D - new D newsgroups

Walter (20/20) Apr 26 2004 It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here propaga...

Carlos Santander B. (35/35) Apr 26 2004 "Walter" wrote in message

Carlos Santander B. (9/9) Apr 26 2004 "Carlos Santander B." wrote in message

Jan Knepper (10/14) Apr 26 2004 The articles are convertable, it is just a LOT of work.
Matthew (4/24) Apr 26 2004 Why does the original D have to die (or be ignored)? I don't get it. It ...

Walter (11/13) Apr 26 2004 seems

AJ (7/20) Nov 21 2009 Walter D: going for volume marketing and sheeple appeal? And what about

Marc (626/630) Apr 27 2004 Ok, half-way there.

Brad Anderson (6/54) Apr 27 2004 Marc,

Marc (4/7) Apr 27 2004 Yes.

Brad Anderson (6/16) Apr 27 2004 I think leaving them is probably better, because you can then track the

AJ (9/11) Nov 21 2009 Ah, mass-marketing. A sign of a dead company. Rember Borland? Walter, su...

AJ (2/13) Nov 21 2009 I'm serious this time: no more consulting to Mr. D.

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here propagated
is they have to be renamed. "D" just wasn't unique enough <g>. But renaming
the D newsgroup will screw up a lot of things. So, two new newsgroups have
been created:

digitalmars.D
digitalmars.D.bugs

In digitalmars.D.bugs should go bug reports and followups to them. Please
don't put in here questions about D, or proposed new features, etc. It
should be bug reports only, which will make it much easier for people to
peruse to see if they are experiencing a reported bug or not.

In digitalmars.D should go everything else about D that formerly went into
the D newsgroup.

For ongoing existing threads in the D newsgroup, continue posting in D but
please just add digitalmars.D to the newsgroup list it will be posted to.

The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g> that
would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.

Thanks,
-Walter

Apr 26 2004

"Carlos Santander B." <carlos8294 msn.com> writes:

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message
news:c6k7pr$20qs$1 digitaldaemon.com
| It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here
propagated
| is they have to be renamed. "D" just wasn't unique enough <g>. But
renaming
| the D newsgroup will screw up a lot of things. So, two new newsgroups have
| been created:
|
| digitalmars.D
| digitalmars.D.bugs
|
| In digitalmars.D.bugs should go bug reports and followups to them. Please
| don't put in here questions about D, or proposed new features, etc. It
| should be bug reports only, which will make it much easier for people to
| peruse to see if they are experiencing a reported bug or not.
|
| In digitalmars.D should go everything else about D that formerly went into
| the D newsgroup.
|
| For ongoing existing threads in the D newsgroup, continue posting in D but
| please just add digitalmars.D to the newsgroup list it will be posted to.
|
| The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
| software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g>
that
| would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
| the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.
|
| Thanks,
| -Walter

I guess you and Jan are the ones to thank.
Hey! First one to post here! Yay!

-----------------------
Carlos Santander Bernal

Apr 26 2004

"Carlos Santander B." <carlos8294 msn.com> writes:

"Carlos Santander B." <carlos8294 msn.com> wrote in message
news:c6k8pj$22f4$1 digitaldaemon.com
|
| I guess you and Jan are the ones to thank.
| Hey! First one to post here! Yay!
|

... besides Walter and Jan, that is.

-----------------------
Carlos Santander Bernal

Apr 26 2004

Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:

Walter wrote:
 The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
 software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g> that
 would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
 the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.

The articles are convertable, it is just a LOT of work.
When Linda is in Vegas/Mexico by the end of next month I might get to it.

Thanks!
Jan


-- 
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper

But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org

Apr 26 2004

"Matthew" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> writes:

Why does the original D have to die (or be ignored)? I don't get it. It seems
like a mistake to me.


"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message
news:c6k7pr$20qs$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here propagated
 is they have to be renamed. "D" just wasn't unique enough <g>. But renaming
 the D newsgroup will screw up a lot of things. So, two new newsgroups have
 been created:

 digitalmars.D
 digitalmars.D.bugs

 In digitalmars.D.bugs should go bug reports and followups to them. Please
 don't put in here questions about D, or proposed new features, etc. It
 should be bug reports only, which will make it much easier for people to
 peruse to see if they are experiencing a reported bug or not.

 In digitalmars.D should go everything else about D that formerly went into
 the D newsgroup.

 For ongoing existing threads in the D newsgroup, continue posting in D but
 please just add digitalmars.D to the newsgroup list it will be posted to.

 The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
 software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g> that
 would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
 the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.

 Thanks,
 -Walter

Apr 26 2004

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Matthew" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message
news:c6kf86$2d9r$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Why does the original D have to die (or be ignored)? I don't get it. It

seems
 like a mistake to me.

Because with a one letter name for the forum, it will never get propagated
and (as far as I can tell) google will not index it. It's normal practice in
the industry to prefix the company name to private newsgroups, and then
sometimes others will pick them up and propagate them. Some examples are:

microsoft.*
borland.*
openwatcom.*

etc. Basically, it's being a good news citizen to name them this way.

Apr 26 2004

"AJ" <aj nospam.net> writes:

Walter wrote:
 "Matthew" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message
 news:c6kf86$2d9r$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Why does the original D have to die (or be ignored)? I don't get it.
 It seems like a mistake to me.

 Because with a one letter name for the forum, it will never get
 propagated and (as far as I can tell) google will not index it. It's
 normal practice in the industry to prefix the company name to private
 newsgroups, and then sometimes others will pick them up and propagate
 them. Some examples are:

 microsoft.*
 borland.*
 openwatcom.*

 etc. Basically, it's being a good news citizen to name them this way.

Walter D: going for volume marketing and sheeple appeal? And what about 
those wayyyy over-priced conferences of yours? Would do the participants do 
better with my suggestions for best compiler books? Or giving you boku 
money? What were you thinking dude? How important do you think you are? 
Don't disquise your need as value when it is a charity event. Get some 
humility, bitch.

Nov 21 2009

"Marc" <mcote333 sympatico.ca> writes:

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote

 The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
 software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g>

that
 would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
 the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.

Ok,  half-way there.

What is done:

    Downlaoded  28647  messages
    Verified that there is no duplicates Message-ID
    each message converted to 1 .eml file
        (using dbxconv, found on the net)
    each eml file converted to 1 html file
        (using eml2html.c, which i created for this task)

To do:

    linking them
    producing an index by date, thread, ...
    use a style sheet for the presentation
    better presentation (Color, Font, ...)
    What to do with attachements
    3 files cannot be opened - to be fixed
    besides From, Date and Subject, want to use
        other fields ?

Walter: I took the liberty to reuse your logo just keep
a look similar to your site.

The program ( eml2html.c  ) is GNU

Please give your comments and ideas.

Who will hosts the 30000 html files ?

Marc




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Apr 27 2004

Brad Anderson <brad sankaty.dot.com> writes:

Marc wrote:
 "Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote
 
 
The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g>

 
 that
 
would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.

 
 
 Ok,  half-way there.
 

Marc,

Sounds good.  Also, is there a chance that you could slightly modify the 
  converter tool so that email addresses could be mangled a bit so that 
spam-bots don't come through and harvest all of the addresses?

BA


 What is done:
 
     Downlaoded  28647  messages
     Verified that there is no duplicates Message-ID
     each message converted to 1 .eml file
         (using dbxconv, found on the net)
     each eml file converted to 1 html file
         (using eml2html.c, which i created for this task)
 
 To do:
 
     linking them
     producing an index by date, thread, ...
     use a style sheet for the presentation
     better presentation (Color, Font, ...)
     What to do with attachements
     3 files cannot be opened - to be fixed
     besides From, Date and Subject, want to use
         other fields ?
 
 Walter: I took the liberty to reuse your logo just keep
 a look similar to your site.
 
 The program ( eml2html.c  ) is GNU
 
 Please give your comments and ideas.
 
 Who will hosts the 30000 html files ?
 
 Marc

Apr 27 2004

"Marc" <mcote333 sympatico.ca> writes:

 Sounds good.  Also, is there a chance that you could slightly modify the
   converter tool so that email addresses could be mangled a bit so that
 spam-bots don't come through and harvest all of the addresses?

Yes.

Is    "brad[AT]sankaty{DOT}dot{DOT}com" mangled enough ?

Another way is to simply removed all email adresses.

Marc

Apr 27 2004

Brad Anderson <brad dsource.dot.org> writes:

Marc wrote:
Sounds good.  Also, is there a chance that you could slightly modify the
  converter tool so that email addresses could be mangled a bit so that
spam-bots don't come through and harvest all of the addresses?

 
 
 Yes.
 
 Is    "brad[AT]sankaty{DOT}dot{DOT}com" mangled enough ?

That should be fine.  I already did a bit of mangling, but others haven't.

 Another way is to simply removed all email adresses.

I think leaving them is probably better, because you can then track the 
person down if you want to ask them a question about the post.  Make sense?


Thanks for this effort !!

BA

Apr 27 2004

"AJ" <aj nospam.net> writes:

Walter wrote:

 It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here
 propagated is they have to be renamed.

Ah, mass-marketing. A sign of a dead company. Rember Borland? Walter, surely 
you can relate. Borland circa 1993. Continued the downhill for 2 decades. 
Are you on the same path?

OK, no more consulting for D. That's all I have to say. Good luck. Don't 
kill yourself or anyone else. When you are ready to shut down this IT 
project gone awry, you can throw me a million dollars and show you how to 
make money from the ashes.

(I am sooo bad!!!)

Nov 21 2009

"AJ" <aj nospam.net> writes:

AJ wrote:
 Walter wrote:

 It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here
 propagated is they have to be renamed.

 Ah, mass-marketing. A sign of a dead company. Rember Borland? Walter,
 surely you can relate. Borland circa 1993. Continued the downhill for
 2 decades. Are you on the same path?

 OK, no more consulting for D. That's all I have to say. Good luck.
 Don't kill yourself or anyone else. When you are ready to shut down
 this IT project gone awry, you can throw me a million dollars and
 show you how to make money from the ashes.

 (I am sooo bad!!!)

I'm serious this time: no more consulting to Mr. D.

Nov 21 2009

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