• Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> Jul 19 2001
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Jul 19 2001
• Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> Jul 20 2001
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Jul 20 2001
• Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> Jul 20 2001
• Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> Jul 20 2001
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Jul 20 2001
• Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> Jul 21 2001
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Jul 21 2001
• Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> Jul 22 2001
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Jul 20 2001
• Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> Jul 21 2001

Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> writes:

Hi,

I'm having some trouble getting DM C++ going properly. I noticed that
copying the CD over produced some read errors, and for some reason files
went missing. I corrected that, and installed the latest update as well.

Next was the AppExpert, which complained that sct3d32.dll wasn't installed
properly. The caption gave this one away, it is the ctl3d32 or dv2 variant,
which must go in the windows system folder (unlike the normal 3d which can
anywhere). Had to rename the one in the DM\BIN folder to dlo, to get rid of
the error.

That is all minor, but the resource editor just blowing up is less trivial.
I tried the rs32.new as the rs32.exe, and it complained about the
smfc30.dll. the original one just says abnormal program termination when it
opens a rc file written by the AppExpert. I tried it one some others, bit
of hit and miss. Two questions, can anybody reproduce and can anybody offer
solution. FYI, 98SE, +5GB free disk space on own partition, same config
runs the old sc++.

Your help / advice is appreciated.

Chris

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:

Don't use the .new file, it was a mistake to put it on, and was removed in
later CD's. What exactly did you do to the sct3d32.dll to make it work for
you?

Chris wrote in message <065fltgfskr7euk4hfs6012ffm7l97ito5 4ax.com>...
Hi,

I'm having some trouble getting DM C++ going properly. I noticed that
copying the CD over produced some read errors, and for some reason files
went missing. I corrected that, and installed the latest update as well.

Next was the AppExpert, which complained that sct3d32.dll wasn't installed
properly. The caption gave this one away, it is the ctl3d32 or dv2 variant,
which must go in the windows system folder (unlike the normal 3d which can
anywhere). Had to rename the one in the DM\BIN folder to dlo, to get rid of
the error.

That is all minor, but the resource editor just blowing up is less trivial.
I tried the rs32.new as the rs32.exe, and it complained about the
smfc30.dll. the original one just says abnormal program termination when it
opens a rc file written by the AppExpert. I tried it one some others, bit
of hit and miss. Two questions, can anybody reproduce and can anybody offer
solution. FYI, 98SE, +5GB free disk space on own partition, same config
runs the old sc++.

Your help / advice is appreciated.

Chris

Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> writes:

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:21:03 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

Don't use the .new file, it was a mistake to put it on, and was removed in
later CD's. What exactly did you do to the sct3d32.dll to make it work for
you?


I copied it to to the windows system dir (I use 98SE) and then renamed it
in the DM\BIN to something else than .DLL. That prevented the AppExpert
from showing an error (I did seem to work, even when it said that the dll
wasn't installed properly). It didn't stop the rs32.exe from bombing (old
and new, both crash, although it looks like the new is an unhandled
exception, and the old is trapping it. I'm currently not using the .new one
though.

Chris

Chris wrote in message <065fltgfskr7euk4hfs6012ffm7l97ito5 4ax.com>...
Hi,

I'm having some trouble getting DM C++ going properly. I noticed that
copying the CD over produced some read errors, and for some reason files
went missing. I corrected that, and installed the latest update as well.

Next was the AppExpert, which complained that sct3d32.dll wasn't installed
properly. The caption gave this one away, it is the ctl3d32 or dv2 variant,
which must go in the windows system folder (unlike the normal 3d which can
anywhere). Had to rename the one in the DM\BIN folder to dlo, to get rid of
the error.

That is all minor, but the resource editor just blowing up is less trivial.
I tried the rs32.new as the rs32.exe, and it complained about the
smfc30.dll. the original one just says abnormal program termination when it
opens a rc file written by the AppExpert. I tried it one some others, bit
of hit and miss. Two questions, can anybody reproduce and can anybody offer
solution. FYI, 98SE, +5GB free disk space on own partition, same config
runs the old sc++.

Your help / advice is appreciated.

Chris

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:

I find this mysterious. The only requirement I know of on DLLs is that they
reside on the PATH environment setting. I wonder if it's a 98SE thing.

Chris wrote in message <9tlfltc10s5pvdf09mfnk9ijfmmbrcu3o9 4ax.com>...
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:21:03 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

Don't use the .new file, it was a mistake to put it on, and was removed in
later CD's. What exactly did you do to the sct3d32.dll to make it work for
you?


I copied it to to the windows system dir (I use 98SE) and then renamed it
in the DM\BIN to something else than .DLL. That prevented the AppExpert
from showing an error (I did seem to work, even when it said that the dll
wasn't installed properly). It didn't stop the rs32.exe from bombing (old
and new, both crash, although it looks like the new is an unhandled
exception, and the old is trapping it. I'm currently not using the .new one
though.

Chris

Chris wrote in message <065fltgfskr7euk4hfs6012ffm7l97ito5 4ax.com>...
Hi,

I'm having some trouble getting DM C++ going properly. I noticed that
copying the CD over produced some read errors, and for some reason files
went missing. I corrected that, and installed the latest update as well.

Next was the AppExpert, which complained that sct3d32.dll wasn't






properly. The caption gave this one away, it is the ctl3d32 or dv2






which must go in the windows system folder (unlike the normal 3d which






anywhere). Had to rename the one in the DM\BIN folder to dlo, to get rid






the error.

That is all minor, but the resource editor just blowing up is less






I tried the rs32.new as the rs32.exe, and it complained about the
smfc30.dll. the original one just says abnormal program termination when






opens a rc file written by the AppExpert. I tried it one some others, bit
of hit and miss. Two questions, can anybody reproduce and can anybody






solution. FYI, 98SE, +5GB free disk space on own partition, same config
runs the old sc++.

Your help / advice is appreciated.

Chris

Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> writes:

Because this was just a faint memory, I've refreshed. The MS download
ctl3d.exe contains a help file with the following:





Because there are a number of released applications that either don't do
version checking or install CTL3D.DLL to the wrong directory, we have
created a new version of CTL3D, CTL3DV2.DLL, that applications link to with
the CTL3DV2.LIB file. This new DLL name makes it impossible for older
versions of CTL3D.DLL (version 1.x) to affect applications using
CTL3DV2.DLL. 

Important

An application's installation program must install CTL3DV2.DLL in the
Windows SYSTEM directory or, if running on a networked Windows
installation, the Windows directory. CTL3DV2.DLL must not be installed in
the application's own directory or any other directory.

CTL3DV2.DLL will not produce 3-D effects unless it is running from either
windows\system or the Windows directory. It is hoped this will encourage
developers to correctly install CTL3DV2.DLL with their applications. When
CTL3DV2.DLL is run from any other directory, it will display the following
message box:
<<
The message is a graphic, but is a messagebox that reads: "This application
uses CTL3D32.DLL, which has not been correctly installed.

The remedy is simple, move to the systemdir and prevent the one in the app
dir from loading by renaming it.

Hope that clears it, but what about the resource editor, unlike some, I
really like the IDDE, particulary for its ability to parse source code, but
I really need to edit resources ;-)

Chris

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:33:14 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

I find this mysterious. The only requirement I know of on DLLs is that they
reside on the PATH environment setting. I wonder if it's a 98SE thing.

Chris wrote in message <9tlfltc10s5pvdf09mfnk9ijfmmbrcu3o9 4ax.com>...
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:21:03 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

Don't use the .new file, it was a mistake to put it on, and was removed in
later CD's. What exactly did you do to the sct3d32.dll to make it work for
you?


I copied it to to the windows system dir (I use 98SE) and then renamed it
in the DM\BIN to something else than .DLL. That prevented the AppExpert
from showing an error (I did seem to work, even when it said that the dll
wasn't installed properly). It didn't stop the rs32.exe from bombing (old
and new, both crash, although it looks like the new is an unhandled
exception, and the old is trapping it. I'm currently not using the .new one
though.

Chris

Chris wrote in message <065fltgfskr7euk4hfs6012ffm7l97ito5 4ax.com>...
Hi,

I'm having some trouble getting DM C++ going properly. I noticed that
copying the CD over produced some read errors, and for some reason files
went missing. I corrected that, and installed the latest update as well.

Next was the AppExpert, which complained that sct3d32.dll wasn't






properly. The caption gave this one away, it is the ctl3d32 or dv2






which must go in the windows system folder (unlike the normal 3d which






anywhere). Had to rename the one in the DM\BIN folder to dlo, to get rid






the error.

That is all minor, but the resource editor just blowing up is less






I tried the rs32.new as the rs32.exe, and it complained about the
smfc30.dll. the original one just says abnormal program termination when






opens a rc file written by the AppExpert. I tried it one some others, bit
of hit and miss. Two questions, can anybody reproduce and can anybody






solution. FYI, 98SE, +5GB free disk space on own partition, same config
runs the old sc++.

Your help / advice is appreciated.

Chris

Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> writes:

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 23:10:03 +0200, Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> wrote:

Also, I've reloaded the resource editor files from SC++ 7.21, and they work
fine.

Chris

Because this was just a faint memory, I've refreshed. The MS download
ctl3d.exe contains a help file with the following:





Because there are a number of released applications that either don't do
version checking or install CTL3D.DLL to the wrong directory, we have
created a new version of CTL3D, CTL3DV2.DLL, that applications link to with
the CTL3DV2.LIB file. This new DLL name makes it impossible for older
versions of CTL3D.DLL (version 1.x) to affect applications using
CTL3DV2.DLL. 

Important

An application's installation program must install CTL3DV2.DLL in the
Windows SYSTEM directory or, if running on a networked Windows
installation, the Windows directory. CTL3DV2.DLL must not be installed in
the application's own directory or any other directory.

CTL3DV2.DLL will not produce 3-D effects unless it is running from either
windows\system or the Windows directory. It is hoped this will encourage
developers to correctly install CTL3DV2.DLL with their applications. When
CTL3DV2.DLL is run from any other directory, it will display the following
message box:
<<
The message is a graphic, but is a messagebox that reads: "This application
uses CTL3D32.DLL, which has not been correctly installed.

The remedy is simple, move to the systemdir and prevent the one in the app
dir from loading by renaming it.

Hope that clears it, but what about the resource editor, unlike some, I
really like the IDDE, particulary for its ability to parse source code, but
I really need to edit resources ;-)

Chris

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:33:14 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

I find this mysterious. The only requirement I know of on DLLs is that they
reside on the PATH environment setting. I wonder if it's a 98SE thing.

Chris wrote in message <9tlfltc10s5pvdf09mfnk9ijfmmbrcu3o9 4ax.com>...
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:21:03 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

Don't use the .new file, it was a mistake to put it on, and was removed in
later CD's. What exactly did you do to the sct3d32.dll to make it work for
you?


I copied it to to the windows system dir (I use 98SE) and then renamed it
in the DM\BIN to something else than .DLL. That prevented the AppExpert
from showing an error (I did seem to work, even when it said that the dll
wasn't installed properly). It didn't stop the rs32.exe from bombing (old
and new, both crash, although it looks like the new is an unhandled
exception, and the old is trapping it. I'm currently not using the .new one
though.

Chris

Chris wrote in message <065fltgfskr7euk4hfs6012ffm7l97ito5 4ax.com>...
Hi,

I'm having some trouble getting DM C++ going properly. I noticed that
copying the CD over produced some read errors, and for some reason files
went missing. I corrected that, and installed the latest update as well.

Next was the AppExpert, which complained that sct3d32.dll wasn't






properly. The caption gave this one away, it is the ctl3d32 or dv2






which must go in the windows system folder (unlike the normal 3d which






anywhere). Had to rename the one in the DM\BIN folder to dlo, to get rid






the error.

That is all minor, but the resource editor just blowing up is less






I tried the rs32.new as the rs32.exe, and it complained about the
smfc30.dll. the original one just says abnormal program termination when






opens a rc file written by the AppExpert. I tried it one some others, bit
of hit and miss. Two questions, can anybody reproduce and can anybody






solution. FYI, 98SE, +5GB free disk space on own partition, same config
runs the old sc++.

Your help / advice is appreciated.

Chris

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:

That is very useful information. Thanks!

Chris wrote in message ...
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 23:10:03 +0200, Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> wrote:

Also, I've reloaded the resource editor files from SC++ 7.21, and they work
fine.

Chris

Because this was just a faint memory, I've refreshed. The MS download
ctl3d.exe contains a help file with the following:





Because there are a number of released applications that either don't do
version checking or install CTL3D.DLL to the wrong directory, we have
created a new version of CTL3D, CTL3DV2.DLL, that applications link to




the CTL3DV2.LIB file. This new DLL name makes it impossible for older
versions of CTL3D.DLL (version 1.x) to affect applications using
CTL3DV2.DLL.

Important

An application's installation program must install CTL3DV2.DLL in the
Windows SYSTEM directory or, if running on a networked Windows
installation, the Windows directory. CTL3DV2.DLL must not be installed in
the application's own directory or any other directory.

CTL3DV2.DLL will not produce 3-D effects unless it is running from either
windows\system or the Windows directory. It is hoped this will encourage
developers to correctly install CTL3DV2.DLL with their applications. When
CTL3DV2.DLL is run from any other directory, it will display the following
message box:
<<
The message is a graphic, but is a messagebox that reads: "This




uses CTL3D32.DLL, which has not been correctly installed.

The remedy is simple, move to the systemdir and prevent the one in the app
dir from loading by renaming it.

Hope that clears it, but what about the resource editor, unlike some, I
really like the IDDE, particulary for its ability to parse source code,




I really need to edit resources ;-)

Chris

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:33:14 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

I find this mysterious. The only requirement I know of on DLLs is that






reside on the PATH environment setting. I wonder if it's a 98SE thing.

Chris wrote in message <9tlfltc10s5pvdf09mfnk9ijfmmbrcu3o9 4ax.com>...
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:21:03 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

Don't use the .new file, it was a mistake to put it on, and was removed










later CD's. What exactly did you do to the sct3d32.dll to make it work










you?


I copied it to to the windows system dir (I use 98SE) and then renamed








in the DM\BIN to something else than .DLL. That prevented the AppExpert
from showing an error (I did seem to work, even when it said that the








wasn't installed properly). It didn't stop the rs32.exe from bombing








and new, both crash, although it looks like the new is an unhandled
exception, and the old is trapping it. I'm currently not using the .new








though.

Chris

Chris wrote in message <065fltgfskr7euk4hfs6012ffm7l97ito5 4ax.com>...
Hi,

I'm having some trouble getting DM C++ going properly. I noticed that
copying the CD over produced some read errors, and for some reason












went missing. I corrected that, and installed the latest update as












Next was the AppExpert, which complained that sct3d32.dll wasn't






properly. The caption gave this one away, it is the ctl3d32 or dv2






which must go in the windows system folder (unlike the normal 3d which






anywhere). Had to rename the one in the DM\BIN folder to dlo, to get












of
the error.

That is all minor, but the resource editor just blowing up is less






I tried the rs32.new as the rs32.exe, and it complained about the
smfc30.dll. the original one just says abnormal program termination












it
opens a rc file written by the AppExpert. I tried it one some others,












of hit and miss. Two questions, can anybody reproduce and can anybody






solution. FYI, 98SE, +5GB free disk space on own partition, same












runs the old sc++.

Your help / advice is appreciated.

Chris

Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> writes:

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:32:43 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

Just to bring you up to date, the resource editor doesn't work by just
copying the rs32.exe and rs..32.dll's over. It also need the smfc30.dll and
smfco30.dll. 

Without those, it bombs, differently than the newer one, but still. When
you copy the smfc30.dll over on its own, the resource editor will work, but
crash on program exit !?!, which is prevented by also copying the
smfco30.dll over. 

Can this influence any other programs, using the smfc30.dll and smfco30.dll
of the SC++ 7.21 version? I'd like to that using the 7.5 versions as well,
but unfortunatly that means reinstalling, as the CD-ROM cannot read in the
'uncompressed' part of the CD. 

I also found out that using a CD-R to read the CD helps, whereas I got some
corrupted files using the CD-ROM, the CD-R did it all correctly, must laser
or speed related.

One last question, when the IDDE invoke the resource editor, it seems to
wielding some special stuff, because when I invoke the resource editor on
its own, it starts using resource.k instead of resource.h and sometimes has
trouble finding pre-defined symbols. In the past I've used the resource
editor for my Watcom C++ as well (theirs is pretty horrible), and found it
hard to make fit. The DMC++ IDDE has no trouble, so are ways to steer the
resource editor?

Regards, Chris
That is very useful information. Thanks!

Chris wrote in message ...
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 23:10:03 +0200, Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> wrote:

Also, I've reloaded the resource editor files from SC++ 7.21, and they work
fine.

Chris

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:

I don't have good answers for your questions, as I didn't write the resource
editor. It's going to get some work done on it in a couple months, and I'm
saving all your bug reports! As to reading the files off of the CD, are you
able to just xcopy the entire CD onto your hard disk? If not, and the CD is
defective, I can send you a new one.

Chris wrote in message ...
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:32:43 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

Just to bring you up to date, the resource editor doesn't work by just
copying the rs32.exe and rs..32.dll's over. It also need the smfc30.dll and
smfco30.dll.

Without those, it bombs, differently than the newer one, but still. When
you copy the smfc30.dll over on its own, the resource editor will work, but
crash on program exit !?!, which is prevented by also copying the
smfco30.dll over.

Can this influence any other programs, using the smfc30.dll and smfco30.dll
of the SC++ 7.21 version? I'd like to that using the 7.5 versions as well,
but unfortunatly that means reinstalling, as the CD-ROM cannot read in the
'uncompressed' part of the CD.

I also found out that using a CD-R to read the CD helps, whereas I got some
corrupted files using the CD-ROM, the CD-R did it all correctly, must laser
or speed related.

One last question, when the IDDE invoke the resource editor, it seems to
wielding some special stuff, because when I invoke the resource editor on
its own, it starts using resource.k instead of resource.h and sometimes has
trouble finding pre-defined symbols. In the past I've used the resource
editor for my Watcom C++ as well (theirs is pretty horrible), and found it
hard to make fit. The DMC++ IDDE has no trouble, so are ways to steer the
resource editor?

Regards, Chris
That is very useful information. Thanks!

Chris wrote in message ...
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 23:10:03 +0200, Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> wrote:

Also, I've reloaded the resource editor files from SC++ 7.21, and they






fine.

Chris

Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> writes:

On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 10:57:29 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

I don't have good answers for your questions, as I didn't write the resource
editor. It's going to get some work done on it in a couple months, and I'm
saving all your bug reports! As to reading the files off of the CD, are you
able to just xcopy the entire CD onto your hard disk? If not, and the CD is
defective, I can send you a new one.


No need to send me a new one, it seems a combo of the CD, my CD-ROM. I can
copy all files easily when I pop it into the Plextor CD-R drive. But thanks
for the offer.

Chris

Chris wrote in message ...
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:32:43 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

Just to bring you up to date, the resource editor doesn't work by just
copying the rs32.exe and rs..32.dll's over. It also need the smfc30.dll and
smfco30.dll.

Without those, it bombs, differently than the newer one, but still. When
you copy the smfc30.dll over on its own, the resource editor will work, but
crash on program exit !?!, which is prevented by also copying the
smfco30.dll over.

Can this influence any other programs, using the smfc30.dll and smfco30.dll
of the SC++ 7.21 version? I'd like to that using the 7.5 versions as well,
but unfortunatly that means reinstalling, as the CD-ROM cannot read in the
'uncompressed' part of the CD.

I also found out that using a CD-R to read the CD helps, whereas I got some
corrupted files using the CD-ROM, the CD-R did it all correctly, must laser
or speed related.

One last question, when the IDDE invoke the resource editor, it seems to
wielding some special stuff, because when I invoke the resource editor on
its own, it starts using resource.k instead of resource.h and sometimes has
trouble finding pre-defined symbols. In the past I've used the resource
editor for my Watcom C++ as well (theirs is pretty horrible), and found it
hard to make fit. The DMC++ IDDE has no trouble, so are ways to steer the
resource editor?

Regards, Chris
That is very useful information. Thanks!

Chris wrote in message ...
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 23:10:03 +0200, Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> wrote:

Also, I've reloaded the resource editor files from SC++ 7.21, and they






fine.

Chris

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:

I tried hard NOT to install anything in the system directories, and then MS
does this :-(

Thanks for the heads up on it.

-Walter

Chris wrote in message ...
Because this was just a faint memory, I've refreshed. The MS download
ctl3d.exe contains a help file with the following:





Because there are a number of released applications that either don't do
version checking or install CTL3D.DLL to the wrong directory, we have
created a new version of CTL3D, CTL3DV2.DLL, that applications link to with
the CTL3DV2.LIB file. This new DLL name makes it impossible for older
versions of CTL3D.DLL (version 1.x) to affect applications using
CTL3DV2.DLL.

Important

An application's installation program must install CTL3DV2.DLL in the
Windows SYSTEM directory or, if running on a networked Windows
installation, the Windows directory. CTL3DV2.DLL must not be installed in
the application's own directory or any other directory.

CTL3DV2.DLL will not produce 3-D effects unless it is running from either
windows\system or the Windows directory. It is hoped this will encourage
developers to correctly install CTL3DV2.DLL with their applications. When
CTL3DV2.DLL is run from any other directory, it will display the following
message box:
<<
The message is a graphic, but is a messagebox that reads: "This application
uses CTL3D32.DLL, which has not been correctly installed.

The remedy is simple, move to the systemdir and prevent the one in the app
dir from loading by renaming it.

Hope that clears it, but what about the resource editor, unlike some, I
really like the IDDE, particulary for its ability to parse source code, but
I really need to edit resources ;-)

Chris

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:33:14 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

I find this mysterious. The only requirement I know of on DLLs is that




reside on the PATH environment setting. I wonder if it's a 98SE thing.

Chris wrote in message <9tlfltc10s5pvdf09mfnk9ijfmmbrcu3o9 4ax.com>...
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:21:03 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

Don't use the .new file, it was a mistake to put it on, and was removed








later CD's. What exactly did you do to the sct3d32.dll to make it work








you?


I copied it to to the windows system dir (I use 98SE) and then renamed it
in the DM\BIN to something else than .DLL. That prevented the AppExpert
from showing an error (I did seem to work, even when it said that the dll
wasn't installed properly). It didn't stop the rs32.exe from bombing (old
and new, both crash, although it looks like the new is an unhandled
exception, and the old is trapping it. I'm currently not using the .new






though.

Chris

Chris wrote in message <065fltgfskr7euk4hfs6012ffm7l97ito5 4ax.com>...
Hi,

I'm having some trouble getting DM C++ going properly. I noticed that
copying the CD over produced some read errors, and for some reason










went missing. I corrected that, and installed the latest update as










Next was the AppExpert, which complained that sct3d32.dll wasn't






properly. The caption gave this one away, it is the ctl3d32 or dv2






which must go in the windows system folder (unlike the normal 3d which






anywhere). Had to rename the one in the DM\BIN folder to dlo, to get










of
the error.

That is all minor, but the resource editor just blowing up is less






I tried the rs32.new as the rs32.exe, and it complained about the
smfc30.dll. the original one just says abnormal program termination










it
opens a rc file written by the AppExpert. I tried it one some others,










of hit and miss. Two questions, can anybody reproduce and can anybody






solution. FYI, 98SE, +5GB free disk space on own partition, same config
runs the old sc++.

Your help / advice is appreciated.

Chris

Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> writes:

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:33:40 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

I suppose you could use CTL3D, which is allowed in the program dir, using
the same naming prefix, it is the DLL checking its own location.

Chris

I tried hard NOT to install anything in the system directories, and then MS
does this :-(

Thanks for the heads up on it.

-Walter

Chris wrote in message ...
Because this was just a faint memory, I've refreshed. The MS download
ctl3d.exe contains a help file with the following:





Because there are a number of released applications that either don't do
version checking or install CTL3D.DLL to the wrong directory, we have
created a new version of CTL3D, CTL3DV2.DLL, that applications link to with
the CTL3DV2.LIB file. This new DLL name makes it impossible for older
versions of CTL3D.DLL (version 1.x) to affect applications using
CTL3DV2.DLL.

Important

An application's installation program must install CTL3DV2.DLL in the
Windows SYSTEM directory or, if running on a networked Windows
installation, the Windows directory. CTL3DV2.DLL must not be installed in
the application's own directory or any other directory.

CTL3DV2.DLL will not produce 3-D effects unless it is running from either
windows\system or the Windows directory. It is hoped this will encourage
developers to correctly install CTL3DV2.DLL with their applications. When
CTL3DV2.DLL is run from any other directory, it will display the following
message box:
<<
The message is a graphic, but is a messagebox that reads: "This application
uses CTL3D32.DLL, which has not been correctly installed.

The remedy is simple, move to the systemdir and prevent the one in the app
dir from loading by renaming it.

Hope that clears it, but what about the resource editor, unlike some, I
really like the IDDE, particulary for its ability to parse source code, but
I really need to edit resources ;-)

Chris

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:33:14 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

I find this mysterious. The only requirement I know of on DLLs is that




reside on the PATH environment setting. I wonder if it's a 98SE thing.

Chris wrote in message <9tlfltc10s5pvdf09mfnk9ijfmmbrcu3o9 4ax.com>...
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:21:03 -0700, "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>
wrote:

Don't use the .new file, it was a mistake to put it on, and was removed








later CD's. What exactly did you do to the sct3d32.dll to make it work








you?


I copied it to to the windows system dir (I use 98SE) and then renamed it
in the DM\BIN to something else than .DLL. That prevented the AppExpert
from showing an error (I did seem to work, even when it said that the dll
wasn't installed properly). It didn't stop the rs32.exe from bombing (old
and new, both crash, although it looks like the new is an unhandled
exception, and the old is trapping it. I'm currently not using the .new






though.

Chris

Chris wrote in message <065fltgfskr7euk4hfs6012ffm7l97ito5 4ax.com>...
Hi,

I'm having some trouble getting DM C++ going properly. I noticed that
copying the CD over produced some read errors, and for some reason










went missing. I corrected that, and installed the latest update as










Next was the AppExpert, which complained that sct3d32.dll wasn't






properly. The caption gave this one away, it is the ctl3d32 or dv2






which must go in the windows system folder (unlike the normal 3d which






anywhere). Had to rename the one in the DM\BIN folder to dlo, to get










of
the error.

That is all minor, but the resource editor just blowing up is less






I tried the rs32.new as the rs32.exe, and it complained about the
smfc30.dll. the original one just says abnormal program termination










it
opens a rc file written by the AppExpert. I tried it one some others,










of hit and miss. Two questions, can anybody reproduce and can anybody






solution. FYI, 98SE, +5GB free disk space on own partition, same config
runs the old sc++.

Your help / advice is appreciated.

Chris