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reply Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
I know that there's been some discussion in the past about image format 
libraries.  A quick google reveals this

http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/23447.html

which points me to DevIL (fka OpenIL), its D bindings, and Andrew 
Fedoniouk's effort, but they've since disappeared.

So, is there an image library with a decent D interface out there at the 
moment?

Also, I've noticed that one or two people have had a go at writing a 
raytracing engine in D

http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/4286.html

but again, the code's disappeared AFAICS.  I've started playing with the 
idea of writing one myself.  My effort goes by the name D3 (basically a 
play on D and 3D) at the moment.  I'm writing it as a library, but 
haven't decided if it'll eventually grow into a code interpreter like 
Rayshade or POV-Ray.

But any graphics rendering engine could do with a hook-up to an image 
format library.  (Probably as one of a few options for how the image 
will be output, with other possibilities including Windows GDI bitmaps 
and raw data in memory.)  But what library, if any, would be a good choice?

Stewart.

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May 02 2006
next sibling parent Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:
Stewart Gordon wrote:


 I know that there's been some discussion in the past about image format
 libraries.  A quick google reveals this
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/23447.html
 
 which points me to DevIL (fka OpenIL), its D bindings, and Andrew
 Fedoniouk's effort, but they've since disappeared.
 
 So, is there an image library with a decent D interface out there at the
 moment?
 
 Also, I've noticed that one or two people have had a go at writing a
 raytracing engine in D
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/4286.html
 
 but again, the code's disappeared AFAICS.  I've started playing with the
 idea of writing one myself.  My effort goes by the name D3 (basically a
 play on D and 3D) at the moment.  I'm writing it as a library, but
 haven't decided if it'll eventually grow into a code interpreter like
 Rayshade or POV-Ray.
 
 But any graphics rendering engine could do with a hook-up to an image
 format library.  (Probably as one of a few options for how the image
 will be output, with other possibilities including Windows GDI bitmaps
 and raw data in memory.)  But what library, if any, would be a good
 choice?
 
 Stewart.
 


Derelict should have D bindings.

-- 
Lars Ivar Igesund
blog at http://larsivi.net
DSource & #D: larsivi
May 02 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Brad Anderson <brad dsource.org> writes:
Stewart Gordon wrote:

 I know that there's been some discussion in the past about image format
 libraries.  A quick google reveals this
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/23447.html
 
 which points me to DevIL (fka OpenIL), its D bindings, and Andrew
 Fedoniouk's effort, but they've since disappeared.
 
 So, is there an image library with a decent D interface out there at the
 moment?
 
 Also, I've noticed that one or two people have had a go at writing a
 raytracing engine in D
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/4286.html
 
 but again, the code's disappeared AFAICS.  I've started playing with the
 idea of writing one myself.  My effort goes by the name D3 (basically a
 play on D and 3D) at the moment.  I'm writing it as a library, but
 haven't decided if it'll eventually grow into a code interpreter like
 Rayshade or POV-Ray.
 
 But any graphics rendering engine could do with a hook-up to an image
 format library.  (Probably as one of a few options for how the image
 will be output, with other possibilities including Windows GDI bitmaps
 and raw data in memory.)  But what library, if any, would be a good choice?
 
 Stewart.
 


This may or may not be what you're looking for...

http://www.dsource.org/projects/sol

BA
May 02 2006
parent reply Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
Brad Anderson wrote:
<snip>

 This may or may not be what you're looking for...
 
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/sol


Seems a good effort.  A few initial observations (trying it on Mac OS X):

1. So it requires the vertex normals of a flat triangle to be explicitly 
given?  Seems a bit cumbersome....

2. The distribution contains .obj files that obviously aren't compiler 
object files, which is what almost every MS-DOS or Windows programmer is 
used to the extension meaning.

3. It requires OpenGL.  OTOH, I'm going for something more self-contained.

4. It seems to run only in a GUI.  No obvious way to just generate an 
image file straight from the command line.

5. Why is the window's close button disabled?

6. Documentation is rather lacking.  OK, so it's not hard to get to know 
the sol file format by looking at the examples.  But the obj files will 
take a bit more studying to make sense of.  And I had to try saving an 
image just to find out what format it saves in....

Stewart.

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May 03 2006
parent reply "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Stewart Gordon" <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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 2. The distribution contains .obj files that obviously aren't compiler 
 object files, which is what almost every MS-DOS or Windows programmer is 
 used to the extension meaning.


And which almost every 3D artist knows is the Wavefront OBJ format, one of 
the most ubiquitous mesh interchange formats out there ;)


 3. It requires OpenGL.  OTOH, I'm going for something more self-contained.


As if OpenGL isn't supported on, well, everything?
May 03 2006
parent reply Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "Stewart Gordon" <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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 2. The distribution contains .obj files that obviously aren't compiler 
 object files, which is what almost every MS-DOS or Windows programmer is 
 used to the extension meaning.


 
 And which almost every 3D artist knows is the Wavefront OBJ format, one of 
 the most ubiquitous mesh interchange formats out there ;)


Just looked it up

http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/mxr/gfx/3d/OBJ.spec

Hmm....

And I see the other WaveFront format is .mod, which is what the Fortrash 
compilers I've used use for module information files.


 3. It requires OpenGL.  OTOH, I'm going for something more self-contained.


 
 As if OpenGL isn't supported on, well, everything?


Good question.  But how many OSs come with OpenGL installed as standard?

If the purpose is to write your own renderer, then what part does OpenGL 
play anyway?  It's got me pondering over where Sol's own code ends and 
OpenGL begins.

Stewart.

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May 04 2006
next sibling parent reply James Dunne <james.jdunne gmail.com> writes:
Stewart Gordon wrote:

 Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
 

 "Stewart Gordon" <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
 news:e3a2ue$1v58$1 digitaldaemon.com...


 2. The distribution contains .obj files that obviously aren't 
 compiler object files, which is what almost every MS-DOS or Windows 
 programmer is used to the extension meaning.



 And which almost every 3D artist knows is the Wavefront OBJ format, 
 one of the most ubiquitous mesh interchange formats out there ;)


 
 
 Just looked it up
 
 http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/mxr/gfx/3d/OBJ.spec
 
 Hmm....
 
 And I see the other WaveFront format is .mod, which is what the Fortrash 
 compilers I've used use for module information files.
 


.MOD to me means an Amiga multi-track music sequence file.  Hey, even 
DOC used to mean plain-text document back in DOS.

...and what's so bad about Fortran (if I assume correctly that Fortrash 
is derived from)?


 3. It requires OpenGL.  OTOH, I'm going for something more 
 self-contained.



 As if OpenGL isn't supported on, well, everything?


 
 Good question.  But how many OSs come with OpenGL installed as standard?
 


Quite a few of them, actually.  Windows ships with OpenGL 1.1 
implementation and headers.  Linux also has native support for OpenGL, 
depending on your graphics hardware.  Solaris, of course... Probably the 
*BSD variants too, but I'm not sure.


 If the purpose is to write your own renderer, then what part does OpenGL 
 play anyway?  It's got me pondering over where Sol's own code ends and 
 OpenGL begins.
 
 Stewart.
 


OpenGL plays the part of allowing hardware-level interaction with the 
software renderer.  It is a portable gateway between the application and 
the graphics hardware drivers.  You can use it to any extent you like, 
taking full advantage of its full 3D rendering capabilities or simply 
just using it as a rasterizer and blitting images onto the screen.

I'll have to take a look at Sol to see how it uses OpenGL.

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May 04 2006
parent reply Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
James Dunne wrote:

 Stewart Gordon wrote:


<snip>

 And I see the other WaveFront format is .mod, which is what the 
 Fortrash compilers I've used use for module information files.


 
 .MOD to me means an Amiga multi-track music sequence file. 


That reminds me.  OUAT there was a sound card that included in its 
bundled Windows software a program called Modus, which IIRC played .mod 
files.


 Hey, even DOC used to mean plain-text document back in DOS.


And some programs would even use filename extensions that are already 
used by programs that ship with the OS on which they run.  For example, 
IIRC Windows Paint, Freelance Graphics and Paint Shop Pro all use .pal 
for their palette files, but they're different file formats.  And 
wxCLIPS uses .clp even in its Windows version, whereas .clp is also a 
Windows clipboard image.

Also, some filename extensions are deliberately chosen to confuse.  For 
example, see

http://esoteric.sange.fi/orphaned/bak/


 ...and what's so bad about Fortran (if I assume correctly that Fortrash 
 is derived from)?


<snip>

I guess it just doesn't have all the power of D I'm used to.

OK, so built-in vector arithmetic is one of the few good things about it....

Stewart.

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May 04 2006
parent reply James Dunne <james.jdunne gmail.com> writes:
Stewart Gordon wrote:

 James Dunne wrote:
 

 Stewart Gordon wrote:


 
 <snip>
 

 And I see the other WaveFront format is .mod, which is what the 
 Fortrash compilers I've used use for module information files.



 .MOD to me means an Amiga multi-track music sequence file. 


 
 
 That reminds me.  OUAT there was a sound card that included in its 
 bundled Windows software a program called Modus, which IIRC played .mod 
 files.
 

 Hey, even DOC used to mean plain-text document back in DOS.


 
 
 And some programs would even use filename extensions that are already 
 used by programs that ship with the OS on which they run.  For example, 
 IIRC Windows Paint, Freelance Graphics and Paint Shop Pro all use .pal 
 for their palette files, but they're different file formats.  And 
 wxCLIPS uses .clp even in its Windows version, whereas .clp is also a 
 Windows clipboard image.
 
 Also, some filename extensions are deliberately chosen to confuse.  For 
 example, see
 
 http://esoteric.sange.fi/orphaned/bak/
 

 ...and what's so bad about Fortran (if I assume correctly that 
 Fortrash is derived from)?


 
 <snip>
 
 I guess it just doesn't have all the power of D I'm used to.
 
 OK, so built-in vector arithmetic is one of the few good things about 
 it....
 
 Stewart.
 


Well, one can hardly blame Fortran for its age now... Still, it has its 
uses; and that is for people who aren't necessarily programmers by 
nature.  For instance, those in engineering and physics fields find it a 
very powerful language in which to express complicated mathematical models.

However, built-in vector arithmetic is something D would certainly 
enjoy, especially in the context of multimedia development!  Intrinsics 
anyone?

-- 
Regards,
James Dunne
May 04 2006
parent Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
James Dunne wrote:
<snip>

 Well, one can hardly blame Fortran for its age now... Still, it has its 
 uses; and that is for people who aren't necessarily programmers by 
 nature.  For instance, those in engineering and physics fields find it a 
 very powerful language in which to express complicated mathematical models.


I've seen statements to the contrary.

http://www.fortranstatement.com/cgi-bin/petition.pl

"Scientists of all domains struggle to stay current in their own fields, 
and the notion that they must also master the arcane concepts of a 700 
page reference from another science entirely is neither practical nor 
appropriate."

And I'm still curious about what was going on in the brain of F90's 
inventor when he/she/it decided to keep such things as a hard limit on 
line lengths.


 However, built-in vector arithmetic is something D would certainly 
 enjoy, especially in the context of multimedia development!  Intrinsics 
 anyone?


Walter intended including it in D, but then withdrew it.  But see

http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/16647.html

I *believe* it'll be back after 1.0 is out.

I reckon D could one day supersede Fortran....

Stewart.

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May 05 2006
prev sibling parent reply "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Stewart Gordon" <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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 Hmm....

 And I see the other WaveFront format is .mod, which is what the Fortrash 
 compilers I've used use for module information files.


I guess when you've got alphanum characters, you can't do much ;)  Of 
course, there's no real restriction on file extension length, just more of 
an unwritten agreement that they should be three (or maybe, _maybe_ four) 
letters long.  Of course, Visual Studio just leaves this rule in the dust 
with its *.vcproj and such..


 If the purpose is to write your own renderer, then what part does OpenGL 
 play anyway?


Good point.  But like James said, it might use it do just display the final 
result or something.
May 04 2006
next sibling parent Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "Stewart Gordon" <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
 news:e3csov$14a3$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 Hmm....

 And I see the other WaveFront format is .mod, which is what the Fortrash 
 compilers I've used use for module information files.


 
 I guess when you've got alphanum characters, you can't do much ;)  Of 
 course, there's no real restriction on file extension length, just more of 
 an unwritten agreement that they should be three (or maybe, _maybe_ four) 
 letters long.


<snip>

The three-character 'rule' is a legacy from MS-DOS/Win16 days.  .html 
seems to be by far the best-known extension that's longer.  This was 
back when Win3.1 was in common use, but I guess they got away with it 
considering that a lot of web servers are Unix-based.  And of course 
somebody invented .htm to cater for web developers using these older 
systems (not to mention HTML pages distributed on disks of some kind).

Do the latest versions of FP still default to .htm?  I suppose it fits 
in with M$'s outrageous efforts to turn the WWW from a standard medium 
to a proprietary one.  FTM, see

http://toastytech.com/evil/onlyie.html

Hang on ... I've just thought.  Maybe they've done one good deed: taking 
.htm as the extension for M$HTML, and letting HTML keep .html.  :-)

Another four-letter extension that comes to mind is .jpeg, yet .jpg is 
still much more common.


 Of course, Visual Studio just leaves this rule in the dust with its 
 *.vcproj and such..


So does D with its *.d.  It seems a lot of programming languages use 
one-letter extensions.  I can think of .b, .c, .f and .i OTTOMH....

And Apple Project Builder uses .pbproj.  Coincidence?

Stewart.

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May 05 2006
prev sibling parent James Dunne <james.jdunne gmail.com> writes:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:

 "Stewart Gordon" <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
 news:e3csov$14a3$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 

Hmm....

And I see the other WaveFront format is .mod, which is what the Fortrash 
compilers I've used use for module information files.


 
 
 I guess when you've got alphanum characters, you can't do much ;)  Of 
 course, there's no real restriction on file extension length, just more of 
 an unwritten agreement that they should be three (or maybe, _maybe_ four) 
 letters long.  Of course, Visual Studio just leaves this rule in the dust 
 with its *.vcproj and such..
 
 

If the purpose is to write your own renderer, then what part does OpenGL 
play anyway?


 
 
 Good point.  But like James said, it might use it do just display the final 
 result or something. 
 
 


I've checked the source and yes, OpenGL is used only for blitting the 
final raytraced image onto the screen.  GLUT is used for keyboard 
bindings (and optionally mouse functionality but it looks to be disabled 
in the code) and event handling.

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May 05 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:
Stewart Gordon wrote:

 I know that there's been some discussion in the past about image format 
 libraries.  A quick google reveals this
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/23447.html
 
 which points me to DevIL (fka OpenIL), its D bindings, and Andrew 
 Fedoniouk's effort, but they've since disappeared.
 
 So, is there an image library with a decent D interface out there at the 
 moment?
 
 Also, I've noticed that one or two people have had a go at writing a 
 raytracing engine in D
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/4286.html
 
 but again, the code's disappeared AFAICS.  I've started playing with the 
 idea of writing one myself.  My effort goes by the name D3 (basically a 
 play on D and 3D) at the moment.  I'm writing it as a library, but 
 haven't decided if it'll eventually grow into a code interpreter like 
 Rayshade or POV-Ray.
 
 But any graphics rendering engine could do with a hook-up to an image 
 format library.  (Probably as one of a few options for how the image 
 will be output, with other possibilities including Windows GDI bitmaps 
 and raw data in memory.)  But what library, if any, would be a good choice?
 
 Stewart.
 


Terra has bindings to DevIL. I think Trevor put them in the Fusion tree.

-- 
Kyle Furlong // Physics Undergrad, UCSB

"D is going wherever the D community wants it to go." - Walter Bright
May 02 2006
parent Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:
Kyle Furlong wrote:

 Stewart Gordon wrote:

 I know that there's been some discussion in the past about image 
 format libraries.  A quick google reveals this

 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/23447.html

 which points me to DevIL (fka OpenIL), its D bindings, and Andrew 
 Fedoniouk's effort, but they've since disappeared.

 So, is there an image library with a decent D interface out there at 
 the moment?

 Also, I've noticed that one or two people have had a go at writing a 
 raytracing engine in D

 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/4286.html

 but again, the code's disappeared AFAICS.  I've started playing with 
 the idea of writing one myself.  My effort goes by the name D3 
 (basically a play on D and 3D) at the moment.  I'm writing it as a 
 library, but haven't decided if it'll eventually grow into a code 
 interpreter like Rayshade or POV-Ray.

 But any graphics rendering engine could do with a hook-up to an image 
 format library.  (Probably as one of a few options for how the image 
 will be output, with other possibilities including Windows GDI bitmaps 
 and raw data in memory.)  But what library, if any, would be a good 
 choice?

 Stewart.


 
 Terra has bindings to DevIL. I think Trevor put them in the Fusion tree.
 


Actually let me take that back... Terra USED to have bindings to DevIL. 
Looks like Trevor implemented his own PNG loader.

-- 
Kyle Furlong // Physics Undergrad, UCSB

"D is going wherever the D community wants it to go." - Walter Bright
May 02 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Mike Parker <aldacron71 yahoo.com> writes:
Stewart Gordon wrote:

 I know that there's been some discussion in the past about image format 
 libraries.  A quick google reveals this
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/23447.html
 
 which points me to DevIL (fka OpenIL), its D bindings, and Andrew 
 Fedoniouk's effort, but they've since disappeared.
 
 So, is there an image library with a decent D interface out there at the 
 moment?
 
 Also, I've noticed that one or two people have had a go at writing a 
 raytracing engine in D
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/4286.html
 
 but again, the code's disappeared AFAICS.  I've started playing with the 
 idea of writing one myself.  My effort goes by the name D3 (basically a 
 play on D and 3D) at the moment.  I'm writing it as a library, but 
 haven't decided if it'll eventually grow into a code interpreter like 
 Rayshade or POV-Ray.
 
 But any graphics rendering engine could do with a hook-up to an image 
 format library.  (Probably as one of a few options for how the image 
 will be output, with other possibilities including Windows GDI bitmaps 
 and raw data in memory.)  But what library, if any, would be a good choice?
 
 Stewart.
 


Derelict has bindings to both DevIL and SDLimage.
May 02 2006
parent clayasaurus <clayasaurus gmail.com> writes:
Mike Parker wrote:

 Stewart Gordon wrote:

 I know that there's been some discussion in the past about image 
 format libraries.  A quick google reveals this

 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/23447.html

 which points me to DevIL (fka OpenIL), its D bindings, and Andrew 
 Fedoniouk's effort, but they've since disappeared.

 So, is there an image library with a decent D interface out there at 
 the moment?

 Also, I've noticed that one or two people have had a go at writing a 
 raytracing engine in D

 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/4286.html

 but again, the code's disappeared AFAICS.  I've started playing with 
 the idea of writing one myself.  My effort goes by the name D3 
 (basically a play on D and 3D) at the moment.  I'm writing it as a 
 library, but haven't decided if it'll eventually grow into a code 
 interpreter like Rayshade or POV-Ray.

 But any graphics rendering engine could do with a hook-up to an image 
 format library.  (Probably as one of a few options for how the image 
 will be output, with other possibilities including Windows GDI bitmaps 
 and raw data in memory.)  But what library, if any, would be a good 
 choice?

 Stewart.


 
 Derelict has bindings to both DevIL and SDLimage.


Complementary link: http://derelict.dsource.org/ :)
May 02 2006
prev sibling parent reply Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
For those who are interested, I've uploaded a preliminary version of D3 to

http://pr.stewartsplace.org.uk/d/d3.zip

So far, the only output format I've implemented is a raw bitmap file. 
And I've only tested it under Windows, but it should work under any 
platform.

As I say, it's only preliminary, so just about any aspect of the API is 
subject to change!

And I've had to work around this:

http://d.puremagic.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=85

Stewart.

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May 11 2006
parent David Shoemaker <mrshoe _X_ gmail xx com> <David_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <e3vra2$1trl$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...

For those who are interested, I've uploaded a preliminary version of D3 to

http://pr.stewartsplace.org.uk/d/d3.zip

So far, the only output format I've implemented is a raw bitmap file. 
And I've only tested it under Windows, but it should work under any 
platform.

As I say, it's only preliminary, so just about any aspect of the API is 
subject to change!

And I've had to work around this:

http://d.puremagic.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=85

Stewart.

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Hey,
I just noticed this thread today, because I've finally had some time to spend on
Sol the last few days.  If any of you are using Sol or if you're interested in
contributing to it, let me know.  The ability to save the produced images (with
a possible option of never displaying them at all, as mentioned above) would be
a great addition.  As would uncommenting the mouse-look code and making sure
that works.  Anyways, I have lots of ideas and goals for the project.  Let me
know if you have any ideas or questions.

Thanks,
David Shoemaker
Jun 16 2006