• Craig Black (4/4) Jul 01 2005 I'm not saying immutable stuff isn't useful. I use const all the time i...
• Uwe Salomon (6/10) Jul 01 2005 Yes. I agree. I like the solution proposed by Walter, and one of the
• Nick (6/14) Jul 01 2005 I vote "I don't care, as long as it's not done now." :) Adding more feat...
• Brad Beveridge (20/27) Jul 01 2005 To be honest, I really don't mind what Walter works on - after all it is...
• Victor Nakoryakov (6/13) Jul 01 2005 Agree, there are more important things.
• Unknown W. Brackets (2/9) Jul 01 2005
• John Demme (2/9) Jul 01 2005
• Andrew Fedoniouk (16/19) Jul 01 2005 This is non-correct vote.
• =?iso-8859-1?q?Knud_S=F8rensen?= (6/11) Jul 01 2005 This is why i made the unofficial wish list in the first place.

"Craig Black" <cblack ara.com> writes:

I'm not saying immutable stuff isn't useful.  I use const all the time in 
C++, and it works for me.  But this feature is way low on my priority list. 
Anyone agree?

-Craig 

"Uwe Salomon" <post uwesalomon.de> writes:

 I'm not saying immutable stuff isn't useful.  I use const all the time in
 C++, and it works for me.  But this feature is way low on my priority  
 list.
 Anyone agree?

Yes. I agree. I like the solution proposed by Walter, and one of the  
reasons for that is that it can be included later without much change in  
our sources, and does not need to be done today, when we still have some  
internal errors and bugs poking 'round.

Ciao
uwe

Nick <Nick_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <op.ss8md5pz6yjbe6 sandmann.maerchenwald.net>, Uwe Salomon says...
 I'm not saying immutable stuff isn't useful.  I use const all the time in
 C++, and it works for me.  But this feature is way low on my priority  
 list.
 Anyone agree?

Yes. I agree. I like the solution proposed by Walter, and one of the  
reasons for that is that it can be included later without much change in  
our sources, and does not need to be done today, when we still have some  
internal errors and bugs poking 'round.

I vote "I don't care, as long as it's not done now." :) Adding more features
only gives more bugs to fix. I think DMD needs a feature freeze now, to fix the
bugs that already exist and to get out of it's current "beta" stage, more than
anything.

Nick

Brad Beveridge <brad somewhere.net> writes:

Craig Black wrote:
 I'm not saying immutable stuff isn't useful.  I use const all the time in 
 C++, and it works for me.  But this feature is way low on my priority list. 
 Anyone agree?
 
 -Craig 
 
 

To be honest, I really don't mind what Walter works on - after all it is 
his baby.  What I do find annoying is when we get a very long and 
interesting thread (in which the participants know what they are on 
about), and that thread exposes lots of good ideas, and then the thread 
dies with the phrase "I wonder what Walter thinks about all this".
In cases when a thread gets to that stage I think that it would be nice 
for Walter to write a few words, even if it is just "Guys, I'm thinking 
about this, but don't know what to do.  Keep talking we might get somewhere"

So, with the whole voting thing I think that I was trying to get Walter 
to say _something_ :)

Which in this case he did.  We now know that Walter is
a) Aware of the issue of immutablilty/constness, etc
b) Actively thinking about it & talking about it with people off list
c) Still trying to work out the details.

Which means that we can now probably sigh with relief that our concerns 
aren't falling on deaf ears.

Sorry, that was longer than I intended.

Cheers
Brad

Victor Nakoryakov <nail-mail mail.ru> writes:

Craig Black wrote:
 I'm not saying immutable stuff isn't useful.  I use const all the time in 
 C++, and it works for me.  But this feature is way low on my priority list. 
 Anyone agree?
 
 -Craig 
 
 

Agree, there are more important things.

-- 
Victor (aka nail) Nakoryakov
nail-mail<at>mail<dot>ru

Krasnoznamensk, Moscow, Russia

"Unknown W. Brackets" <unknown simplemachines.org> writes:

Agreed.

-[Unknown]


 I'm not saying immutable stuff isn't useful.  I use const all the time in 
 C++, and it works for me.  But this feature is way low on my priority list. 
 Anyone agree?
 
 -Craig 
 
 

John Demme <me teqdruid.com> writes:

I want Linux debugging, and better interface support before this.

On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 08:21 -0500, Craig Black wrote:
 I'm not saying immutable stuff isn't useful.  I use const all the time in 
 C++, and it works for me.  But this feature is way low on my priority list. 
 Anyone agree?
 
 -Craig 
 
 

"Andrew Fedoniouk" <news terrainformatica.com> writes:

"Craig Black" <cblack ara.com> wrote in message 
news:da3g1h$13j8$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I'm not saying immutable stuff isn't useful.  I use const all the time in 
 C++, and it works for me.  But this feature is way low on my priority 
 list. Anyone agree?

This is non-correct vote.

It should have a list of options - priorities.


By now I am cosidering D (as universal language) as full
except of two major features missed:

1) immutability for arrays and pointers. (All other types has already such 
mechanism)
2) struct opAssign/ctor/dtor.


emulate (at some extent)
first one. Ideally it should be both of them.

E.g. only if D will have immutable char[] then this char[]  together with 

considered as "D has strings".



 

=?iso-8859-1?q?Knud_S=F8rensen?= <12tkvvb02 sneakemail.com> writes:

This is why i made the unofficial wish list in the first place.
http://all-technology.com/eigenpolls/dwishlist/
It gives Walter a nice prioritised list to look at 
http://all-technology.com/eigenpolls/dwishlist/story.php
which could save him a lot of time reading all the postings.


On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 08:21:05 -0500, Craig Black wrote:

 I'm not saying immutable stuff isn't useful.  I use const all the time in 
 C++, and it works for me.  But this feature is way low on my priority list. 
 Anyone agree?
 
 -Craig