• hsfrey (9/9) Jan 01 2007 I'm a clueless newbie who just tried to download D from digitalmars.
• Chris Nicholson-Sauls (10/20) Jan 01 2007 Two things.
• Waldemar (10/30) Jan 02 2007 It would be much easier if a suitable *.msi package was available for Wi...
• =?UTF-8?B?QW5kZXJzIEYgQmrDtnJrbHVuZA==?= (6/11) Jan 02 2007 The installer can also set up the path automatically, which
• Mike Parker (5/9) Jan 02 2007 There's nothing difficult about unzipping a zip archive to the C:. The
• =?UTF-8?B?QW5kZXJzIEYgQmrDtnJrbHVuZA==?= (4/8) Jan 02 2007 Why not have both ? That's what we do for GDC.
• BCS (3/15) Jan 02 2007 I totaly agree, but some people like a more "hand holding approch" to
• Derek Parnell (2/11) Jan 02 2007 There's no need for a compiler either, just use assembler!
• Stewart Gordon (7/9) Jan 03 2007 The dm folder on your hard disk is supposed to contain files from both

hsfrey <hsfrey harp.org> writes:

I'm a clueless newbie who just tried to download D from digitalmars.
I got 2 zips, dmc.zip & dmd.zip.
The first expanded to a folder named 'dm' & I moved it to my Programs folder.
The second expanded to 2 folders, one named 'dmd', and the other named AGAIN,
'dm', but much smaller than the original 'dm' folder.
I can't move it to my Programs folder, since it'll overwrite the 'dm' already
there.
Was Gibt?

Harvey

Chris Nicholson-Sauls <ibisbasenji gmail.com> writes:

hsfrey wrote:
 I'm a clueless newbie who just tried to download D from digitalmars.
 I got 2 zips, dmc.zip & dmd.zip.
 The first expanded to a folder named 'dm' & I moved it to my Programs folder.
 The second expanded to 2 folders, one named 'dmd', and the other named AGAIN,
 'dm', but much smaller than the original 'dm' folder.
 I can't move it to my Programs folder, since it'll overwrite the 'dm' already
 there.
 Was Gibt?
 
 Harvey

Two things.

First, you'll probably be better off putting them at the root rather than the
Programs 
folder.  (Mostly the linker's fault.  Might be resolvable, but I've never
bothered trying. 
  Works well from C:\ so I let it be.)

Second, the 'dm' from dmd.zip is actually /meant/ to overwrite the first one. 
:)  So let 
it.  Seems unintuitive, I know... but the data from dmd.zip is the actual D
compiler, 
while that from dmc.zip is the backend, which happens to also be the backend to
DMC 
(DigitalMars C/C++ Compiler).

-- Chris Nicholson-Sauls

Waldemar <waldemar wa-ba.com> writes:

It would be much easier if a suitable *.msi package was available for Win. It
seems easy to generate one.  That's one easy way to increase professional image
of
the project.

Same thing with Linux, an RPM would make it much easier to put things into right
places.  At the very least, the tarball should allow to do make install.



== Quote from Chris Nicholson-Sauls (ibisbasenji gmail.com)'s article
 hsfrey wrote:
 I'm a clueless newbie who just tried to download D from digitalmars.
 I got 2 zips, dmc.zip & dmd.zip.
 The first expanded to a folder named 'dm' & I moved it to my Programs folder.
 The second expanded to 2 folders, one named 'dmd', and the other named AGAIN,
 'dm', but much smaller than the original 'dm' folder.
 I can't move it to my Programs folder, since it'll overwrite the 'dm' already
 there.
 Was Gibt?

 Harvey

 Two things.
 First, you'll probably be better off putting them at the root rather than the

Programs
 folder.  (Mostly the linker's fault.  Might be resolvable, but I've never

bothered trying.
   Works well from C:\ so I let it be.)
 Second, the 'dm' from dmd.zip is actually /meant/ to overwrite the first one.

:)  So let
 it.  Seems unintuitive, I know... but the data from dmd.zip is the actual D

compiler,
 while that from dmc.zip is the backend, which happens to also be the backend
to DMC
 (DigitalMars C/C++ Compiler).
 -- Chris Nicholson-Sauls

=?UTF-8?B?QW5kZXJzIEYgQmrDtnJrbHVuZA==?= <afb algonet.se> writes:

Waldemar wrote:

 It would be much easier if a suitable *.msi package was available for Win. It
 seems easy to generate one.  That's one easy way to increase professional
image of
 the project.

The installer can also set up the path automatically, which
avoids another step in the DMC/DMD installation process...

 Same thing with Linux, an RPM would make it much easier to put things into
right
 places.  At the very least, the tarball should allow to do make install.

I have a dmd.nsi (for EXE) and dmd.spec (for RPM), that I will
update and donate to DigitalMars once DMD 1.0 has been released.

--anders

Mike Parker <aldacron71 yahoo.com> writes:

Waldemar wrote:
 It would be much easier if a suitable *.msi package was available for Win. It
 seems easy to generate one.  That's one easy way to increase professional
image of
 the project.
 

There's nothing difficult about unzipping a zip archive to the C:. The 
lack of an installer is refreshing, actually. Setting up the path is a 
one-off thing that need not be repeated. There's utterly no need for an 
installer.

=?UTF-8?B?QW5kZXJzIEYgQmrDtnJrbHVuZA==?= <afb algonet.se> writes:

Mike Parker wrote:

 There's nothing difficult about unzipping a zip archive to the C:. The 
 lack of an installer is refreshing, actually. Setting up the path is a 
 one-off thing that need not be repeated. There's utterly no need for an 
 installer.

Why not have both ? That's what we do for GDC.
(one binary zip/tarball, one installer/package)

--anders

BCS <BCS pathlink.com> writes:

Mike Parker wrote:
 Waldemar wrote:
 
 It would be much easier if a suitable *.msi package was available for 
 Win. It
 seems easy to generate one.  That's one easy way to increase 
 professional image of
 the project.

 There's nothing difficult about unzipping a zip archive to the C:. The 
 lack of an installer is refreshing, actually. Setting up the path is a 
 one-off thing that need not be repeated. There's utterly no need for an 
 installer.

I totaly agree, but some people like a more "hand holding approch" to 
things.

Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> writes:

On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 02:39:31 +0900, Mike Parker wrote:

 Waldemar wrote:
 It would be much easier if a suitable *.msi package was available for Win. It
 seems easy to generate one.  That's one easy way to increase professional
image of
 the project.
 

 There's nothing difficult about unzipping a zip archive to the C:. The 
 lack of an installer is refreshing, actually. Setting up the path is a 
 one-off thing that need not be repeated. There's utterly no need for an 
 installer.

There's no need for a compiler either, just use assembler!

Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:

Chris Nicholson-Sauls wrote:

<snip>
 Second, the 'dm' from dmd.zip is actually /meant/ to overwrite the first 
 one.  :)

The dm folder on your hard disk is supposed to contain files from both 
dmc.zip and dmd.zip.  Using WinZip, probably other unzippers as well, 
all you need to do is extract both zips to the same place, effectively 
merging them.

Stewart.