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reply "Ook" <nousenetspam nospamzootal.com> writes:
I was directed here form comp.lang.c++ while asking about the future of c++.
What is the future of D? Where is it going? Is this likely to be The Next
Big thing? I had not heart much about D until recently, so don't really know
how big it is or is likely to be.
May 03 2006
next sibling parent nick <nick.atamas gmail.com> writes:
Ook wrote:

 I was directed here form comp.lang.c++ while asking about the future of c++.
 What is the future of D? Where is it going? Is this likely to be The Next
 Big thing? I had not heart much about D until recently, so don't really know
 how big it is or is likely to be.
 
 
 


As big as Walter and the community manages to make it... only time will
tell.
May 03 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Dave <Dave_member pathlink.com> writes:
Ook wrote:

 I was directed here form comp.lang.c++ while asking about the future of c++.
 What is the future of D? Where is it going? Is this likely to be The Next
 Big thing? I had not heart much about D until recently, so don't really know
 how big it is or is likely to be.
 


I've been following things since late 2004 and it seems to me to have 
been gaining momentum ever since, but especially over the last couple of 
months. There seems to have been a lot of activity and "new faces" (new 
posters to this NG) recently.

For what they're worth:

http://www.tiobe.com/
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/debian/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all

http://dsource.org/ is in the early stages of a cosmetic redesign from 
what I gather, but that is sort-of the place to find libraries and such.

Give D a try!
May 03 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:
Ook wrote:

 I was directed here form comp.lang.c++ while asking about the future of c++.
 What is the future of D? Where is it going? Is this likely to be The Next
 Big thing? I had not heart much about D until recently, so don't really know
 how big it is or is likely to be.
 
 
 


Its an exciting time around here recently. As posted before, we recently 

becoming more feature complete and stable with each new release, which 
have been coming quite regularly, about once or twice a month.

One link I think that hasn't been posted is, http://dstress.kuehne.cn. 
Which is a stress test suite for the D compiler(s). If you look at the 
trends, the compiler has been getting more and more conformant/stable.

-- 
Kyle Furlong // Physics Undergrad, UCSB

"D is going wherever the D community wants it to go." - Walter Bright
May 03 2006
prev sibling parent reply Cris <central_p hotmail.com> writes:
if just D becomes official part of GCC asap... and gets official GDB support as 
well as better documentation a real multiplatform GUI lib and of course a good 
IDE... it will make it so much easier for noobs... All this will contribute to
a 
great future!
May 07 2006
next sibling parent reply =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_F_Bj=F6rklund?= <afb algonet.se> writes:
Cris wrote:


 if just D becomes official part of GCC asap...


There are two problems with this, at the moment.

1) In order to be GNU, all copyright should be FSF
    http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/

2) GDC doesn't work with the release series of GCC
    http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.1/


 and gets official GDB support...


Same goes for being an offical part of GDB, I guess.

But it is possible now to use and package a version
of GDC that uses a custom GCC/GDB of older releases,
(including using the older "system" GCC compilers)
so I don't think it is a major obstacle to using D ?


 as well as better documentation a real multiplatform
 GUI lib and of course a good IDE... 


No argument about the need for Doc/GUI/IDE, though...
(including better packaging of the D toolchain itself)

However, there *are* some community efforts going on.

--anders
May 07 2006
parent reply Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:
Anders F Björklund wrote:

 Cris wrote:
 

 if just D becomes official part of GCC asap...


 
 There are two problems with this, at the moment.
 
 1) In order to be GNU, all copyright should be FSF
    http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/
 
 2) GDC doesn't work with the release series of GCC
    http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.1/
 

 and gets official GDB support...


 
 Same goes for being an offical part of GDB, I guess.
 
 But it is possible now to use and package a version
 of GDC that uses a custom GCC/GDB of older releases,
 (including using the older "system" GCC compilers)
 so I don't think it is a major obstacle to using D ?


It might be nice to eventually have a packaged version of GDC available 
in the Debian downloader and other such places.  I have no idea how to 
go about this, but I imagine it can't be terribly difficult?


Sean
May 07 2006
parent =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_F_Bj=F6rklund?= <afb algonet.se> writes:
Sean Kelly wrote:


 It might be nice to eventually have a packaged version of GDC available 
 in the Debian downloader and other such places.  I have no idea how to 
 go about this, but I imagine it can't be terribly difficult?


As far as I know, for Debian and Gentoo Linux it's mostly about getting 
someone to volunteer as a GDC maintainer - not so much about packaging.

But I'm using Fedora Core myself. (RPMS)

--anders
May 07 2006
prev sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Cris wrote:

 if just D becomes official part of GCC asap... and gets official GDB 
 support as well as better documentation a real multiplatform GUI lib and 
 of course a good IDE... it will make it so much easier for noobs... All 
 this will contribute to a great future!


The Dwarf3 spec does officially include D support.
May 07 2006