D - The D Journal - first issue ...
- Matthew Wilson (35/35) Aug 06 2002 Fellow D-ers
- anderson (21/56) Aug 06 2002 Speaking for myself, I've just been too busy (and will for the rest of t...
- anderson (13/83) Aug 07 2002 D
- Walter (3/3) Aug 07 2002 I like option 2. Starting out modestly is not a bad way at all to start....
- Alix Pexton (8/8) Aug 14 2002 Well, I'm back in my office now after a long and quite productive vacati...
- Walter (6/8) Aug 14 2002 vacation,
- Toyotomi (8/12) Aug 17 2002 I think many people are just waiting...
Fellow D-ers We had a great initial response of enthusiasm for The D Journal in June/July, but unfortunately have had very few submissions, which leaves our proposed initial September issue release looking more than a little optimistic. I can imagine four reasons for the lack of submissions: 1. Nobody is interested. 2. Everyone is very busy 3. D itself is too new 4. People are not yet confident in D to want to put pen to paper Given the enthusiasm that was observed when the journal was mentioned, I don't think that case 1 applies. I think 2, 3 and 4 together probably encapsulate the issue. For myself, I have been too busy over the last two months to put my money where my mouth is and write a D article (I have to confess I haven't even been able to do much D during that time). I should mention that we've had quite a lot of Notes ideas from a couple of people, and a number of people have offered to do technical editing, just no article proposals. :( Therefore I think there are three possible actions: 1. Scrap the idea 2. Put out a modest initial journal soon, perhaps with some Tech Notes, a Word From Walter, and any other contributions that we can strong arm a maleable few into giving. 3. Wait until D 1.0 has been released, presuming that the stability we will get from that version will lend itself to a writing spree. My preference is 3, assuming 1.0 is not too far into the future. I certainly don't think we should scrap the idea - I think the idea was good, just, it seems, a little early. I'd love to hear all your thoughts on this. There's certainly no point in continuing without interested readers _and_ writers. Thanks Matthew P.S. If any of you simply MUST see some D in print, I have an article November or December's issue of C/C++ User's Journal (www.cuj.com). Hopefully this can be another small step in spreading the word ...
Aug 06 2002
Speaking for myself, I've just been too busy (and will for the rest of the year). I have always thought that August was very optimistic. I think the D journal should be given at around 6 months with constant newsgroup reminders and nags. Also I think after the first one, new additions should come out every two (or more) months (at least to begin with). The article I was thinking of writting myself was a "porting from C++ to D" article. And to write it as a port one of my medium sized programs over. As I said, I've have no time. (Infact I'm working on 4 assignments of my 18 assignments, at the same time as taking to group members over the phone at this very moment.) Also getting volunteers is always a problem with these things, especially on-line. But, I'm a realist. PS - I would still really like to see a D Jounal, but it's going to be a battle. "Matthew Wilson" <matthew thedjournal.com> wrote in message news:aiq6gs$ij0$1 digitaldaemon.com...Fellow D-ers We had a great initial response of enthusiasm for The D Journal in June/July, but unfortunately have had very few submissions, which leavesourproposed initial September issue release looking more than a little optimistic. I can imagine four reasons for the lack of submissions: 1. Nobody is interested. 2. Everyone is very busy 3. D itself is too new 4. People are not yet confident in D to want to put pen to paper Given the enthusiasm that was observed when the journal was mentioned, I don't think that case 1 applies. I think 2, 3 and 4 together probably encapsulate the issue. For myself, I have been too busy over the last two months to put my money where my mouth is and write a D article (I have to confess I haven't even been able to do much D during that time). I should mention that we've had quite a lot of Notes ideas from a couple of people, and a number of people have offered to do technical editing, just noarticleproposals. :( Therefore I think there are three possible actions: 1. Scrap the idea 2. Put out a modest initial journal soon, perhaps with some Tech Notes, a Word From Walter, and any other contributions that we can strong arm a maleable few into giving. 3. Wait until D 1.0 has been released, presuming that the stability wewillget from that version will lend itself to a writing spree. My preference is 3, assuming 1.0 is not too far into the future. Icertainlydon't think we should scrap the idea - I think the idea was good, just, it seems, a little early. I'd love to hear all your thoughts on this. There's certainly no point in continuing without interested readers _and_ writers. Thanks Matthew P.S. If any of you simply MUST see some D in print, I have an article November or December's issue of C/C++ User's Journal (www.cuj.com). Hopefully this can be another small step in spreading the word ...
Aug 06 2002
"anderson" <anderson firestar.com.au> wrote in message news:aiq8oc$ks5$1 digitaldaemon.com...Speaking for myself, I've just been too busy (and will for the rest of the year). I have always thought that August was very optimistic. I think theDjournal should be given at around 6 months with constant newsgroupremindersand nags. Also I think after the first one, new additions should come out every two (or more) months (at least to begin with). The article I was thinking of writting myself was a "porting from C++ toD"article. And to write it as I port one of my medium sized programs over.AsI said, I've have no time. (Infact I'm working on 4 assignments of my 18 assignments, at the same time as taking to group members over the phone at this very moment.) Also getting volunteers is always a problem with these things, especially on-line. But, I'm a realist. PS - I would still really like to see a D Jounal, but it's going to be a battle. "Matthew Wilson" <matthew thedjournal.com> wrote in message news:aiq6gs$ij0$1 digitaldaemon.com...twoFellow D-ers We had a great initial response of enthusiasm for The D Journal in June/July, but unfortunately have had very few submissions, which leavesourproposed initial September issue release looking more than a little optimistic. I can imagine four reasons for the lack of submissions: 1. Nobody is interested. 2. Everyone is very busy 3. D itself is too new 4. People are not yet confident in D to want to put pen to paper Given the enthusiasm that was observed when the journal was mentioned, I don't think that case 1 applies. I think 2, 3 and 4 together probably encapsulate the issue. For myself, I have been too busy over the lasttomonths to put my money where my mouth is and write a D article (I haveshouldconfess I haven't even been able to do much D during that time). Ipeople,mention that we've had quite a lot of Notes ideas from a couple ofaand a number of people have offered to do technical editing, just noarticleproposals. :( Therefore I think there are three possible actions: 1. Scrap the idea 2. Put out a modest initial journal soon, perhaps with some Tech Notes,itWord From Walter, and any other contributions that we can strong arm a maleable few into giving. 3. Wait until D 1.0 has been released, presuming that the stability wewillget from that version will lend itself to a writing spree. My preference is 3, assuming 1.0 is not too far into the future. Icertainlydon't think we should scrap the idea - I think the idea was good, just,inseems, a little early. I'd love to hear all your thoughts on this. There's certainly no pointcontinuing without interested readers _and_ writers. Thanks Matthew P.S. If any of you simply MUST see some D in print, I have an article November or December's issue of C/C++ User's Journal (www.cuj.com). Hopefully this can be another small step in spreading the word ...
Aug 07 2002
I like option 2. Starting out modestly is not a bad way at all to start. I suppose it's like starting an exercise program - going suddenly from couch potato to 3 hours a day in the gym just never works <g>.
Aug 07 2002
Well, I'm back in my office now after a long and quite productive vacation, ready to serve the journal once more... -- Alix Pexton... Webmaster, The D Journal web: www.thedjournal.com email:webmaster thedjournal.com "The D journal, a work in progress..."
Aug 14 2002
"Alix Pexton" <Alix seven-point-star.co.uk> wrote in message news:01c2439d$95bfd9e0$0dba01d5 jpswm...Well, I'm back in my office now after a long and quite productivevacation,ready to serve the journal once more...I learned long ago to never judge any computer related endeavor by what happens in August - nothing ever happens in August because everyone is on vacation! Anyhow, hope you had a good time!
Aug 14 2002
On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:13:42 +1000, "Matthew Wilson" <matthew thedjournal.com> wrote:1. Nobody is interested. 2. Everyone is very busy 3. D itself is too new 4. People are not yet confident in D to want to put pen to paperI think many people are just waiting... I don't think people feel they can sit down and start using D in real world applications... So they just wait. They may have also been burned by hope-inducing languages before. ;-p
Aug 17 2002