digitalmars.D - [OT] Is it me, or are these NGs very..
- Jarrett Billingsley (4/4) Jun 29 2005 Dead?
- Craig Black (5/5) Jun 29 2005 Dead?
- AJG (7/11) Jun 29 2005 I blame the newsgroup system ;). People are just too used to regular web...
- Carlos Santander (5/13) Jun 29 2005 I like forums but I prefer newsgroups because I can browse them offline....
- clayasaurus (2/9) Jun 29 2005 It is not dead, it is just sleeping...
- John Reimer (7/14) Jun 30 2005 It's summer. What do you expect? :-) People typically get outrageously
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"John Reimer"
- John Reimer (2/9) Jun 30 2005 Darn computer... that's the second time.
- pragma (10/14) Jun 29 2005 Everyone's on vacation. Sniff around dsource.org and you'll see a sudde...
- Jarrett Billingsley (12/23) Jun 29 2005 Hehe, though to tell the truth, if I had to use one language other than ...
- Unknown W. Brackets (7/17) Jun 29 2005 Alas, that discussion has happened many times previous. Considering I
- Thomas Kuehne (3/9) Jun 29 2005 How about a forum that uses a nntp server for storing messages?
- Unknown W. Brackets (12/15) Jun 29 2005 Well, some of the main purposes of forums are to:
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- =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_F_Bj=F6rklund?= (4/7) Jun 29 2005 It's a shame that Google Groups refuses to pick up the digitalmars NGs.
- Walter (6/10) Jun 29 2005 past
- Ilya Minkov (17/23) Jul 15 2005 Sorry, it's somewhat tasteless, but i'll post it anyway
- AJG (4/26) Jul 15 2005 I agree there's been some sniffing going on. What, who, where?
Dead? Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 8 days. The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.
Jun 29 2005
"Craig Black" <cblack ara.com> Dead? strategically eliminating everyone who posts to this newsgroup, and YOU could be next. -Craig
Jun 29 2005
I blame the newsgroup system ;). People are just too used to regular web forums nowadays, so I think it hampers the community's growth. I always use the web interface; I don't think I even have a newsreader installed. --AJG. In article <d9u7hi$17ep$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Jarrett Billingsley says...Dead? Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 8 days. The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.================================ 2B || !2B, that is the question.
Jun 29 2005
AJG escribió:I blame the newsgroup system ;). People are just too used to regular web forums nowadays, so I think it hampers the community's growth. I always use the web interface; I don't think I even have a newsreader installed. --AJG. ================================ 2B || !2B, that is the question.I like forums but I prefer newsgroups because I can browse them offline. It's a plus for us with dial-up. -- Carlos Santander Bernal
Jun 29 2005
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:Dead? Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 8 days. The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.It is not dead, it is just sleeping...
Jun 29 2005
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:Dead? Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 8 days. The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.It's summer. What do you expect? :-) People typically get outrageously busy during summer. I know I do. I've had very little time for D over the last couple of months. You'll see. Come fall and winter... it'll be a-buzzing again here. I was noticing that dsource was stagnating too. -JJR
Jun 30 2005
"John Reimer" <brk_6502 yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d9uf75$1iv9$1 digitaldaemon.com... Woah! How'd you post from the future? If I'm not mistaken, there is nowhere in the world right now where it's 11:30 AM on the 30th..
Jun 29 2005
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:"John Reimer" <brk_6502 yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d9uf75$1iv9$1 digitaldaemon.com... Woah! How'd you post from the future? If I'm not mistaken, there is nowhere in the world right now where it's 11:30 AM on the 30th..Darn computer... that's the second time.
Jun 30 2005
In article <d9u7hi$17ep$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Jarrett Billingsley says...Dead? Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 8 days. The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.Everyone's on vacation. Sniff around dsource.org and you'll see a sudden drop in activity from frequent posters. Kris was out all last week, and if this summer is anything like the last, he'll be gone for a while. I'm in Denver right now on training at Sun (yes, we're taking on more Java at work.. burn me as a heretic when I get back). So I've dropped off the radar a little. I'm sure things will pick back up in Sept/Aug. - EricAnderton at yahoo
Jun 29 2005
"Craig Black" <cblack ara.com> wrote in message news:d9ua6n$1ajk$1 digitaldaemon.com...strategically eliminating everyone who posts to this newsgroup, and YOU could be next.Hehe, though to tell the truth, if I had to use one language other than D, "AJG" <AJG_member pathlink.com> wrote in message news:d9udab$1f3p$1 digitaldaemon.com...I blame the newsgroup system ;). People are just too used to regular web forums nowadays, so I think it hampers the community's growth. I always use the web interface; I don't think I even have a newsreader installed.As an avid forumer, I'll have to agree with you there.. NGs seem like something out of the infancy of the internet. Or before that. Even a very basic forum system would be better than this. "pragma" <pragma_member pathlink.com> wrote in message news:d9uk1b$1ouu$1 digitaldaemon.com...Everyone's on vacation. Sniff around dsource.org and you'll see a sudden drop in activity from frequent posters.At least it's not just here!
Jun 29 2005
Alas, that discussion has happened many times previous. Considering I write forum software, one should have an idea of my position ;). Walter, on the other hand, seems to prefer newsgroups - I believe he felt it preferable to be able to work with a client of your choice, than a web interface (to which my answer would be theming, but that still doesn't completely solve it.) -[Unknown]I blame the newsgroup system ;). People are just too used to regular web forums nowadays, so I think it hampers the community's growth. I always use the web interface; I don't think I even have a newsreader installed.As an avid forumer, I'll have to agree with you there.. NGs seem like something out of the infancy of the internet. Or before that. Even a very basic forum system would be better than this.
Jun 29 2005
Unknown W. Brackets schrieb am Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:25:04 -0700:Alas, that discussion has happened many times previous. Considering I write forum software, one should have an idea of my position ;). Walter, on the other hand, seems to prefer newsgroups - I believe he felt it preferable to be able to work with a client of your choice, than a web interface (to which my answer would be theming, but that still doesn't completely solve it.)How about a forum that uses a nntp server for storing messages? Thomas
Jun 29 2005
Well, some of the main purposes of forums are to: - track members (NNTP doesn't understand this, iirc.) - keep track of their preferences (NNTP clients do this currently.) - allow moderation and similar things (stickies, locking, etc.) While an NNTP *hookup* could be made, storing it with NNTP wouldn't really work out so well. You'd lose most of the benefits of forums, and lose the benefits of clients as well - in short, you'd be back to the current web interface. Anyway, I doubt the hosting digitalmars.com is currently with would allow a different NNTP server to be installed (whether by xinetd or what have you) to serve things, so I'm not sure that would work either. -[Unknown]How about a forum that uses a nntp server for storing messages? Thomas
Jun 29 2005
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Unknown W. Brackets schrieb am Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:13:23 -0700:
Well, some of the main purposes of forums are to:
- track members (NNTP doesn't understand this, iirc.)
- keep track of their preferences (NNTP clients do this currently.)
- allow moderation and similar things (stickies, locking, etc.)
While an NNTP *hookup* could be made, storing it with NNTP wouldn't
really work out so well. You'd lose most of the benefits of forums, and
lose the benefits of clients as well - in short, you'd be back to the
current web interface.
Anyway, I doubt the hosting digitalmars.com is currently with would
allow a different NNTP server to be installed (whether by xinetd or what
have you) to serve things, so I'm not sure that would work either.
I was thinking about 2 backends:
- - plain NNTP for messages (allows: chancel & edit)
- - DB of your choice to to store all the added-value data
Tracking and preferences aren't the problem.
If you customise the NNTP server you could enforce thread locking
(-> references header).
Stickies can only effect the forum UI not the NNTP side.
Granted, the NNTP server could play with Date and Xref ...
Thomas
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Jun 29 2005
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:As an avid forumer, I'll have to agree with you there.. NGs seem like something out of the infancy of the internet. Or before that. Even a very basic forum system would be better than this.It's a shame that Google Groups refuses to pick up the digitalmars NGs. It would have made it more accessible... But there's always Dsource ? --anders
Jun 29 2005
"Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d9u7hi$17ep$1 digitaldaemon.com...Dead? Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in thepast8 days. The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.It's normal for traffic to drop off substantially in the summer. August is particularly dead. Back in the old Zortech days, we'd not even bother spending money on advertising in August.
Jun 29 2005
Jarrett Billingsley schrieb:Dead? Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 8 days. The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.Sorry, it's somewhat tasteless, but i'll post it anyway --- 8< --- Every night with my star friends We eat caviar and drink champagne Snifing in the V.I.P. area We talk about Frank Sinatra Do you know the Frank Sinatra? He's dead He's dead hahahahahaha [...] --- >8 --- Miss Kittin & The Hacker around 2000 maybe. The rest is even more tasteless. Draw your conclusions, gentlemen. -3yE
Jul 15 2005
In article <db9bo7$li$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Ilya Minkov says...Jarrett Billingsley schrieb:I agree there's been some sniffing going on. What, who, where? I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader. --AJG.Dead? Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 8 days. The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.Sorry, it's somewhat tasteless, but i'll post it anyway --- 8< --- Every night with my star friends We eat caviar and drink champagne Snifing in the V.I.P. area We talk about Frank Sinatra Do you know the Frank Sinatra? He's dead He's dead hahahahahaha [...] --- >8 --- Miss Kittin & The Hacker around 2000 maybe. The rest is even more tasteless. Draw your conclusions, gentlemen.
Jul 15 2005