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reply Sean Kelly <sean ffwd.cx> writes:
Just a few quick things I thought of while reading up on Phobos...

The naming convention doesn't seem particularly consistent.  Some 
functions use mixed case and others don't.  I assume the ones that don't 
are direct forwards to C library calls, but the difference is still a 
tad jarring.  I imagine it's too late to do anything about this?

Where is std.conv.toFloat?  It seems odd that I have to resort to 
streams just to convert to a floating point value.  Is there a reason 
for this?

Containers.  There aren't any.

I'll admit I was gearing up to find time to work on some perks for 
Phobos but I think I was being overly ambitious.  The library needs more 
core functionality first.  I've always liked the standard C++ library, 
but perhaps there's something better out there?  I'd like to work a bit 
on standard containers, algorithms, that kind of thing, which would mean 
establishing some standards (like how everything in the C++ world 
revolves around iterators).  I saw the "D standard library group 
proposal," where does that stand?


Sean
Feb 10 2004
next sibling parent Vathix <vathix dprogramming.com> writes:
Sean Kelly wrote:


 Just a few quick things I thought of while reading up on Phobos...
 
 The naming convention doesn't seem particularly consistent.  Some 
 functions use mixed case and others don't.  I assume the ones that don't 
 are direct forwards to C library calls, but the difference is still a 
 tad jarring.  I imagine it's too late to do anything about this?


I agree. Although it's nice to use tolower, it should be toLower, etc.



 Where is std.conv.toFloat?  It seems odd that I have to resort to 
 streams just to convert to a floating point value.  Is there a reason 
 for this?


I think it just hasn't been made yet.



 Containers.  There aren't any.
 
 I'll admit I was gearing up to find time to work on some perks for 
 Phobos but I think I was being overly ambitious.  The library needs more 
 core functionality first.  I've always liked the standard C++ library, 
 but perhaps there's something better out there?  I'd like to work a bit 
 on standard containers, algorithms, that kind of thing, which would mean 
 establishing some standards (like how everything in the C++ world 
 revolves around iterators).  I saw the "D standard library group 
 proposal," where does that stand?
 


-- 
Christopher E. Miller
www.dprogramming.com
Feb 10 2004
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Sam McCall <tunah.d tunah.net> writes:
Sean Kelly wrote:

 Containers.  There aren't any.


I'm working on a port of java collections, but interfaces and abstract 
classes have serious issues atm :(
Feb 10 2004
parent reply Brad Anderson <brad sankaty.dot.com> writes:
Is a work-around to not have the class be abstract?  Will it behave properly? 
i.e inherit.  I'm running into this on the SWT port to D.


public abstract class Widget {}

public abstract class Drawable {}

public abstract class Control : Widget, Drawable {}

public class Button : Control {}


I think this is also causing some forward reference errors.

Brad




Sam McCall wrote:

 Sean Kelly wrote:
 

 Containers.  There aren't any.


 
 I'm working on a port of java collections, but interfaces and abstract 
 classes have serious issues atm :(
Feb 10 2004
parent reply Ilya Minkov <minkov cs.tum.edu> writes:
Don't write abstract on them. They become abstract automatically, but 
have right semantics.

You cannot inherit from 2 classes, only from a class and a number of 
interfaces. I think there was something like a special case for 
inheritance from a template.

-eye

Brad Anderson wrote:

 Is a work-around to not have the class be abstract?  Will it behave 
 properly? i.e inherit.  I'm running into this on the SWT port to D.
 
 
 public abstract class Widget {}
 
 public abstract class Drawable {}
 
 public abstract class Control : Widget, Drawable {}
 
 public class Button : Control {}
 
 
 I think this is also causing some forward reference errors.
 
 Brad
Feb 10 2004
next sibling parent Brad Anderson <brad sankaty.dot.com> writes:
Okay, that was what I thought, but Drawable was an interface until the compiler 
complained about the function bodies being implemented:

<code>

public interface Drawable {

private import dwt.graphics.gcdata;

public int internal_new_GC (GCData data) {}

</code>

Compiler:
function internal_new_GC function body is not abstract in interface Drawable



Ilya Minkov wrote:


 Don't write abstract on them. They become abstract automatically, but 
 have right semantics.
 
 You cannot inherit from 2 classes, only from a class and a number of 
 interfaces. I think there was something like a special case for 
 inheritance from a template.
 
 -eye
 
 Brad Anderson wrote:
 

 Is a work-around to not have the class be abstract?  Will it behave 
 properly? i.e inherit.  I'm running into this on the SWT port to D.


 public abstract class Widget {}

 public abstract class Drawable {}

 public abstract class Control : Widget, Drawable {}

 public class Button : Control {}


 I think this is also causing some forward reference errors.

 Brad
Feb 10 2004
prev sibling parent Sam McCall <tunah.d tunah.net> writes:
Ilya Minkov wrote:


 Don't write abstract on them. They become abstract automatically, but 
 have right semantics.


Hmm, so is there anywhere we should use the abstract keyword?
This code still crashes.

interface Interface(T) {
	void foo();
}

class Abstract(T) : Interface!(T) {
	void foo();
}

class Concrete(T) : Abstract!(T) {
	void foo() {}
}

class Sub(T) : Concrete!(T) {
}

int main() {
	new Sub!(Object)();
	return 0;
}
Feb 10 2004
prev sibling parent "Matthew" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> writes:
"Sean Kelly" <sean ffwd.cx> wrote in message
news:c0bfs4$29o0$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 Just a few quick things I thought of while reading up on Phobos...

 The naming convention doesn't seem particularly consistent.  Some
 functions use mixed case and others don't.  I assume the ones that don't
 are direct forwards to C library calls, but the difference is still a
 tad jarring.  I imagine it's too late to do anything about this?


Not too late at all. In fact, I'll be rewriting some of them in the next few
weeks


 Where is std.conv.toFloat?  It seems odd that I have to resort to
 streams just to convert to a floating point value.  Is there a reason
 for this?

 Containers.  There aren't any.

 I'll admit I was gearing up to find time to work on some perks for
 Phobos but I think I was being overly ambitious.  The library needs more
 core functionality first.  I've always liked the standard C++ library,
 but perhaps there's something better out there?  I'd like to work a bit
 on standard containers, algorithms, that kind of thing, which would mean
 establishing some standards (like how everything in the C++ world
 revolves around iterators).  I saw the "D standard library group
 proposal," where does that stand?


I don't think anything's happened with the DSLG. We're still waiting to hear
from Walter on that one.

As for containers, please fire away. I'll be working on a DTL with Walter in
March, but we welcome the competition. If we've two or three competing
libraries, we stand a much better chance of getting something really good.

Cheers

Matthew
Feb 10 2004