• Rox271 (8/8) Mar 03 2005 D looks like an interesting language and I'm interested in moving on D.
• Nick Sabalausky (14/22) Mar 03 2005 Add-ons to existng IDE's, such as
• Rox271 (6/35) Mar 04 2005 Many thanks for this information.
• Mike Parker (9/11) Mar 04 2005 You can hardly expect major tools for D to be developed until after 1.0

Rox271 <rox271 yahoo.com> writes:

D looks like an interesting language and I'm interested in moving on D.
But... let's be real. I mean the competition with .NET is incredible and 
with the pressure we get to produce lines of code, an excellent IDE with 
integrated debugging is a must. Just because of that, there is little 
chance I move on D before I retire and (unfortunately) this won't be 
tomorrow.
DIDE was the most promissing IDE project but for some reason it retired.
What serious alternative do we have?

"Nick Sabalausky" <z a.a> writes:

"Rox271" <rox271 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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D looks like an interesting language and I'm interested in moving on D.
 But... let's be real. I mean the competition with .NET is incredible and 
 with the pressure we get to produce lines of code, an excellent IDE with 
 integrated debugging is a must. Just because of that, there is little 
 chance I move on D before I retire and (unfortunately) this won't be 
 tomorrow.
 DIDE was the most promissing IDE project but for some reason it retired.
 What serious alternative do we have?

Add-ons to existng IDE's, such as
http://www.dsource.org/projects/dcoder/  (For Visual Studio .NET)
http://reverie.xrea.jp/wiki/VSpluginD.html  (Also for Visual Studio .NET)
http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/xcode/ (For XCode)

And I'm sure there will be an addin for Eclipse at some point as well, if 
there isn't already.

Personally, I think solid support from exiting IDE's (through either add-ins 
or enhancements to the IDE's core) is a much better solution than just 
building an entirely new IDE from scratch. The current IDE addins for D 
still need some work, but IDE addins in general are fairly simple/easy 
projects, especially compared to building an entire IDE. So I think decent 
ones could emerge fairly quickly. 

Rox271 <rox271 yahoo.com> writes:

Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 "Rox271" <rox271 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
 news:d084fd$2i6l$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 
D looks like an interesting language and I'm interested in moving on D.
But... let's be real. I mean the competition with .NET is incredible and 
with the pressure we get to produce lines of code, an excellent IDE with 
integrated debugging is a must. Just because of that, there is little 
chance I move on D before I retire and (unfortunately) this won't be 
tomorrow.
DIDE was the most promissing IDE project but for some reason it retired.
What serious alternative do we have?

 
 
 Add-ons to existng IDE's, such as
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/dcoder/  (For Visual Studio .NET)
 http://reverie.xrea.jp/wiki/VSpluginD.html  (Also for Visual Studio .NET)
 http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/xcode/ (For XCode)
 
 And I'm sure there will be an addin for Eclipse at some point as well, if 
 there isn't already.
 
 Personally, I think solid support from exiting IDE's (through either add-ins 
 or enhancements to the IDE's core) is a much better solution than just 
 building an entirely new IDE from scratch. The current IDE addins for D 
 still need some work, but IDE addins in general are fairly simple/easy 
 projects, especially compared to building an entire IDE. So I think decent 
 ones could emerge fairly quickly. 
 
 

Many thanks for this information.
Actually I already tried some of these solutions and was not convinced.
Do you think any of these solutions actually compete with the native C++ 
support of VisualStudion.NET? My concern is also that by now D is no 
more a brand new project and there is still no solution emerging.

Mike Parker <aldacron71 yahoo.com> writes:

Rox271 wrote:

 support of VisualStudion.NET? My concern is also that by now D is no 
 more a brand new project and there is still no solution emerging.

You can hardly expect major tools for D to be developed until after 1.0 
is released. Tools that have been created to date have been developed by 
individuals in the D community, the active segment of which is still 
quite small. Solid tools exist for Java and C++ because those languages 
have been in widespread use for years. As the D community grows, the 
demand for a D IDE will grow and someone (or some company) will step in 
to meet it. Granted, a quality IDE is a big plus, but the lack of one 
now is nothing to be concerned about.