) implemented a preliminary 64 bit
ABI and hacked gdc with that?

Wolfgang Draxinger
-- 
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GPG key FP: 2FC8 319E C7D7 1ADC 0408 65C6 05F5 A645 1FD3 BD3E

Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:

Walter Bright wrote:
 Jan Knepper wrote:
 Walter...

 Any word on a 64 bits version of the C++/D compilers?

 
 Not much has been happening in that direction.

There are more and more AMD Athlon's, Opteron's and Turions being sold. 
M$ VS 8 (2005) does include a 64 bits compiler. Would be nice to compile 
the same code with DM C++ ;-)

Not pushing, but I do expect the 64 bits computer world to be here 
faster than we expect.

Unfortunately the move to 64 bits is what killed the WWW newsgroup 
stuff. One of the few 32 bits things that up to now does not run on 64 
bits architecture.

Jan



-- 
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper

But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org

Justin C Calvarese <technocrat7 gmail.com> writes:

Jan Knepper wrote:
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Jan Knepper wrote:
 Walter...

 Any word on a 64 bits version of the C++/D compilers?

 Not much has been happening in that direction.

 
 There are more and more AMD Athlon's, Opteron's and Turions being sold. 
 M$ VS 8 (2005) does include a 64 bits compiler. Would be nice to compile 
 the same code with DM C++ ;-)
 
 Not pushing, but I do expect the 64 bits computer world to be here 
 faster than we expect.
 
 Unfortunately the move to 64 bits is what killed the WWW newsgroup 
 stuff. One of the few 32 bits things that up to now does not run on 64 
 bits architecture.

I know that the newsguy software doesn't run on the 64-bit server, but 
do you mean that you can't find any web interface software that runs on 
a 64-bit architecture?

-- 
jcc7

Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:

Justin C Calvarese wrote:
 Jan Knepper wrote:
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Jan Knepper wrote:
 Walter...

 Any word on a 64 bits version of the C++/D compilers?

 Not much has been happening in that direction.

 There are more and more AMD Athlon's, Opteron's and Turions being 
 sold. M$ VS 8 (2005) does include a 64 bits compiler. Would be nice to 
 compile the same code with DM C++ ;-)

 Not pushing, but I do expect the 64 bits computer world to be here 
 faster than we expect.

 Unfortunately the move to 64 bits is what killed the WWW newsgroup 
 stuff. One of the few 32 bits things that up to now does not run on 64 
 bits architecture.

 
 I know that the newsguy software doesn't run on the 64-bit server, but 
 do you mean that you can't find any web interface software that runs on 
 a 64-bit architecture?
 

I have searched and have found:

http://www.newsreaders.com/web/software.html

pnews http://www.digitalmars.com/pnews/ which does not load the 
digitalmars.D newsgroup as it seems to have more messages than pnews 
understands and requires a while truck load of additional stuff to be 
able to display messages threaded.

w3news http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/kp229/w3news/ which crashes

Apache::NNTPGateway 
http://search.cpan.org/doc/BOUBAKER/Apache-NNTPGateway-0.8/NNTPGateway.pm 
which kinda works, but takes forever to list all articles in a newsgroups

I have not had the time to try anything else.
Open Source is nice, but there is definitely a LOT of junk out there.

Jan



-- 
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper

But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org

Kirk McDonald <kirklin.mcdonald gmail.com> writes:

Jan Knepper wrote:
 Justin C Calvarese wrote:
 I know that the newsguy software doesn't run on the 64-bit server, but 
 do you mean that you can't find any web interface software that runs 
 on a 64-bit architecture?

 
 I have searched and have found:
 
 http://www.newsreaders.com/web/software.html
 
 pnews http://www.digitalmars.com/pnews/ which does not load the 
 digitalmars.D newsgroup as it seems to have more messages than pnews 
 understands and requires a while truck load of additional stuff to be 
 able to display messages threaded.
 
 w3news http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/kp229/w3news/ which crashes
 
 Apache::NNTPGateway 
 http://search.cpan.org/doc/BOUBAKER/Apache-NNTPGateway-0.8/NNTPGateway.pm 
 which kinda works, but takes forever to list all articles in a newsgroups
 
 I have not had the time to try anything else.
 Open Source is nice, but there is definitely a LOT of junk out there.
 
 Jan
 
 

Maybe I'm just being an unrepentant Python fanboy here, but it would be 
fairly trivial to hack something together with Python. The standard 
library even has an NNTP client:

http://docs.python.org/lib/module-nntplib.html

In fact, I'm willing to bet that someone, somewhere has written a 
web-based newsreader with Python, though I can't say I've ever looked.

-- 
Kirk McDonald
Pyd: Wrapping Python with D
http://dsource.org/projects/pyd/wiki

pragma <ericanderton yahoo.com> writes:

Kirk McDonald wrote:
 Jan Knepper wrote:
 Justin C Calvarese wrote:
 I know that the newsguy software doesn't run on the 64-bit server, 
 but do you mean that you can't find any web interface software that 
 runs on a 64-bit architecture?

 I have searched and have found:

 http://www.newsreaders.com/web/software.html

 pnews http://www.digitalmars.com/pnews/ which does not load the 
 digitalmars.D newsgroup as it seems to have more messages than pnews 
 understands and requires a while truck load of additional stuff to be 
 able to display messages threaded.

 w3news http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/kp229/w3news/ which crashes

 Apache::NNTPGateway 
 http://search.cpan.org/doc/BOUBAKER/Apache-NNTPGateway-0.8/NNTPGateway.pm 
 which kinda works, but takes forever to list all articles in a newsgroups

 I have not had the time to try anything else.
 Open Source is nice, but there is definitely a LOT of junk out there.

 Jan

 
 Maybe I'm just being an unrepentant Python fanboy here, but it would be 
 fairly trivial to hack something together with Python. The standard 
 library even has an NNTP client:
 
 http://docs.python.org/lib/module-nntplib.html
 
 In fact, I'm willing to bet that someone, somewhere has written a 
 web-based newsreader with Python, though I can't say I've ever looked.
 

Well, while we're talking about alternative solutions here: PHP Pear has 
some nuts and bolts that talk NNTP as well.  I'm sure that between the 
two there's more than enough room to cobble together an alternative 
solution for web-based newsreader.

Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

Jan Knepper wrote:
 Unfortunately the move to 64 bits is what killed the WWW newsgroup 
 stuff. One of the few 32 bits things that up to now does not run on 64 
 bits architecture.

Is it possible to just move the news back to the 32 bit server?

Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:

I am considering moving the CGI's to a 32 bits server or 32 bits jail.
They just interface via NNTP with the actual news server which I rather 
keep on the new server for performance reasons.



Walter Bright wrote:
 Jan Knepper wrote:
 Unfortunately the move to 64 bits is what killed the WWW newsgroup 
 stuff. One of the few 32 bits things that up to now does not run on 64 
 bits architecture.

 
 Is it possible to just move the news back to the 32 bit server?

-- 
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper

But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org

Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

I've updated the links to point to pnews, which would be ok if it could 
be gotten to work with the digitalmars.D group.

Jan Knepper wrote:
 I am considering moving the CGI's to a 32 bits server or 32 bits jail.
 They just interface via NNTP with the actual news server which I rather 
 keep on the new server for performance reasons.
 
 
 
 Walter Bright wrote:
 Jan Knepper wrote:
 Unfortunately the move to 64 bits is what killed the WWW newsgroup 
 stuff. One of the few 32 bits things that up to now does not run on 
 64 bits architecture.

 Is it possible to just move the news back to the 32 bit server?