• Brian Hay (7/7) Dec 07 2010 There's a JavaScript arms race going on (as I'm sure many of you are
• Dejan Lekic (2/2) Jun 29 2011 At the moment I do not think it is possible for DMDScript to compete. It...
• Brad Cantrell (6/6) Jul 02 2011 node.js is going to win, it uses Google's V8, but its really not importa...
• Daniel (19/19) Dec 23 2011 Brad,
• Trevor Parscal (15/17) Feb 14 2012 Maybe more like a jit for D? I use JavaScript a lot, and love it
• Rob T (2/2) Sep 27 2012 Vibe,d is the D version of node.js, check it out here ...

Brian Hay <bhay construct3d.com> writes:

There's a JavaScript arms race going on (as I'm sure many of you are 
aware). The competing JS engines of the major browsers are leap-frogging 
each other in performance every few months it seems.

http://www.conceivablytech.com/4472/products/chrome-10-posts-huge-performance-jump/

It would be so cool (and a huge showcase for the D Programming Language) 
if DMDScript was in that performance race and beating the big guns.

Possible?

Dejan Lekic <dejan.lekic tiscali.co.uk> writes:

At the moment I do not think it is possible for DMDScript to compete. It 
needs a major rewrite.

Brad Cantrell <fraksworld hotmail.com> writes:

node.js is going to win, it uses Google's V8, but its really not important which
JS compiler is uses, it could use any. node.js is going to become a replacement
for PHP and will also be Javascript's version of what Perl's CPAN, Ruby gems and
Python eggs do. Microsoft is contracting out to Joyent to port node.js to
windows,
this should bring about a big jump in Javascripts use as a multipurpose
scripting
language.

Daniel <dan.lewis.v2.0 gmail.com> writes:

Brad,

I've been a long long time fan of JavaScript, and have done alot with
programming
the language and discussing it's features and programming.

I like its C notation, library simplicity and its prototypical inheritance
model.

JavaScript is terrible with Strings, almost as bad as VB.  I think this is a
very
serious limitation as processors keep getting better at numbers and never
improve
on strings, making them a major bottleneck.  I really like D's slice model.

The language's dual meaning for the '+' operator is also a major problem
preventing some rather serious optimizations; since we can't predict what needs
to
be done with 'a+b' in code, we can't compile it without including branching for
types AND type coercion.

Also, without the '+' concat operator, you could literally transcribe all the
math
operators down to 64-bit double math operations in machine code, as long as you
could guarantee the variable names and/or properties didn't move without you
noticing.

Also, the Date library is horrid.

Further, JavaScript needs native parallelization, not some tack on like Node.js;
and a standard file interface that hides the FS details and also allows a
dynamic
equivalent to import.

So what really needs to be out there, is a hybrid of Lua, V8, and D.

"Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal gmail.com> writes:

On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 18:19:49 UTC, Daniel wrote:
 So what really needs to be out there, is a hybrid of Lua, V8, 
 and D.

Maybe more like a jit for D? I use JavaScript a lot, and love it 
for what it is (and forgive it for what it's not). That said, D 
has the potential to be a major web language, but needs to have a 
Node.js like web server framework that can compile and cache code 
on the fly.

Even just patching in a way to write D modules for Node.js could 
be brilliant. Writing C/C++ extensions for PHP was always a 
nightmare and even though over time there ended up being a really 
large number of extensions available, most people didn't utilize 
that functionality for their own projects. D could (should) be 
the go-to serious system-level problem solving tool for web 
applications, but it needs some integration work so web 
developers don't have to start from scratch to build an app.

- Trevor

"Rob T" <rob ucora.com> writes:

Vibe,d is the D version of node.js, check it out here ...
http://vibed.org/