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digitalmars.D - FastCGI?

reply Marcio <mqmnews123 sglebs.com> writes:
	Has anybody done any FastCGI server with D?

	Basically a server app that listens on a port, understands the FastCGI 
protocol, and serves requests. Something that can be put behind Apache, 
either on Windows or Linux.

	I'd like to play with something like that if the libs are available.

	Thanks,

marcio
Mar 14 2006
parent reply Dejan Lekic <dejan nu6.org> writes:
Hello Marcio,
I am 90% done with FastCGI implementation in D - I also need it for writing
web applications in D on my lighttpd web server. :)
It will be released under modified BSD license.

Kind regards

Dejan
Mar 14 2006
parent reply Brad Anderson <brad dsource.dot.org> writes:
Dejan Lekic wrote:

 Hello Marcio,
 I am 90% done with FastCGI implementation in D - I also need it for writing
 web applications in D on my lighttpd web server. :)
 It will be released under modified BSD license.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Dejan


That's sweet.  Any way I could get you to host it on dsource.org?  I am using
FastCGI as the replacement for mod_python with the Trac system at dsource, and
some D extensions would be cool to have as well.

BA
Mar 14 2006
parent reply Dejan Lekic <dejan nu6.org> writes:
Brad, I have my own server for hosting open-source projects, open for almost
anything. Thanks for Your offer. :) All my projects are there, and my
friends' projects as well. :) 

With dfcgi (that is the name of the project) you'll be able to write
web-applications in easy, elegant way.

After dfcgi i will go to the next step - XHTML templating and development of
some nice, flexible web app. framework.

Kind regards

Dejan Lekic
  http://dejan.lekic.org
Mar 14 2006
next sibling parent reply Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:
Dejan Lekic wrote:

 Brad, I have my own server for hosting open-source projects, open for almost
 anything. Thanks for Your offer. :) All my projects are there, and my
 friends' projects as well. :) 
 
 With dfcgi (that is the name of the project) you'll be able to write
 web-applications in easy, elegant way.
 
 After dfcgi i will go to the next step - XHTML templating and development of
 some nice, flexible web app. framework.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Dejan Lekic
   http://dejan.lekic.org


Have you considered collaborating with Eric? He is also interested in getting a
web development framework off the ground.
Mar 14 2006
parent reply Dejan Lekic <dejan nu6.org> writes:
I do not know who Eric is, but from my point, every cooperation on this is
very much apriciated.
Mar 14 2006
parent reply pragma <pragma_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <dv7mpm$1a41$2 digitaldaemon.com>, Dejan Lekic says...

I do not know who Eric is, but from my point, every cooperation on this is
very much apriciated.


That would be me. ;)

(My apologies if any of this is old hat: I have no idea what frame of experience
you're coming from -- total brain dump to follow)

I have DSP (D servlet pages) on the back-burner right now as I concentrate on
DDL - DSP requires it to make dynamic servlets work in D.  The objective of the
project is to have Java Servlet like capabilities, so you can code in D directly
on a page embedded (or not) within markup.  The major drawback here is that it
requires specalized server support, as a stand-alone server.

As for a fast-CGI module, that would be a nice testbed for a common framework
that I'd be more than happy to throw behind DSP; so provided you open your
development, some of your code might find a home there too!  

For dishing up pages, D now has much more of what's needed than it did two years
ago when I started with all this.  All the XML, logging, parsing, localization,
conversion and unicode handling stuff is now available under Mango and ICU.
Database access is (almost) completely unified under DDBI.  The DDL project
(thanks Lars!) has even contributed a nifty ArgParser under DDL that is
currently making the rounds - feel free to use it for FastCGI.

So what's missing from web-enabled D?  Take a look at the sweeping (overkill?)
runtime support that PHP provides.  If you need something more than just "meat
and potatoes" runtime support, you could probably use some of the very same C
libs that PHP is utilizing to cover all the gaps.  The only problem with this
model, is it requires some kind of conversion/thunk to avoid GC issues when
interfacing with legacy libraries.  Also, as PHP has demonstrated, it'll trend
toward a non-uniform (read: expert system) function reference unless it's kept
in check from the start.

- EricAnderon at yahoo
Mar 14 2006
parent reply Dejan Lekic <dejan nu6.org> writes:
Hello Eric, nice to meet You. :)
I agree on almost everything You've written in Your post. DSP could easily
use dfcgi and everyone would be happy. Even though I am more GUI and
client/server developer, I would like to be able to do web development with
D as well, that is why I work on FastCGI implementation. The second reason
for it is that my server runs LIGHTTPD (http://www.lighttpd.net), which is
IMHO the best web server at the moment. Lighty (lighttpd) uses FastCGI, and
my PHP runs on it as php-fcgi...
I do not like ASP/PHP/JSP approach at all - i like to separate HTML (design)
and source code. My experience says to me that having code in HTML leads to
possible maintainance headaches. :) Anyway, dfcgi will soon be there for
testing.
Mar 14 2006
next sibling parent "Unknown W. Brackets" <unknown simplemachines.org> writes:
Honestly, most everyone does, using PHP or otherwise - as long as they 
know what they're doing.

-[Unknown]



 i like to separate HTML (design)
 and source code. My experience says to me that having code in HTML leads to
 possible maintainance headaches. :)
Mar 14 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:
Dejan Lekic wrote:

 Hello Eric, nice to meet You. :)
 I agree on almost everything You've written in Your post. DSP could easily
 use dfcgi and everyone would be happy. Even though I am more GUI and
 client/server developer, I would like to be able to do web development with
 D as well, that is why I work on FastCGI implementation. The second reason
 for it is that my server runs LIGHTTPD (http://www.lighttpd.net), which is
 IMHO the best web server at the moment. Lighty (lighttpd) uses FastCGI, and
 my PHP runs on it as php-fcgi...
 I do not like ASP/PHP/JSP approach at all - i like to separate HTML (design)
 and source code. My experience says to me that having code in HTML leads to
 possible maintainance headaches. :) Anyway, dfcgi will soon be there for
 testing.
 


I'm glad you two got to meet, hopefully collaboration will yield a magnitude
better fruit. Dejan, I just wanted to make sure you 
were aware that all the projects Eric was talking about are hosted on
www.dsource.org.
Mar 14 2006
prev sibling parent pragma <pragma_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <dv8181$1mm5$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Dejan Lekic says...

Hello Eric, nice to meet You. :)
I agree on almost everything You've written in Your post. DSP could easily
use dfcgi and everyone would be happy. Even though I am more GUI and
client/server developer, I would like to be able to do web development with
D as well, that is why I work on FastCGI implementation. The second reason
for it is that my server runs LIGHTTPD (http://www.lighttpd.net), which is
IMHO the best web server at the moment. Lighty (lighttpd) uses FastCGI, and
my PHP runs on it as php-fcgi...


Awesome. I'll have to check out lighttpd sometime.  As for DSP using fastCGI,
that might be an excellent approach for the days ahead until DDL is ready for
prime-time.  


I do not like ASP/PHP/JSP approach at all - i like to separate HTML (design)
and source code. My experience says to me that having code in HTML leads to
possible maintainance headaches. :) 


I'll admit that the approach has its detractors, but its really all in how you
use it.  Ideally, I'd like something like DSP to allow for pure .d pages to be
served up the same as .dsp pages with embedded markup.  That way, the heavy
coding is in all the "code-behind" .d pages with .dsp scripts being mostly
markup with whatever glue is needed to talk to the rest of the app.  


 Anyway, dfcgi will soon be there for testing.


Can't wait!

- EricAnderton at yahoo
Mar 15 2006
prev sibling parent reply "keks (Jan Winkelmann)" <keks unstable.nl> writes:
Dejan Lekic schrieb:

 Brad, I have my own server for hosting open-source projects, open for almost
 anything. Thanks for Your offer. :) All my projects are there, and my
 friends' projects as well. :) 
 
 With dfcgi (that is the name of the project) you'll be able to write
 web-applications in easy, elegant way.
 
 After dfcgi i will go to the next step - XHTML templating and development of
 some nice, flexible web app. framework.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Dejan Lekic
   http://dejan.lekic.org


Hey, I'll just grab the old thread out again.

I am interested in FastCGI, too and would like to know the project's 
status. I checked out dejan.lekic.org but couldn't find anything 
concerning FastCGI. Did you dump the project or just don't host it 
anymore? do you still have the src? First I was about to learn FastCGI 
with C++, but then I heard about D as the C++ without the "yikes".

Or does anyone else still have the lib?

Best regards,

keks || Jan Winkelmann
Jul 30 2008
parent reply "Chris R. Miller" <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> writes:
keks (Jan Winkelmann) wrote:

 anymore? do you still have the src? First I was about to learn FastCGI =



 with C++, but then I heard about D as the C++ without the "yikes".


Oh Walter, that's a quote worth the DMD homepage!  "C++ without the=20
'yikes!'" suits D perfectly!


 Or does anyone else still have the lib?



FastCGID is still a registered project on DSource IIRC:=20
http://dsource.org/projects/fastcgid (formulating URL from memory, that=20
link might be dead)
Jul 30 2008
parent reply Robert Fraser <fraserofthenight gmail.com> writes:
Chris R. Miller Wrote:


 keks (Jan Winkelmann) wrote:

 anymore? do you still have the src? First I was about to learn FastCGI 
 with C++, but then I heard about D as the C++ without the "yikes".


 
 Oh Walter, that's a quote worth the DMD homepage!  "C++ without the 
 'yikes!'" suits D perfectly!
 

 Or does anyone else still have the lib?


 
 
 FastCGID is still a registered project on DSource IIRC: 
 http://dsource.org/projects/fastcgid (formulating URL from memory, that 
 link might be dead)


The link is:
http://dsource.org/projects/fastcgi4d
Jul 30 2008
parent "keks (Jan Winkelmann)" <keks unstable.nl> writes:
Robert Fraser schrieb:

 Chris R. Miller Wrote:
 

 keks (Jan Winkelmann) wrote:

 anymore? do you still have the src? First I was about to learn FastCGI 
 with C++, but then I heard about D as the C++ without the "yikes".


 Oh Walter, that's a quote worth the DMD homepage!  "C++ without the 
 'yikes!'" suits D perfectly!


 Or does anyone else still have the lib?


 FastCGID is still a registered project on DSource IIRC: 
 http://dsource.org/projects/fastcgid (formulating URL from memory, that 
 link might be dead)


 
 The link is:
 http://dsource.org/projects/fastcgi4d


Great, thank you! I'll put a link on various sites, so google gives it a 
higher rank, I don't think I would have found it without your help.

Thanks!

Best regards,
keks || Jan Winkelmann
Jul 30 2008