digitalmars.D - Chaining methods

David Medlock (14/14) Apr 11 2005 Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow chaining

zwang (3/22) Apr 11 2005 Try this instead:

David Medlock (6/31) Apr 11 2005 Thanks for the tip, but the question I am asking is why doesn't the D

Lars Ivar Igesund (7/44) Apr 11 2005 No, it's not. If you ignore the fact that 'new' is more like a function

David Medlock (20/71) Apr 11 2005 It is not in _this_ implementation, but I can tell you in most compilers...

Andrew Fedoniouk (25/99) Apr 11 2005 What compiler do you use?

David Medlock (2/127) Apr 11 2005 I used Digital Mars C++ ;)

Lars Ivar Igesund (10/93) Apr 13 2005 Sorry for sortof misunderstanding your original point. I agree that your...

Ant (5/19) Apr 11 2005 do:
Kaz. (17/31) Apr 11 2005 In D,

David Medlock <amedlock nospam.org> writes:

Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow chaining 
method calls from a constructor?


class A
{
   int SZ = 0;
   this() { SZ = 0; }
   int Size() { return SZ; }
}

void main( char[][] arg )
{
   int var = new A().Size();
}

chain.d(10): semicolon expected, not '.'

-David

Apr 11 2005

zwang <nehzgnaw gmail.com> writes:

David Medlock wrote:
 Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow chaining 
 method calls from a constructor?
 
 
 class A
 {
   int SZ = 0;
   this() { SZ = 0; }
   int Size() { return SZ; }
 }
 
 void main( char[][] arg )
 {
   int var = new A().Size();
 }
 
 chain.d(10): semicolon expected, not '.'
 
 -David

Try this instead:
int var = (new A()).Size();

Apr 11 2005

David Medlock <amedlock nospam.org> writes:

zwang wrote:
 David Medlock wrote:
 
 Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow 
 chaining method calls from a constructor?


 class A
 {
   int SZ = 0;
   this() { SZ = 0; }
   int Size() { return SZ; }
 }

 void main( char[][] arg )
 {
   int var = new A().Size();
 }

 chain.d(10): semicolon expected, not '.'

 -David

 
 
 Try this instead:
 int var = (new A()).Size();

Thanks for the tip, but the question I am asking is why doesn't the D 
compiler allow the syntax I posted?

 From an AST perspective, the type of 'new A()' is the same as a 
variable of type A.  More a question for Walter I guess.

-David

Apr 11 2005

Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:

David Medlock wrote:
 zwang wrote:
 
 David Medlock wrote:

 Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow 
 chaining method calls from a constructor?


 class A
 {
   int SZ = 0;
   this() { SZ = 0; }
   int Size() { return SZ; }
 }

 void main( char[][] arg )
 {
   int var = new A().Size();
 }

 chain.d(10): semicolon expected, not '.'

 -David



 Try this instead:
 int var = (new A()).Size();

 
 
 Thanks for the tip, but the question I am asking is why doesn't the D 
 compiler allow the syntax I posted?
 
  From an AST perspective, the type of 'new A()' is the same as a 
 variable of type A.  More a question for Walter I guess.
 
 -David

No, it's not. If you ignore the fact that 'new' is more like a function 
(overloadable in a class), then;

A is a class, and A.Size() means that Size is a static method in A.
(new A) is an instance of type A, and (new A).Size() is a method 
probably needing the context in which the object was instantiated.

Lars Ivar Igesund

Apr 11 2005

David Medlock <nospam nospam.com> writes:

Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 David Medlock wrote:
 
 zwang wrote:

 David Medlock wrote:

 Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow 
 chaining method calls from a constructor?


 class A
 {
   int SZ = 0;
   this() { SZ = 0; }
   int Size() { return SZ; }
 }

 void main( char[][] arg )
 {
   int var = new A().Size();
 }

 chain.d(10): semicolon expected, not '.'

 -David




 Try this instead:
 int var = (new A()).Size();



 Thanks for the tip, but the question I am asking is why doesn't the D 
 compiler allow the syntax I posted?

  From an AST perspective, the type of 'new A()' is the same as a 
 variable of type A.  More a question for Walter I guess.

 -David

 
 
 No, it's not. If you ignore the fact that 'new' is more like a function 
 (overloadable in a class), then;
 
 A is a class, and A.Size() means that Size is a static method in A.
 (new A) is an instance of type A, and (new A).Size() is a method 
 probably needing the context in which the object was instantiated.
 
 Lars Ivar Igesund

It is not in _this_ implementation, but I can tell you in most compilers 
the *type* of the new expression is a variable of type A, which should 
be able to dereference.

If you disagree, tell me where the result of a new expression is not 
valid and a class reference is.

-David

Method chaining is actually a C++ idiom.
Here's a C++ version, which compiles fine:

   class A
   {
     public:
     int SZ ;
     A() : SZ(0) { }

     int Size() { return SZ; }
   };

   int  main( int argc, char** arg )
   {
     int var = new A()->Size();
   }

Apr 11 2005

"Andrew Fedoniouk" <news terrainformatica.com> writes:

 -David

 Method chaining is actually a C++ idiom.
 Here's a C++ version, which compiles fine:

What compiler do you use?

VC++ from 6.0 up to VC++ 2005/Widbey
produce following:

Compiling...
chain.cpp
c:\tests\chain\chain.cpp(17) : error C2440: 'initializing' : cannot convert 
from 'A *' to 'int'
There is no context in which this conversion is possible
c:\tests\chain\chain.cpp(17) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' 
before '->'

while compiling

class A
{
public:
int SZ ;
A() : SZ(0) { }
int Size() { return SZ; }
};
int main( int argc, char** arg )
{
  int var = new A()->Size();
  return var;
}



"David Medlock" <nospam nospam.com> wrote in message 
news:d3es51$jkb$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 David Medlock wrote:

 zwang wrote:

 David Medlock wrote:

 Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow 
 chaining method calls from a constructor?


 class A
 {
   int SZ = 0;
   this() { SZ = 0; }
   int Size() { return SZ; }
 }

 void main( char[][] arg )
 {
   int var = new A().Size();
 }

 chain.d(10): semicolon expected, not '.'

 -David




 Try this instead:
 int var = (new A()).Size();



 Thanks for the tip, but the question I am asking is why doesn't the D 
 compiler allow the syntax I posted?

  From an AST perspective, the type of 'new A()' is the same as a 
 variable of type A.  More a question for Walter I guess.

 -David


 No, it's not. If you ignore the fact that 'new' is more like a function 
 (overloadable in a class), then;

 A is a class, and A.Size() means that Size is a static method in A.
 (new A) is an instance of type A, and (new A).Size() is a method probably 
 needing the context in which the object was instantiated.

 Lars Ivar Igesund

 It is not in _this_ implementation, but I can tell you in most compilers 
 the *type* of the new expression is a variable of type A, which should be 
 able to dereference.

 If you disagree, tell me where the result of a new expression is not valid 
 and a class reference is.

 -David

 Method chaining is actually a C++ idiom.
 Here's a C++ version, which compiles fine:

   class A
   {
     public:
     int SZ ;
     A() : SZ(0) { }

     int Size() { return SZ; }
   };

   int  main( int argc, char** arg )
   {
     int var = new A()->Size();
   }

Apr 11 2005

David Medlock <nospam nospam.com> writes:

Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:
-David

Method chaining is actually a C++ idiom.
Here's a C++ version, which compiles fine:

 
 
 What compiler do you use?
 
 VC++ from 6.0 up to VC++ 2005/Widbey
 produce following:
 
 Compiling...
 chain.cpp
 c:\tests\chain\chain.cpp(17) : error C2440: 'initializing' : cannot convert 
 from 'A *' to 'int'
 There is no context in which this conversion is possible
 c:\tests\chain\chain.cpp(17) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' 
 before '->'
 
 while compiling
 
 class A
 {
 public:
 int SZ ;
 A() : SZ(0) { }
 int Size() { return SZ; }
 };
 int main( int argc, char** arg )
 {
   int var = new A()->Size();
   return var;
 }
 
 
 
 "David Medlock" <nospam nospam.com> wrote in message 
 news:d3es51$jkb$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 
Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:

David Medlock wrote:


zwang wrote:


David Medlock wrote:


Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow 
chaining method calls from a constructor?


class A
{
  int SZ = 0;
  this() { SZ = 0; }
  int Size() { return SZ; }
}

void main( char[][] arg )
{
  int var = new A().Size();
}

chain.d(10): semicolon expected, not '.'

-David




Try this instead:
int var = (new A()).Size();



Thanks for the tip, but the question I am asking is why doesn't the D 
compiler allow the syntax I posted?

 From an AST perspective, the type of 'new A()' is the same as a 
variable of type A.  More a question for Walter I guess.

-David


No, it's not. If you ignore the fact that 'new' is more like a function 
(overloadable in a class), then;

A is a class, and A.Size() means that Size is a static method in A.
(new A) is an instance of type A, and (new A).Size() is a method probably 
needing the context in which the object was instantiated.

Lars Ivar Igesund

It is not in _this_ implementation, but I can tell you in most compilers 
the *type* of the new expression is a variable of type A, which should be 
able to dereference.

If you disagree, tell me where the result of a new expression is not valid 
and a class reference is.

-David

Method chaining is actually a C++ idiom.
Here's a C++ version, which compiles fine:

  class A
  {
    public:
    int SZ ;
    A() : SZ(0) { }

    int Size() { return SZ; }
  };

  int  main( int argc, char** arg )
  {
    int var = new A()->Size();
  } 

 
 
 

I used Digital Mars C++ ;)

Apr 11 2005

Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:

David Medlock wrote:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 
 David Medlock wrote:

 zwang wrote:

 David Medlock wrote:

 Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow 
 chaining method calls from a constructor?


 class A
 {
   int SZ = 0;
   this() { SZ = 0; }
   int Size() { return SZ; }
 }

 void main( char[][] arg )
 {
   int var = new A().Size();
 }

 chain.d(10): semicolon expected, not '.'

 -David





 Try this instead:
 int var = (new A()).Size();




 Thanks for the tip, but the question I am asking is why doesn't the D 
 compiler allow the syntax I posted?

  From an AST perspective, the type of 'new A()' is the same as a 
 variable of type A.  More a question for Walter I guess.

 -David



 No, it's not. If you ignore the fact that 'new' is more like a 
 function (overloadable in a class), then;

 A is a class, and A.Size() means that Size is a static method in A.
 (new A) is an instance of type A, and (new A).Size() is a method 
 probably needing the context in which the object was instantiated.

 Lars Ivar Igesund

 
 
 It is not in _this_ implementation, but I can tell you in most compilers 
 the *type* of the new expression is a variable of type A, which should 
 be able to dereference.
 
 If you disagree, tell me where the result of a new expression is not 
 valid and a class reference is.
 
 -David
 
 Method chaining is actually a C++ idiom.
 Here's a C++ version, which compiles fine:
 
   class A
   {
     public:
     int SZ ;
     A() : SZ(0) { }
 
     int Size() { return SZ; }
   };
 
   int  main( int argc, char** arg )
   {
     int var = new A()->Size();
   }

Sorry for sortof misunderstanding your original point. I agree that your 
  interpretation could have worked (logically), but I think that D's 
position on ease of implementation might hinder it, as there probably is 
several possible interpretations (as I tried to show in my last post) 
that might conflict.

Also, whether it works or not in C++ is rather unimportant IMO. I hadn't 
seen it before, myself (not the most experienced C++-programmer out 
there, but anyway).

Lars Ivar Igesund

Apr 13 2005

Ant <Ant_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <d3e5mt$2ooo$1 digitaldaemon.com>, David Medlock says...
Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow chaining 
method calls from a constructor?


class A
{
   int SZ = 0;
   this() { SZ = 0; }
   int Size() { return SZ; }
}

void main( char[][] arg )
{
   int var = new A().Size();
}

chain.d(10): semicolon expected, not '.'

-David

do:
int var = (new A()).Size();

now ask the next question.

Ant

Apr 11 2005

Kaz. <Kaz._member pathlink.com> writes:

In D,
new foo.bar
is parsed as:
new (foo.bar)
not (new foo).bar.

Maybe this behaviour is for instanciating nested classes:

class A {
class B {}
}

void main() {
A   a  = new A;
A.B b1 = new A.B; //
A.B b2 = new a.B; //
}


In article <d3e5mt$2ooo$1 digitaldaemon.com>, David Medlock says...
Not sure if this has been brought up, but why does D not allow chaining 
method calls from a constructor?


class A
{
   int SZ = 0;
   this() { SZ = 0; }
   int Size() { return SZ; }
}

void main( char[][] arg )
{
   int var = new A().Size();
}

chain.d(10): semicolon expected, not '.'

-David

-- 
Kazuhiro Inaba

Apr 11 2005

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